Dick Allen

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 7, 2011 -> 03:23 AM) Who could have projected all these guys would be major horses***? I think I have singlehandedly identified the biggest culprits to our horrendous five week opening that has ended the season on the Southside before it started. I mean can anybody on here say anything good about these guys? I mean I couldn't add Pierre. He actually has had some hits. Morel has been awful but he's no major factor either way. Some of the other relievers we expect to suck. But to you five guys mentioned ... thanks for ruining the season. I mean our starting pitching has been reasonable. Maybe even pretty good. But those 5 guys ... wow. I repeat .. can any of you say anything good about Dunn, Thornton, AJ, Rios and Gordon?? I cannot. And I added Oz and KW for intangible suckiness. I don't think its a surprise any one of them has struggled. What is a surprise is that they are all struggling and the length of the struggles. The season is going to be a quarter over soon. How many good teams play this bad for this long? Its happened, but its extremely rare.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ May 7, 2011 -> 12:42 AM) Is this a bad time to remind people that I thought Justin Smoak would've been a better draft choice than Beckham? Did you remind people when Smoak was a strikeout machine getting sent back to the minors? I believe in Beckham. There will be a lot of people eating their words in a month or so.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:47 PM) That is hilarious that the only bright spot on the team, humber, will be demoted soon. Typical for our season. He's not getting demoted. In fact, if Peavy shows he's healthy, I think a pitcher is going to get traded pretty soon.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:45 PM) Any good players out there that are playing in college football? I was a fan of Mitchell when we picked him, but even he seems to be a likely bust. Aren't most football players baseball careers far less successful than what was projected?

QUOTE (fathom @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:43 PM) So that would mean Humber would be back in the rotation after a start or two. Supposedly they are going to a 6 man rotation.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:41 PM) he really needs to be fired that was as bad a manging job as there is enough already A new manager isn't going to turn this around. Don't do him a favor, make him sit through this all summer and either resign or trade him to the Marlins for whatever. Don't give him his guaranteed millions for next year for nothing.

Just wait until this team hits its groove. I've been optimistic, but that is changing quickly. What is there to hang your hat on? They have been brutal in every aspect. A couple of guys are hitting. A couple of guys are pitching, Humber especially, but every other aspect has been about as awful as it could be on the major league level.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:37 PM) i didn't see it, was it a base running mistake by Gordon in the 8th? It probably didn't matter, but Beckham was on third with the infield in and the contact play was on. The ball was hit right to the SS and Beckham was dead. It really wasn't his fault.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:35 PM) Can't blame Ozzie here, IMO. If Thornton can't retire Jack f***ing Wilson then he, well, sucks. His outing is about double the length he's used to.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:34 PM) i really do not think guillen even cares any more I think he wants to get fired. He'd still collect his money.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:22 PM) Gio's a good pitcher and Sweeney's OK and so is Chris Young. I really liked Sweeney as well, but he turned out to be no big loss.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:19 PM) Gio Gonzalez was at 97 tonight in KC. I always loved Gio

QUOTE (fathom @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:17 PM) Wow, thanks Miggy! Always loved you. When you don't have to throw someone strikes, the league eventually figures it out.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:15 PM) Thornton appears to be throwing moderately hard. The other night he was hitting 99 on the USCF gun.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:05 PM) What is the difference in he and Daniel Hudson? Hudson's ERA is about 2.00 higher.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:04 PM) Beckham giveth, Beckham taketh away. Of course. Contact play, it wasn't his fault, its the chance you take.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 6, 2011 -> 11:01 PM) Bet he bunts I don't mind Pierre bunting. Now the infield is in and a flyball scores a run.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 6, 2011 -> 10:58 PM) STOP MOVING DV TO NEW SPOTS!!!! New spot? Its his old spot. If they don't want to bench Pierre, its a good place to perhaps get some offense in the line up. Its a shame Morel can't hit.

Humber has been impressive yet again.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 6, 2011 -> 10:53 PM) Yeah, his "hot" stretch lasted like 3 games. Why not have Viciedo play 3B? I know he's awful defensively, but is he any more awful there than Teahen?

QUOTE (fathom @ May 6, 2011 -> 10:46 PM) Hawk is so pissed at Ozzie right now. It must be nice to have a job and not worry about getting fired, even if you're doing a worse job than Osama Bin Laden's courier. Hawk has question White Sox outfielders playing everyone the same way and not giving select hitters green lights on 3-0 counts as well. I think if you gave him some truth syrum, he would say Ozzie is not managing well.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 6, 2011 -> 10:45 PM) What did I say? Jesus, Ozzie. Cust doesn't have a homer all season long yet. Smoak's only hitting .362 with a 1.146 OPS the last 17 games. Scouting, White Sox??? I bet Greg Walker told him to pitch to him. I think Ozzie is being exposed as a fraud.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 6, 2011 -> 03:09 PM) No one has thought of Torrealba as a full time player since his career started, most he's ever caught is 105 games and he has a career .705 OPS. AJ regularly catches 130+ games, has a .744 career OPS, and his .688 OPS in a terrible year last year was only .017 points worse than Torrealba. Russell Martin's OPS the last 2 years was .680 and .679, worse than last year's AJ, and he only caught 97 games in 2010 due to health issues. He's also being paid $4 million this year (AJ is getting $2 million this year and $6 million next year, averaging to $4 million). People would have laughed had we signed either of those guys and declared them to be our starting C. I agree here. Martin got off to a good start, but lets see what happens. Odd are he's crashing.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 6, 2011 -> 04:04 PM) Considering that teams were offering him more than that in the offseason...yeah. THE team offering that, apparently will not be able to meet payroll at the end of the month. I would venture they are no longer interested.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 6, 2011 -> 03:14 PM) Ugh, $6 million for next year? He's going to be impossible to move. Not only that, he's a 5 and 10 guy. They can only move him to a place he's willing to go.