Dick Allen

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 30, 2011 -> 08:20 PM) f*** it, put Dunn or Viciedo in LF and DH the other one. Get some offense in the lineup instead of playing NL style bulls***. I agree.

This is about as bad as I have ever seen the Sox look.

At least the Sox didn't sign D Lee this offseason. He really looks Dunn, I mean done.

2 broken bat hits and a strikeout, 1 run in, runners on 1st and 3rd, nobody out. This is little league.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 30, 2011 -> 08:16 PM) Take a seat AJ! He is SO f***ING HORRIBLE! Boers and Bernstein continue to predict he won't last the whole season without getting released. B and B are incorrect. They are paying him $2 million this year and $6 million next. He's not getting released.

QUOTE (TitoMB @ Apr 30, 2011 -> 08:12 PM) Glad to see we demoted Thornton. Bad to see he still sucks. He broke the guy's bat.

If anything, hopefully these 2 games, (I know small sample size) show Sox upper management if for some reason Ozzie is replaced, Cora is just more of the same only not as obnoxious, and without an idiot son.

Is there a reason the Sox are leaving all their LH hitters in to face a lefty? I could understand Dunn.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Apr 30, 2011 -> 07:43 PM) He looks dreadful, and is even being squeezed a bit. It's unfathomable that the Sox don't have a run yet. They will be scoring here.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Apr 30, 2011 -> 07:37 PM) It wasn't a great swing, but it's a hit 95% of the time. It was just unlucky that Andino made a great play on it. Jam shots and ground balls up the middle happen all the time. If that ball got through, I gaurentee people would say "There ya go Alex! Finally". But no, so instead it's extreme negativity. This board is seriously the biggest downer. Can't wait to get drunk tonight and not be depressed by this s***. It's more depressing here than it is watching this team play. It really wasn't a spectacular play by the SS. With the exception of the first half of last season, Alex Rios has been an awful player for the Sox. Not average, not below average, not bad.............awful.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 30, 2011 -> 07:32 PM) Cue the "well the Cardinals and Rockies and about 3 other teams in major league history came back from being 8 games under .500" If it was an NFL season, it would be only 2-3 games, if NBA/NHL, only 14 games and the equivalent of a 6-8 record. ETC. I'm going to be tired of hearing about that 26-5 streak from last year being the reason to be patient...or the Twins being in the same position. They're in just as much, if not more, trouble than the White Sox going forward. Even Greg Walker would mess up Roy Hobbs or Josh Hamilton. They probably don't have a 25-5 streak, that doesn't happen often, but last year, even with their awful start, they were only 1 over .500 the last 2 months of the season, so without a 25-5, there is time to make up ground. Its Cleveland they are chasing. Right now its only a week or 2 of decent baseball and Cleveland hitting reality and they are right there. Every loss makes you wonder if they will ever play well, but they will.

If Rios is injured, he should sit. If he's just this bad, he should sit.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Apr 30, 2011 -> 07:15 PM) This scene is almost written for a triple play to occur. 2 out of 3.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 30, 2011 -> 07:08 PM) This organization would never do a true rebuild though like what Cleveland and Tampa had to do. Too much money being a Chicago market team to suffer like those teams did. Even JR said they would be bad for a few years if he chose the rebuild route this past winter. I think it would be more than a few.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Apr 30, 2011 -> 06:55 PM) People will reply that if we undergo a rebuilding effort the crowds will go away and our payroll will sink. Yes, that's true -- but also, at the point when we're fielding a good team, with a whole new set of names, they will return. If there's any one thing you can say, without question, that has been absent this last decade it's a contributing minor league system. Having a 90 loss team shouldn't be the push needed to address this issue, but they'll never learn otherwise. If people can't take a 10-17 start, there is no way they will be able to stand years of no chance when the season begins, and there is zero guarantee if the White Sox organization focused their resources entirely on the draft and development, that they would be successful. In fact, the odds would be against them. Fans clamouring for this reminds me of Jerry Krause looking forward to the day MJ and Pippen and Rodman were no longer around so they could build a champion and get all the credit.

Good thing the Sox didn't sign Carl Crawford.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Apr 30, 2011 -> 06:07 PM) No, it wont. Thankfully that's all the insight necessary for your post, because this 20 year number was obviously an arbitrary figure of how YOU feel. Yes, we all realize you don't want to grow old and watch the Sox struggle; I've picked up that vibe for years. But admit that rather than provide a doomsday scenario of what may happen if they decide to take another direction with this team. Listen, there's no set way of winning a championship, but what they're doing right now isn't working. It may be time to try another approach rather than wait for a .700+ winning streak to set us right and give everyone false hope. Deal with it with some dignity, please. If the Sox cannot select the correct players who have track records, how are they going to build from within through drafting unknowns? Who have they drafted have they basically stolen? Who have they developed? They do not have the personnel in management to get this done. I agree with SS2K5 here, although 20 may be a little high. What makes them Tampa Bay (who were bad a real long time) vs. Pittsburgh or KC who have been bad even longer? They go to a real low payroll, unless their recognizing talent in the draft and developmental program improves dramatically overnight, it will be closer to 20 years than the 3 or 4 most who choose this way figure it will take.

There has to be concern. They are losing and are failing offensively, defensively and on the mound. Their baserunning has been horrid, they insist on bunting and cannot execute bunts. Every phase has been well below par. Everyone knows teams with the Sox talent level don't perform like they have performed for 6 months. They will improve, but hopefully they don't have to make up 15 games when this turnaround occurs. I think they are still OK.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 29, 2011 -> 06:12 PM) Trying to avoid the boos from the home crowd this weekend? Non players have no right to appeal. If he gets suspended, he has to serve it right away.

If the season is over in Chicago, its also over in Minneapolis. Of course everyone would have preferred the Sox actually win some games in April, but the season is not lost yet. Its way too early for that. It does suck that you wait a long cold snowy winter for baseball and the team you follow falls on its face before it gets warm, but, and I am a guy who isn't always optimistic, I really think the Sox are the class of their division. A few tweaks is all it takes IMO. One may be Pierre. If he can't steal bases, he really shouldn't be in the major leagues.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Apr 29, 2011 -> 08:52 PM) I'd have Ballard playing on the inside not the outside. But he is quick enough to be a pretty nice DE opposite of Peppers. Very complete too cause he can play the run as well. He tested positive for 420. He's an idiot who cost himself some cash, but a good player.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 29, 2011 -> 03:33 PM) I'm not saying he didn't break the rules, but the punishment is ridiculous. Think about the guys who throw at people that nothing happens to. Think of players getting DUIs that nothing happens to. But tweets during a game is worth a two game suspension? MLBs priorites are way out of whack. The shot at the ump is going to get anyone suspended whether its tweeted or spoken. It probably would have been a fine and and a warning had it just been a twitter violation, but Ozzie gets suspended almost annually. If he said that about the umpire after the game he probably would have been gone 2 games anyway. Oney couldn't believe the suspension. He said MLB is full of itself. That's ironic.

Lillibridge was spectacular in the 9th.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 26, 2011 -> 08:07 AM) That's just not true. Right now is perhaps the worst time you can try and use for a player's trade value, since we're less than a month into the season. What you can go off of is previous deadlines, where there are usually a few desperate teams trying to stay in contention. Did you think anyone would take on Vernon Wells' contract this offseason? Speculating that a guy is going to be worth so and so at the deadline is just that. What if Dunn doesn't come out of it? Face it, if the Sox are in a position to dump contracts Dunn probably isn't lighting up the scoreboard. The reason the Sox would be in a dump mode was because their high paid guys weren't performing. Those guys don't get moved for a big prize. If you're telling me I'm all wet, you have to tell everyone else their all wet. Dunn to the Cubs? Even you know its laughable. Wells was a headscratcher but that also was one team that might have gone after Dunn, and was done in the offseason when teams have determined their budgets and are putting together their teams. Dunn has been traded at the deadline before for 3 not very good players and the Reds had to send cash. He wasn't owed what he's owed right now. Moreno wanted to spend some money last winter and couldn't get the guys he really wanted. He shocked the world with what he did and got burned. Moreno isn't going that route again, and I doubt any other team was touching that contract.

What's up with the Yankees hitting coach? They can't hit a waiver claim. He needs to get fired.