Dick Allen

QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 07:26 AM) All kinds of teams that expect to be competitive leave room in their budget to make additions at the trade deadline. Any team looking to acquire Dunn would most likely not need to have $14 million in cash to deliver to him in a suitcase immediately. Most likely, they would take on about $5-6 million this year, which might have been left open in the budget, or resulted in an increase in ticket sales, or borrowed from another budget, etc. Yes, they would be required to pay Adam Dunn some $42 million over the next 3 years as well, but they very well have room for that in their budget because they haven't committed much in terms of payroll over the time period. And yes, the White Sox might even be required to throw in some money, but if it means getting out from a contract that is no longer seen as prudent within the makeup of the roster or direction the organization wishes to go in over the next three years, than it would indeed make sense rather than pay a player when the team would most likely not be competitive. I understand what you are saying in many of these posts. But you seem to take an incredibly simplistic view of the finances of a major league baseball team, especially considering some of the things organizations have done in recent years (including the one you are a fan of). And instead of realizing that the resources and assets of MLB teams are often very complex, you choose to view payroll budgets as some giant piggy bank which is broken open at the beginning of every season. For someone who claims to be an accountant, I just find the fact that you have that viewpoint incredibly unreasonsable, and difficult to comprehend. At the end of the month Dunn will be owed $11,666,667 this season, and $42 million the next 3 years. Please just name a team that would be willing to take him and his contract right now for A) something worthwhile and then give me the teams that would just take the contract. People are talking firesales here, not me. I don't think there will be one. But there is no team that would take Adam Dunn and his contract this afternoon off KWs hands unless they received some significant financial aid, and as I have stated, that makes zero sense for the White Sox.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 24, 2011 -> 07:20 AM) The Sox are tied for 29th in MLB, a half game better then the lowly Mariners. If this keeps up, think of the draft pick they will have.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 07:50 PM) If Adam Dunn became available today. There would be a bunch of teams that would chase after him. Heck we are playing one right now that I would bet on. Not with Victor Martinez on their team.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 07:29 PM) Yeah, they'll win next round. I'd be very surprised if the Bulls were to beat Boston or Miami in the Conference Finals though to be honest after watching these 4 games. This team needs better perimeter shooting, and more specifically, a 2 guard who can create for himself. Such things can be found, and I could see the Bulls winning title(s) if they do. But not right now, there are a lot of weaknesses on this team offensively that the process of being exposed has already begun on. Or this series can be used as a learning experience. I doubt the Bulls will continue to shoot so poorly and maybe they can figure something out with the way Indiana is playing them because everyone will play them that way and will only be better. I truly believe this is good experience for the Bulls. They will be confident if they don't play their best they will still be in the game but not. cocky. You have to know how to win close games.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 07:07 PM) Have you seen some of the offenses around MLB this year? There would be 10 teams that would claim Adam Dunn on waivers. I'm not asking what other teams could possibly use him, I'm just asking you to name one that you could make a reasonable assumption would willing to add his contract right now. Not many teams admit they left at least $14 million in the bank before the season started.

It seems the Sox have a real bad streak every year, even in 2005 when their huge lead was cut to game 1.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Apr 15, 2011 -> 02:09 PM) If you worked for a minor league team and KW Jr. asked for something that wasn't a reasonable request, would you feel comfortable saying no to him? Yes I would, but I'm married to a Labor and Employment Attorney so I think anyone would mess with me.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 06:50 PM) I don't understand this. It's April. Do you want a season from hell and no fun baseball this summer? I really think they should fire KW or Ozzie right now. I mean, unless they don't want to eat the salaries. The month of April is now classified as a disaster. That's one month of the season. Teams have fired guys in April before. I guarantee you Ozzie wouldn't be surprised if he got canned. He knows the drill. The Sox fired Gene Lamont 31 games into 1995 with an 11-20 record after back to back division titles. The problem is they replaced him with Terry Bevington. If the Sox have someone better than Ozzie available to take over, fine, but if its just another organizational guy, why bother?

QUOTE (Real @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 06:21 PM) Rios has a shoulder injury btw, Rongey mentioned it a couple days ago, he's trying to play through it. I don't think he said exactly what kind of injury it was, just said shoulder Really, because the reports have been his toe has been bothering him and has been a problem for 4 or 5 years. If he's beat up enough where he can't perform, its time to DL him.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 06:12 PM) At what point do you bench Rios? Definitely seems like he's taking his struggles at the plate to the field. I don't know if its his toe or what but the Oakland TV crew was blasting his effort running out a grounder the other day. He's been brutal.

QUOTE (OilCan @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 06:05 PM) Over/under on how many more games until Ozzie quits on this team? If they continue to lose, we will get the Ozzie seriously contemplated walking away story the day after the next off day.

QUOTE (gatnom @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 01:26 PM) . No, that had absolutely nothing to do with why anybody was angry with it. The people who didn't like the trade thought we didn't get adequate value for 6 years of well below market value for a mid-rotation starter, while leaving us with almost completely nothing in the minors in terms of pitching talent. Anybody who mentioned the "greatness" of Hudson was only responding to the idea that Hudson was only some sort of "NL" pitcher even though he was having a better year than Jackson, against better competition, in a more hitter friendly park. Hudson's ERA was less than 1/3 of Jackson's in Arizona, yet somehow Jackson was the only one possibly capable of handling the AL all of a sudden, which is absolutely absurd. I'll agree to disagree on this issue, but my problem with this trade has nothing to do with how "great" Dan Hudson is. The point is that Hudson doesn't have to be better than Jackson for us to lose this trade. Even if he's only the 4-5 starter you pessimistically peg him as, and I agree he's not as good as he was last year, we could still lose this trade. The argument has nothing to with Hudson being better than Jackson. It has everything to do with money. Nothing to do with it? Hudson wasn't good with the Sox last year, Jackson was. If Hudson had the same numbers last year with AZ he has this season, there would have been no b****ing.

I still think the Sox will be OK, but they better start winning within their division. Their struggles against Minnesota have been well chronicled, but this is going to be the 8th straight loss to Detroit. As Hawk would say, that won't work.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 12:07 PM) This couldn't be more wrong. Who would claim him? Or who would give you something of value for him? He's a DH making a ton of money. I'm happy the Sox have him because they have a need, but there aren't a lot of teams looking to spend $50 million on a DH right now, especially if he isn't hitting at the moment, and is 61 for his last 289 .211 avg with 112 strikeouts.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 05:23 PM) Can I just blame Edwin Jackson? Anyway, it'd really help if the team would catch the ball. You could and that would be the correct thing to do, but if you tend to blame Walker when the Sox hitting goes south, you should blame Cooper when the pitching goes. Jackson didn't pitch very well but he didn't get any help from his defense today . Pierre made a terrible play even though he may have the error changed, and on the triple, while it would have been a good play, Rios took a route a cartoon character would have taken to that ball. These runs in the 6th were on Ozzie as it was quite obvious Jackson was out of gas.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 05:22 PM) Not a chance. Cora gets the job. Cooper has never managed at any level. According to Oney, Cora wouldn't accept the job.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 05:20 PM) The scary thing is that it's possible they'll promote Cooper to manager if Ozzie gets let go. The bottom line is the Sox needed at least 10 runs to win yesterday and at least 9 runs to win today. There are more Walker vultures are out, but no Cooper. If Walker is solely responsible for the hitter's performances, shouldn't the pitchers' all be on Coop?

QUOTE (TitoMB @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 05:09 PM) "Both Walker and manager Ozzie Guillen have pointed to the fearsome starting pitching the White Sox have faced over the past week as a reason for the offensive cooling." NOTHING WE CAN DO! IT WAS JUST "FEARSOME" PITCHING! Haha, from top to bottom, this team is just a joke. What's Don Cooper's excuse? Fire Coop, he can't fix 'em.

QUOTE (Felix @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 11:04 AM) Fantastic analysis. That's basically exactly what we've been saying all along. Thank you for summarizing for the people who don't care to read. So based on efficiency ratings, Carlos Boozer just missed out being an All Defense player.

Getz has an OPS lower than Beckham's is currenty. Sweeney is hitting .222 with 1 RBI. I thought April Fool's Day was 3 weeks ago?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 11:29 AM) So in otherwords we can't make a deal because we might have to wait years to find out it didn't work out? Um, Ok. No. There's can't miss prospects and there's Matt LaPorta types. Guys like Tyler Flowers, Brent Lillibridge, Jeff Marquez, Jhonny Nunez aren't guys you acquire for John Danks. Even if they give you 5 or 6 of them. You have to get a consensus top 5 prospect IMO and someone who can and has shown they can do something at the major league level now, or you're just saving money, not helping your team get better in the future, hurting the present, which in the long run will eat away any savings from moving John Danks as fewer people will be interested in paying to see your product. Laporta was a top 25 guy. That's not nearly good enough. It needs to be one of those where KW asks for the moon because he knows he'll never get it, and winds up either getting it or something awfully close. Either that or hold on to Danks.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 08:34 AM) Hindsight makes that trade look completely different. At the time that was a huge haul. The problem is the view from hindsight is reality. What you think is a huge haul turns out to be not so huge most of the time. I think unless KW is just blown away by an obvious overpay, hanging on to Danks until the end is the play. The Sox aren't in a position to go into a rebuilding mode for a couple of years. Danks helps with winning immediately. You still get draft picks if you don't sign him, and if you don't sign him you will theoretically have that money to play with.

QUOTE (Andrew @ Apr 22, 2011 -> 10:44 PM) Tigers came out swinging first/second pitch...all night. It makes sense. Bad weather; a pitcher wants to control the count...they didn't want to let Buehrle do that to them so, bang him early and build momentum. We did the exact opposite. Tried to work counts and got burned. The lineup sucked. Morel and Beckham looked like the youngbloods they are. He did the same thing every damn time - fastball fastball fastball - all for strikes, then junk. They fell for it every time. And Dunn - for f***s sake.... It's like he's got a plastic hip on that right side. I still don't get the Sox hitting philosophy. It's like there's no plan, scouting, or "leadership" to assist them. I'm not talking about Greg Walker teaching people how to swing - but how about some f***ing strategy? He's seen Verlander how many times? I see other teams figure us out all the time, and it's like we either bomb by luck or fail massively. Frustrating team to watch and I can clearly see many of completely lost (talking about YOU Beckham, Morel, and Alexei) players and it's not their fault because who the hell can teach teach them better? The Silent Captain? Our stitched up DH? S***ty CF? Greg Walker? Christ, I feel sorry for them.... Yeah, I'd pin last night's loss on Greg Walker. When you only need to score 10 runs to win, there's definitely a problem with your hitting coach, especially considering how much Verlander sucks. Every other team in baseball has him figured out. This has to be the work of Walker. FWIW, I believe a pitcher wants to "control the count" no matter how the weather. As has been well documented, pitchers who throw first pitch strikes more often are far more successful than those who do not.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 23, 2011 -> 07:21 AM) You're (the acquiring team) guaranteeing at least $12 million that Matt Thornton will get it back together again. How many teams out there could afford to take that risk? For a set-up guy? If you do manage to find a trading partner, you're not going to get much back in return, just a salary dump (which does have some value, except in putting a competitive team back out there as soon as possible, assuming the payroll would consequently take a huge hit again). If we traded him anytime in the last 2-3 seasons, with his bargain contract, we could have gotten back a good haul, but the devil's in the timing. Otherwise, we could have gotten something back for Jenks or Crede. If iamshack were a GM, he'd be one of KW's 5 favs on his cellphone.