Dick Allen

This whole thing isn't because they are worried McCourt will spend money on himself, its an old boys network that McCourt has exposed and embarrassed. He's not wanted anymore. If JR had the same Fox deal and he told Bud he was going to spend some of the funds buying the Phoenix Coyotes, it still would be approved, but McCourts tabloid style divorce embarrassed the owners and his looting Dodger cash to live high on the hog exposed what kind of money these guys make.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 09:42 PM) Really, no he wouldnt be out of the woods. Theyd still be staring at a mountain of debt with inadequate revenue streams to cover what they've taken out. Its a $3 billion contract.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 09:48 PM) Hawk drop the season ticket crap it is almost July...........Nobody with any sense would pay to see this s*** offense every night! You'll guarantee yourself the opportunity to purchase tickets for playoff games that will not be played. You won't get your money back, but you will be able to use it towards tickets for 2012

Everything being said, I would be more stunned than Blago if after the game Ozzie said he pulled Rios because of lack of effort.

Anyone see Mauer and a Twins pitcher getting into it a few days ago?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 09:45 PM) We wouldn't be nearly as mad at Pierre is he was fielding like last year. And swiping some bases and scoring runs instead of jogging back to the dugout. Plus Morel has an excuse, being a rookie. Hopefully he can hit the ball with a lot more authority moving forward.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 09:43 PM) What did he "dog" on the field, Fathom? He got to that ball just fine, but it hit off the heel of his mitt, which is why he didn't catch it. Believe me, I was frustrated with that error just as much as anyone, but only because he DIDN'T dog it, he DID hustle to get to the ball in time, which means he should have caught it, but he didn't. But it wasn't because of lack of hustle. People seem to want to link his lack of hustle down the line earlier in the game with this particular play, but they are not comparable, at least IMHO. Check the replay, he didn't get to it just fine. He took a very leisurely route to the ball.

Offensively, there's not much difference between Morel and Pierre this year.

Pierre's had a decent game, easy out here included.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 09:40 PM) I didnt see Rios dog it (anymore than any other player does on a ball hit right to an outfielder), but supposedly on his first out he did (I wasnt watching yet). He dropped a play he makes 99/100 times, but it hit the heel and if you catch enough fly balls that happens 1 time. I dont get it really. Its the second time its happened this year. It shouldn't happen twice in half a season when you are a $12 million a year major leaguer.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 09:38 PM) did he dog it on the bases or in the field? It looked like both, but it could be his toe is bothering him. He popped up to first and only went about halfway down the line and he looked totally lost when he dropped a ball.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 09:36 PM) I didnt see the first pop up, but the other plays I saw nothing different than what 75% or more baseball players do. Rios didnt slam the bat, he didnt go insane and not run to first, he just didnt run 100% down the line. Thats not something new in todays game. Its like saying youd bench Konerko because he didnt run out a play, its silly. I get that people are upset at Rios for not playing up to his contract, but hes still a better player than Pierre. I could give 100% every at bat, I still wouldnt deserve to be playing. Follow the crowd, I guess its accepted. I find dogging it repulsive. Even if 75 percent do it. Have some pride.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 09:36 PM) Pierre has dogged it to first a few times. I'm very sensitive to that, and I will say, Pierre is one guy I have never seen dog it.

Let him steal and put GarGo on.

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 09:31 PM) Wow. Rios benched by Ozzie. Hooray!!!!!! He's not getting a return on his investment doing that. Rios has looked like he's going through the motions again tonight. He is very graceful and sometimes that looks like a lack of effort, but even when he popped it up, he only went about 40 feet down the line.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 09:28 PM) Jeffrey Loria makes payroll every month. Jeffrey Lorias wife isnt using the club as leverage in a divorce. And if Selig would approve the Fox deal, McCourt would be out of the woods as well. The excuse that he will use some of that money for personal use is hypocrital.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 09:21 PM) Major League Baseball is already accusing McCourt of siphoning off more than 100 million from the franchise for his own personal use. Wilder looks like a pickpocket compared to McCourt and his soon to be ex wife. Jeffrey Loria spends revenue sharing money on personal things. Like it or not, I'm sure JR's private jet has been gassed up using White Sox profits.

QUOTE (Cali @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 07:42 PM) I honestly root for Pierre to fail now. In all my years of watching White Sox baseball, I can say I've never done that. I root for JP to fail and the Sox to win despite him every time... At the most, there are only about 82 games left in Juan Pierre's regular season White Sox career. You might as well cheer for him to do well, because at this rate, if they ever finally decide to make a change my be too late. Viciedo is due to cool off. It would have been nice having him in the line up while he's on fire.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 10:51 AM) The players will get paid, but that doesn't mean the White Sox will. That is different. The Sox are a creditor, not an employee. The Dodgers still have a lot more assets than liabilities. The Sox will get paid. The Dodgers would basically have to fold for the Sox to be left high and dry.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 07:24 PM) I hate to burst your bubble, because I know you are just having a great time right now, I mean, like, the most fun you've ever had, but there's a big difference between the usage of JR Smith and Jason Richardson. Really, arguing that JR Smith is a better player than Jason Richardson just shows that anyone can cherry-pick stats. Over the last four seasons, Jason Richardson (313 games played) has been the more effective player across the board than JR Smith (308 games played), despite being a much more focal point of his team's offense. Richardson and Smith are nearly identical in PER over the past 4 seasons (16.74 to 16.675, slight edge to J-Rich). However, Richardson has the advantage over Smith in FG%, 3P%, FT% (and obviously and inherently points, boards, etc as he carries more of a workload). JR Smith, despite playing 9.5 fewer MPG over that span of 300+ games, turns the ball over more than Richardson. In the end, you've got two solid, but not ideal options for the Bulls come FA whenever that becomes feasible. To just check-mate this as Smith being the better player, or better shooter, or better scorer, well, that just ignores facts. The man can shoot the ball and would be an obvious upgrade for the Bulls, and I imagine he'd also be cheaper and age better throughout the contract. I guess the reputation that comes with JR Smith scares me away, but I think that reputation is more perceived than factual as I go through the Google logs. Depending on the CBA, I'd rather Richardson in the short term, but JR would be a solid consolation prize. So you've opened my eyes a tad to JR Smith, though I don't see why you are getting so worked up, c'est la vie. No need to worry or argue. You have a better chance of seeing the Lord than John Paxson, Jerry Reinsdorf and Gar Foreman offering JR Smith any money.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 26, 2011 -> 08:27 PM) Farmer's been on the fans for this, and it goes something like "booing a guy will never help him out of a slump (it will only make things worse...)" What will his family, his children attending the game think about Chicago fans? He's a part of the White Sox family...it's our responsibility to support him. How does being negative help the situation? DJ's response was more like "it goes with the territory...when you're scuffling or playing under your expected level of performance, you know it's coming." Just have to take it an at-bat at a time and slowly put together a good game, then a good streak of positive at-bats, etc. Get back to basics, see the ball, hit the ball. Basically, the fans are paying good money for tickets and its their right to express their feelings and emotions, as long as they're not profane or disrupting others' enjoyment of the game. I never thought at any point in this season I'd be much more concerned about Dunn than either Rios or Peavy, that's for sure. Once Dunn starts performing, the booing will stop. Pitchers don't strike out as much as he does.

QUOTE (OilCan @ Jun 26, 2011 -> 06:39 PM) http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/white-sox/...-chorus-of-boos Bold font is my doing. I could have really scalded these two for what they said about Adam's struggles, i.e. "not giving away any at bats...100 Ks before HALF the season isn't giving any at bats away???" and blah blah blah, but then I read the next quote: IMHO - Dunn should just shield off everyone else except his captain, Konerko; his batting coach Walker, and Ozzie about anything related to hitting, and tell the rest of the league/fans/media/etc to STFU. I don't boo players except Jaime Navarro, but I do think people have the right to boo someone making a ton of money playing a game. If its too much, I'm sure Adam has made more money already this year than millions will make in a lifetime, he can go home. That said, when the game begins, Dunn is not booed. He's not booed when they announce the line ups. He's not booed when he's announced as the hitter, he's booed when he strikes out, and we haven't seen this rate of strikeouts for a long time. It looked to me like Friday night he may have something to build on, but something is very wrong. He's late on 86 MPH fastballs. He's fanned 16 times his last 6 games. He has 11 games with at least 3 strikeouts. He's only had 9 games with at least 3 plate appearances where he hasn't struck out at least once.

Rongey with the return on the investment crap is just spewing what he believes to be the company line. He also stated that one hitter isn't going to make a difference. So I suppose he probably believes that if Adam Dunn was hitting like most thought he would instead of how he actually is, since he is only one guy, it really wouldn't matter. He can't really believe that. I bet you if you got him hammered and he was spilling the truth, he would tell you it was time for Juan Pierre to either sit down or go home.

Humber pitched a great game. The whole premise about having a starter pitch to someone that is going to be their last hitter no matter what happens, generally means you will regret leaving him in.

QUOTE (GREEDY @ Jun 26, 2011 -> 11:27 AM) Two of the worst offensive players in the American league batting one and two.... Go Sox! It would look nice about 8 years ago.