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QUOTE(Wedge @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 09:27 AM) So Pauly should do the Macarena at homeplate the next time he gets a HR on Zumaya? The kid did nothing wrong. After he got Konerko out he pumped his fist. Watch the pre game video at USCF, and you will see Bobby Jenks pump his fist over and over. There's nothing wrong with showing a little emotion. Jenks doesn't show up anyone with his fist pumping, and Zumaya didn't show Paulie up at all. Dennis Eckersley used to point and "shoot" guys when he struck them out and would tell them to go sit down.

QUOTE(NYSox35 @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 09:27 AM) "In an April meeting with Zumaya, Konerko took him out of the park for his first homer of the year. After that game, Zumaya said Konerko wouldn't get another one off him this season." There was my problem, not his action after this particular game. To each his own, but I just think it was sort of uncalled for. Whatever, Paulie will keep being an All Star caliber player...fine by me. Is he supposed to say Konerko is going to hit several more homers off of him?

QUOTE(NYSox35 @ Jun 7, 2006 -> 08:35 AM) Zumaya = Douche Zumaya would look pretty good in the White Sox bullpen. I like his attitude.

I am an Anderson fan. But he almost seems resigned to the fact that he's going to have a very poor at bat every time he steps to the plate. I don't know what Ozzie was thinking yesterday having Cintron bunt early in the game with guys on first and second and nobody out. Normally its the right move, but with Anderson coming up next, taking the bat out of Cintron's hands was not wise. I don't know if sending BA down to AAA will help or hurt him, but at this point, finding someone who can play CF and hit, at least a little bit, will help the White Sox. The Sox face a ton of lefties the next couple of weeks. It would probably be best they make a mover sooner rather than later.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 09:25 AM) You take Uribe out of the equation and you put in a allstar top 5 offensive guy like Tejada and our offense doesnt just get better, it becomes sick. It would be better than anything we have ever had. Look at how improved it is after just adding Thome. You add Tejada yikes. Our pitching has been medicore, so taking one of the SPs out and putting in McCarthy into the rotation isnt going to queer the deal. So what do you think is going to happen, all of a sudden our SP is just going to flip a switch and boom they are 2005 allstar pitchers, or that they will be good to decent all year long. If we can replace Uribe with Tejada, we could live with Anderson and if he hits even .091 at the 8 or 9 hole with his awsome defense. That's all fine and dandy. The problem would be getting Baltimore to think they are getting market value for Tejada. Garland or Garcia, plus Uribe plus a minor leaguer or 2 isn't going to do it. Other teams would and will offer much more if Tejada were to become available and was playing at his earlier lofty standards.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 6, 2006 -> 08:38 AM) Very few similarities, other than the obvious (i.e. they both breathe oxygen). An insult to AJ. It would be interesting to see the thread when the Sox first showed a little interest in AJ. IIRC, many on the board weren't very kind in their assessment of him. While their actions may be and are different, the similarity between AJ and CZ is fans of the team he is playing for have a totally different view of his "antics", real or perceived, than do others.

Zambrano would be the best pitcher on the White Sox, IMO. I would take him in a heartbeat. The Cubs are dumb, but not dumb enough to ever let him go. He's probably nuts and a guy you hate as an opponent. Sort of like AJ.

Guys like Everett and Smoltz really should be taken to the woodshed if they made comments about playing with gay players. Its no different than saying you wouldn't play with a latin, black, or white player. Its ignorant.

I really don't think the Orioles would trade Tejada for a bunch of young players. It wouldn't fly with the fans of Baltimore and Angelos knows it. The Sox need pitching. Tejada would be great, but its not going to happen. They won the WS with Uribe as SS.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 5, 2006 -> 07:13 AM) And now the Philly Inquirer is reportin on it; It would seem a pipedream to send Garland away, and free up tons of money. I do think people should keep in mind Garland may very well be receptive to a trade to a team that is good. It won't be long before the Sox will be able to trade him anywhere, and he might chose a trade to a good team rather than refuse and risk going to an even less desirable place for him in the future.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 4, 2006 -> 07:14 PM) It didn't help that the pen also gave up 4 runs today. 3 were by Politte, and 1 given up by Montero. You can pretty much bank on each of them giving up runs when they enter the game. I don't think Ozzie wants to put either in a game that is not decided, and I doubt either will be with the team much longer.

I would say the biggest positive is we are complaining and concerned about a team 12 games over .500 the first week of June. Things could be a lot worse.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Jun 4, 2006 -> 03:48 PM) I'm calling the vatican to have Rowand nominated for sainthood. Why not? He's taken on epic proportions on this board. This team is simply playing poor baseball right now. Period. We saw them do the same thing last year at various times and they're doing it again right now. Grab an airsickness bag and hang on. Maybe they'll turn it around; maybe they won't. But it won't be for lack of effort, heart, leadership, or the presence of Aaron f***ing Rowand. I agree. If Rowand makes such a difference between winning and losing, how come the Phillies aren't running away with their division? The reason the Sox are struggling is because their pitching has been horrible.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Jun 4, 2006 -> 03:44 PM) AAA success doesn't seem to translate into ML success when it comes to our prospects. I am not sure who we have at the Charlotte or Birmingham clubs that can get out major league hitters on a regular basis. Of course sometimes I wonder who on the ML roster can get hitters out sometimes. I really don't think there's any pitcher at Charlotte who could really contribute right now. Unfortunately, there are pitchers in Chicago who can't contribute right now. If Politte wants to be useful, maybe he can throw to Thome in home run derby.

I just heard its been 2 weeks since a White Sox starter has gone 8 innings. With as bad of bullpen as the Sox have, the results have been predictable.

Today was the first day in 6 years I left the game early because of a power route. Cliff Po-meat needs to be waived. He can't even mop up blow outs.

Montero blows, but he's at least as good as Politte at this point. This seems like a convenient "injury" to Nelson. They need a right hander who can pitch to more than 1 or 2 batters in the bullpen.

QUOTE(Mansoo @ Jun 3, 2006 -> 08:19 PM) How about K. Griffey Jr. ?? I don't think its a question about money. I'm sure Cincinatti would pick up some of if not all post playing days obligation, but the deal last year included Chris Young. He gone, and the Reds are in a better position in the standings. The baseball people with Cincinatti probably would trade him in a heartbeat, but the business people aka ownership would be leary of letting him go, if he would even go. He would get hurt in no time though, and he can't get a breather at DH, so pass at this time.

Defense saved the Sox in the 8th, and Jenks didn't let the tea cup zone get into his head in the 9th. It should have been a laugher, but a win is a win.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jun 3, 2006 -> 09:20 PM) I'm not excusing him, he sucks, but he's out there and Bmac wasn't avaible and Nelson blew last night. ANd I would love for KW to go get something but there won't be very much worth anything out there until the trade deadline so we'll have to go with a Montero or Farnsworth. As unattractive as those options are, and I agree they are probably the only ones, they are better options than Cliff. He looks like he's going to cry on the mound.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jun 3, 2006 -> 09:16 PM) Our bullpen is far from stellar right now. And if you run the pitchers into the ground that are decent, because you don't want to use someone, those decent pitchers will just get worse. There's absolutely nothing that can be done to change that until we get some new pitchers in that pen. We have nothing servicable in the farm, and trades won't exactly happen that soon for someone of actual value. Its an upset if Politte gets anybody out at this point. Any of the gas cans at Charlotte can be at least as good as him. I say give one of them a try.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jun 3, 2006 -> 09:11 PM) Who else are we going to use? We can't use Bobby for 2 innings every night. We gotta hope Cliff finds it or something. Who cares about righty right lefty lefty match-ups with him. He's terrible. Use anybody. He should not be in a game that basically hasn't been decided yet. Even Hawk said if Matthews got a little under the only out Politte recorded it probably would have been on the concourse.

To me Jenks looked like he lost all the extra weight he came to spring training with and then some. But the last week or so, he looks gigantic again. Bigger than spring training.

Really, how many more times does Ozzie need to put Politte in the game to get it through his head he shouldn't be pitching unless the game is out of hand one way or the other?

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