Dick Allen

What I don't understand about the people griping about this the most is the Blue Jays did Frank a favor. Even if it was only about the option for next year, so what? There isn't 1 team in MLB that would want to be on the hook for $10 million to Frank in 2009. He still gets paid the same amont this year, some are saying the Blue Jays have no realistic chance anyway, I disagree but what do I know. Frank now has the opportunity to find a team that does.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 06:21 PM) I wonder if the same people that think he should just cash the checks and not care if he is playing or not, ever criticize a player for signing a big contract and not caring? GMAFB. Criticizing a player, any player, for wanting to EARN his money silliest thing I've ever heard. I wonder what Dick_Allen would have posted if Frank was heard saying, play me, or not, I don't care; I'm picking up 8 million for the season so I will just stfu and keep my jersey clean. I'm confused as to how hitting like crap, but staying in the line-up so a $10 million option will certainly kick in is a sign of wanting to EARN his money. Wouldn't wanting to EARN his money be more like OK, I've been bad, Stairs is hitting, the object is to win. I'm a HOFer, I will start to hit, and then they will have to play me, instead of running to the media saying the Blue Jays are benching you and the only reason is an option for next year they don't want to kick in? He was told he would be playing 2 or 3 times a week for an indefinite period. He could have kept his mouth shut and started hitting, forcing the Blue Jays to play him and actually EARN his salary this year and next year's option, which at the age of 40/41 would have been more money than the White Sox ever paid him for a season. The person who made the option for next year an issue with the media is Frank. If Frank doesn't like the terms of his contract, he shouldn't have signed it. The fact was the Blue Jays offered him more guaranteed money than any other team, it wasn't as incentive-laced, so the guy who wanted to EARN his money signed. I don't blame him for that, but please, quit with the Frank just wants to EARN his money. He just wants to maximize his money. Just ask yourself this question, if the White Sox bought out Thome after this season, would it be a good move to sign Frank Thomas to a 1 year $10 million contract for a season he's where he will turn 41 years old? I don't think even his biggest fans would think that would be too smart. There's more to this, but the Blue Jays weren't going to release him. He just had a bad attitude about the whole thing, did not interact with his "teammates" after yesterday's victory, and once again was all about Frank. Its refreshing an organization has the balls to eat $8 million to show primma donnas they don't run the place. One thing is guaranteed, if Frank produces at his next stop, he will complain about money again.

QUOTE (jackie hayes @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 04:47 PM) Toronto isn't a cheapskate team. They paid big money for Ryan, Burnett, Wells. They'd pay $10 mil for two years of production, if they thought he could provide it. They may not want to pay him, but it's because they don't think he helps the team, not because they've suddenly become the Marlins North. I agree. Frank with the $8 million this year will have pulled in $100 million in his career. Almost 1/5 of that being paid by Toronto who paid him more in 2007 than the White Sox ever paid him for 1 season.

Danks and Contreras with 0 walks their last start.

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 03:07 PM) Considering the problems that the Sox have had in Tampa in recent years, and the way they got handled yesterday, this is a really nice game for the Sox They were undefeated in Tampa last year. But I do remember Billy Koch.............................

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 01:47 PM) Hawk talking about Scottie Pippen? JR = 'my friend' Yep. If Pip wouldn't have signed that contract and got market value, maybe he would have started dropping for his servers.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 02:13 PM) Has it seemed like to anyone else that Crede has been much worse this year then his numbers would indicate? Yeah, they should release him.

QUOTE (Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 02:06 PM) Gary GLover is a lover, not a pitcher. Mclovin

Speaking of weight, AJP is a lot lighter than he's been in years.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 01:56 PM) Great game going for Thome. He's squared up the ball in every AB. Hawk and DJ must be shocked he's hitting a RHP

QUOTE (max power @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 12:46 PM) I don't think he is that fat. He is fatter than he used to be and therefore too fat. You'd think he'd take his athleticism more seriously since that is a huge part of his career. If Jenks gets lit up the next appearance, will you be talking about how far below his belt his gut appears to be hanging?

Danks has looked awesome except for 1 start this year.

QUOTE (max power @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 12:42 PM) They are also not paid professional athletes. If someone not named Juan Uribe stood right next to you in street clothes with the exact same body, you would not think he's fat.

QUOTE (max power @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 12:39 PM) So he is a jolly fat man. I bet 95% of the people who constantly have the Uribe weight comments have bigger waistlines than him.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 12:37 PM) What is he like personality wise? I can't really understand him too much when he talks. Lot of Spanish. There usually is about 8 people the few times I've been out. But he will laugh at anything you say.

QUOTE (DonnyDevito @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 12:36 PM) Yeah...I think I'd rather have Jerry Owens on this team than Brian Anderson. Its hard to play as little as Anderson and be sharp at the plate. If they aren't at least going to use BA as a defensive replacement, Owens could at least pinch run.

QUOTE (Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 12:32 PM) So your objectivity in regard to Uribe IS in fact somewhat lacking. Probably, but I've always been a backer.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 12:31 PM) Did you wear a bulletproof vest? Full body armour. The first time I met them was before that incident. I was a little leery afterward.

QUOTE (DonnyDevito @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 12:30 PM) Did Juan eat the entire buffet? He does pick up every check.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 12:26 PM) Do you hang out, or do you know him as that you saw him at the park and he signed your baseball. I've actually been out with a group including him and his brother a few times.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 12:10 PM) You should write him, he will be touched/confused that he has a fan club. I know him.

Just to say time with Uribe coming up f*** Uribe Uribe sucks What does Uribe have to do to get benched Release Uribe That should cover it.

QUOTE (DonnyDevito @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 12:27 PM) Can't Frank Thomas ever be happy? He's been living in $7 million mansions for decades. Can't he ever just STFU for once and do what's best for the team opposed for himself? That's the one thing I'll remember about the Big Hurt...he was selfish. And that's probably why he never won a ring. Kenny made those comments about Frank Thomas for a reason. He has a 2005 WS ring.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 11:24 AM) Bonds being unemployed has nothing to do with his talent. Exactly, and Piazza wasn't exactly stellar during his DH stint. The other thing is teams that sign him will only be on the hook for the pro-rated minimum, which the other two would never play for. If Frank still wants to play, I'm sure he'll have an opportunity.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Apr 20, 2008 -> 09:37 AM) They both f***ed this up. Cabrera didnt run the batter back far enough before the first throw, and Uribe ran him too far after the exchange. You always run the batter back to the back he previously occupied, not towards the base he is trying to steal. The blame is 50% for both of them. LMAO. So you're saying Cabrera f***ed up, Uribe shouldn't even have been running him back to second, and then blame Uribe who was throwing the ball to second with Crede there to tag the runner out, but Cabrera intercepted the ball. Why do I have the feeling if Uribe went 4-4 with 4 homers, you would find a few things wrong with them.