Dick Allen

QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 09:08 PM) Who knows. He could be taking velocity off on purpose for more control, his walk rate really went down last season. His WS battle with Bagwell when he was just throwing gas was epic.

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 09:06 PM) predictions for bottom of the 9th? aj out on 2 pitches, both out of the strikezone quentin soft single through the middle on a 2-2 fastball crede pops up uribe strikes out i like to amuse myself Ramirez is in for Uribe, but if he does strike out, they should charge it to Uribe.

I do hope Hawk retires the "we still have 15 outs" line after tonight.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 09:02 PM) To get to Ensberg, I understand. I don't understand why we set up our rotation so that Buehrle wouldn't face the lefty dominant Yanks lineup. If Jenks still threw 100, they would have tried to blow him away.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 09:02 PM) Why do we keep walking Giambi? Because he was hitting .120 coming into today's game.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 09:01 PM) Do IBBs count against a pitcher's WHIP? Yes.

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 08:59 PM) whoever delivered the scouting report for posada tonight needs to be fired. 3 doubles, are you kidding me? Sox pitchers were just unlucky. Hawk is sometimes so crazy. He is flabbergasted by bloop hits against the White Sox, but when Erstad was on the Sox he would actually say Darin jammed himself on purpose to get bloop hits.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 08:58 PM) Be careful, I said how great of a pick-up it was, and got ridiculed. How dare you say paying someone the minimum who was hitting.375 was a good pick up.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 08:57 PM) Oh yeah, you went to eat with the Uribes. No food for you. You got that right. There could be guns involved if you were out of line.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 08:54 PM) That must of been some dinner. Actually there were just libations.

Its Uribe's fault they didn't at least tie it up that inning.

QUOTE (frankie5angels @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 08:44 PM) He is their best option. Their bullpen is terrible. Gagne was as big of waste of $10 million for Milwaukee this year as The Big Hurt would have been a waste of $10 million for Toronto next year. A guy I work with is a huge Cubs fan. He actually has season tickets right next to the visitor's bullpen and actually watches the games. He couldn't stop talking about how much smaller Gagne is now than he was with the Dodgers. I think he got some help.

I wonder if Hawk thinks LaTroy Hawkins is unlucky

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 08:38 PM) look at the swings crede takes, after uribe I'd say crede is second in our lineup at swinging at bad pitches I'll take a .300 average, 19 RBI and a league leading 6 homers anytime.

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 09:28 PM) swish and quentin are trying to make up for the lack of heart on this team with their own, it's not enough though they are the only two players i see on this team that look like they're busting their ass every day, everyone else is just totally flat edit: i'll add thome to that list, he has been playing hard as well crede, aj, konk, uribe, dye, cab all look disgusting right now Crede is really looking bad. Double, single and Rbi last night, homer tonight. Awful.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 08:20 PM) That must of been some dinner Uribe bought for you to keep fluffing such a crappy player. Those other players are not making 4 mill to hope they might achieve that .235 ceiling that Uribe shoots for every year. Uribe would be a HOF caliber player if Walker didn't introduce him to the lift and pull.

QUOTE (Frankensteiner @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 08:18 PM) Do 9th place hitters count differently in the stats than hitters in other spots? I mean is it ok for a guy to suck because he's the 9th place hitter. No. Every hitter should hit .400 or they suck.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 08:15 PM) So because the Sox don't have a solid replacement, Uribe becomes a better player? He still sucks, and he would still suck if Utley was on the roster. It doesn't matter. You entire defense with Uribe seems to be about what other players are doing in the lineup. The other players in the lineup have contributed something over the last few years. Uribe hasn't. And why the hell should he get praised for having a good night? Something about a blind squirrel...? He's been very unappreciated. He plays good defense, hits 20 homers and drives in 70 every year. Sure, all his other numbers suck. He hits 9th and drives in 70 runs. That's probably better than most 9th place hitters. He's struggling now, but will go on a hot streak eventually. He always does. This board treats him like he's a career .150 hitter.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 08:11 PM) I'm actually rooting for Massett to get lit up here. The sooner he is off the team and Broadway is up the better. Be careful what you wish for.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 08:04 PM) I just disagree with that. I don't want to speak for everyone, but I'm not bashing Uribe because there might be a replacement on the roster already. I'm bashing him because he f***ing blows, and has blown for YEARS. The thing that pisses me off is Uribe is the 9th place hitter. He gets slammed for not getting Chamberlain last night, when the 7th place hitter was just blown away. If he went 3 for 4, there would be countless posts b****ing about the out he made. Also, his possible replacements people talk about like they are HOFers. Ramirez is just Uribe if Juan gets his jaw wired shut for a couple of months, and Richar hit .230 with a .289 OBP last year. I don't see where those numbers scream he's worthy of playing everyday on a contender.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 08:01 PM) He is one of the most overpaid mediocre pitcher in baseball! Javy has ability. I just don't think he really would be anyone's first choice to send out there to win a big game. Whether he is unlucky or too competitive as Hawk seems to think, it seems the bigger the pomp and circumstance, the more likely Javy doesn't dominate.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 07:55 PM) If we go into this perfect storm s*** Walk needs to go. Yes. I knew it was getting close.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 07:55 PM) I wonder if the bullpen had been pitching better lately if we'd have gone to it at the start of this inning or had a quicker jook with javy when someone got on base. Didn't you hear Hawk, Javy is just unlucky, was last year and in 2006. In fact, he's always unlucky if he loses.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Apr 23, 2008 -> 04:11 PM) Note that Paulie has been hitting about as badly as Frank over the past few weeks, yet Ozzie hasn't "indefinitely" benched him for lack of production, even with a much cheaper and ML-ready Josh Fields waiting patiently in AAA. It doesn't answer the question.

The other ironic thing is KW almost traded Garland for Renteria before he traded Garland for Cabrera.