Everything posted by Dick Allen
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Dunn, Thornton, AJ, Rios, Beckham, Oz, KW
QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 7, 2011 -> 09:33 AM) AJ and Rios were pretty predictable, Dunn and Matt have to be defined as shocking as any players struggles so far this season though, not just that they've been bad but how terrible they've been. Since the AS break last year Dunn is 66-325 .203 batting average with 19 homers 48 rbi 56 walks 124 k's. I still think he'll be OK, but there's going to be a point you can't consider it just a slump anymore.
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Dunn, Thornton, AJ, Rios, Beckham, Oz, KW
The Sox need offense and Viciedo is on fire in Charlotte. Its time to make a move.
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Dunn, Thornton, AJ, Rios, Beckham, Oz, KW
QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 7, 2011 -> 08:27 AM) How is this surprising? We see this just about every year. Not this long. The scary thing is even if they snapped out of it tonight, chances are, they are all going to go cold again at some point.
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Dunn, Thornton, AJ, Rios, Beckham, Oz, KW
QUOTE (fathom @ May 7, 2011 -> 07:54 AM) If you noticed, Thornton was down in the zone in the 9th inning with a lot of his pitches. He was clearly gassed, as he was able to stay up in the zone with a few more mph in the 8th inning. It's comical that he was left in that long. Oh, and Ozzie, why not use Crain instead of Santos then? I really think Ozzie wouldn't mind being fired. I've really never thought that before, but he seems almost resigned to the White Sox fate. Where is his annual speech about how he's was close to walking away. He doesn't want to quit because he wouldn't get the cash. As for the Sox, for a team that is supposedly "all in" they seem to have great faith in all their personnel not performing. Its getting to the point where if things aren't changing they need to do something. Even if they start playing better, which seems like it would be impossible not to happen, an entire summer of meaningless baseball played before tumbleweeds with the inevitiable drop in payroll next season, isn't going to do much for current customers. Something has to be done. Maybe not a firing now, but how about something a little more substantial than Teahen for Morel? They need to quit being so stubborn. If they rally and play well and win 85 games while some will call that a successful season, I find 85 wins if you don't make the playoffs during a year you are "all in" a failure.
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Dunn, Thornton, AJ, Rios, Beckham, Oz, KW
QUOTE (greg775 @ May 7, 2011 -> 03:23 AM) Who could have projected all these guys would be major horses***? I think I have singlehandedly identified the biggest culprits to our horrendous five week opening that has ended the season on the Southside before it started. I mean can anybody on here say anything good about these guys? I mean I couldn't add Pierre. He actually has had some hits. Morel has been awful but he's no major factor either way. Some of the other relievers we expect to suck. But to you five guys mentioned ... thanks for ruining the season. I mean our starting pitching has been reasonable. Maybe even pretty good. But those 5 guys ... wow. I repeat .. can any of you say anything good about Dunn, Thornton, AJ, Rios and Gordon?? I cannot. And I added Oz and KW for intangible suckiness. I don't think its a surprise any one of them has struggled. What is a surprise is that they are all struggling and the length of the struggles. The season is going to be a quarter over soon. How many good teams play this bad for this long? Its happened, but its extremely rare.
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2011 White Sox Catch-All Thread
QUOTE (JPN366 @ May 7, 2011 -> 12:42 AM) Is this a bad time to remind people that I thought Justin Smoak would've been a better draft choice than Beckham? Did you remind people when Smoak was a strikeout machine getting sent back to the minors? I believe in Beckham. There will be a lot of people eating their words in a month or so.
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Sox (11-21) vs Mariners (15-17) 5/6 @ 9:10 CSN
QUOTE (greg775 @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:47 PM) That is hilarious that the only bright spot on the team, humber, will be demoted soon. Typical for our season. He's not getting demoted. In fact, if Peavy shows he's healthy, I think a pitcher is going to get traded pretty soon.
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Sox (11-21) vs Mariners (15-17) 5/6 @ 9:10 CSN
QUOTE (fathom @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:45 PM) Any good players out there that are playing in college football? I was a fan of Mitchell when we picked him, but even he seems to be a likely bust. Aren't most football players baseball careers far less successful than what was projected?
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Sox (11-21) vs Mariners (15-17) 5/6 @ 9:10 CSN
QUOTE (fathom @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:43 PM) So that would mean Humber would be back in the rotation after a start or two. Supposedly they are going to a 6 man rotation.
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Sox (11-21) vs Mariners (15-17) 5/6 @ 9:10 CSN
QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:41 PM) he really needs to be fired that was as bad a manging job as there is enough already A new manager isn't going to turn this around. Don't do him a favor, make him sit through this all summer and either resign or trade him to the Marlins for whatever. Don't give him his guaranteed millions for next year for nothing.
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Sox (11-21) vs Mariners (15-17) 5/6 @ 9:10 CSN
Just wait until this team hits its groove. I've been optimistic, but that is changing quickly. What is there to hang your hat on? They have been brutal in every aspect. A couple of guys are hitting. A couple of guys are pitching, Humber especially, but every other aspect has been about as awful as it could be on the major league level.
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Sox (11-21) vs Mariners (15-17) 5/6 @ 9:10 CSN
QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:37 PM) i didn't see it, was it a base running mistake by Gordon in the 8th? It probably didn't matter, but Beckham was on third with the infield in and the contact play was on. The ball was hit right to the SS and Beckham was dead. It really wasn't his fault.
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Sox (11-21) vs Mariners (15-17) 5/6 @ 9:10 CSN
QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:35 PM) Can't blame Ozzie here, IMO. If Thornton can't retire Jack f***ing Wilson then he, well, sucks. His outing is about double the length he's used to.
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Sox (11-21) vs Mariners (15-17) 5/6 @ 9:10 CSN
QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:34 PM) i really do not think guillen even cares any more I think he wants to get fired. He'd still collect his money.
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Sox (11-21) vs Mariners (15-17) 5/6 @ 9:10 CSN
QUOTE (greg775 @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:22 PM) Gio's a good pitcher and Sweeney's OK and so is Chris Young. I really liked Sweeney as well, but he turned out to be no big loss.
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Sox (11-21) vs Mariners (15-17) 5/6 @ 9:10 CSN
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:19 PM) Gio Gonzalez was at 97 tonight in KC. I always loved Gio
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Sox (11-21) vs Mariners (15-17) 5/6 @ 9:10 CSN
QUOTE (fathom @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:17 PM) Wow, thanks Miggy! Always loved you. When you don't have to throw someone strikes, the league eventually figures it out.
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Sox (11-21) vs Mariners (15-17) 5/6 @ 9:10 CSN
QUOTE (greg775 @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:15 PM) Thornton appears to be throwing moderately hard. The other night he was hitting 99 on the USCF gun.
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Sox (11-21) vs Mariners (15-17) 5/6 @ 9:10 CSN
QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:05 PM) What is the difference in he and Daniel Hudson? Hudson's ERA is about 2.00 higher.
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Sox (11-21) vs Mariners (15-17) 5/6 @ 9:10 CSN
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:04 PM) Beckham giveth, Beckham taketh away. Of course. Contact play, it wasn't his fault, its the chance you take.
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Sox (11-21) vs Mariners (15-17) 5/6 @ 9:10 CSN
QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:01 PM) Bet he bunts I don't mind Pierre bunting. Now the infield is in and a flyball scores a run.
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Sox (11-21) vs Mariners (15-17) 5/6 @ 9:10 CSN
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 6, 2011 -> 10:58 PM) STOP MOVING DV TO NEW SPOTS!!!! New spot? Its his old spot. If they don't want to bench Pierre, its a good place to perhaps get some offense in the line up. Its a shame Morel can't hit.
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Sox (11-21) vs Mariners (15-17) 5/6 @ 9:10 CSN
Humber has been impressive yet again.
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Sox (11-21) vs Mariners (15-17) 5/6 @ 9:10 CSN
QUOTE (fathom @ May 6, 2011 -> 10:53 PM) Yeah, his "hot" stretch lasted like 3 games. Why not have Viciedo play 3B? I know he's awful defensively, but is he any more awful there than Teahen?
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Sox (11-21) vs Mariners (15-17) 5/6 @ 9:10 CSN
QUOTE (fathom @ May 6, 2011 -> 10:46 PM) Hawk is so pissed at Ozzie right now. It must be nice to have a job and not worry about getting fired, even if you're doing a worse job than Osama Bin Laden's courier. Hawk has question White Sox outfielders playing everyone the same way and not giving select hitters green lights on 3-0 counts as well. I think if you gave him some truth syrum, he would say Ozzie is not managing well.