Dick Allen

If the Sox did fall apart, I wonder how Hawk would blame it on Manuel.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 03:41 PM) More Ozzie than KW if you ask me. However, I'm sure neither of them would be fired. Neither of them would, I agree.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 03:42 PM) We all knew August was going to be tough. It's over. September looks kind of cake to me. Hopefully that instills some confidence back into the pitching and offense for the postseason. Between July and August, they were .500, as average as you can be. They don't have many off days now, and have really played poorly at home. If Ozzie continues to give away games by trotting out lineups like the one he threw out there today, you will be witnessing one of the biggest collapses in MLB history.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 03:25 PM) A move better be made. This team has died over the last month in a half. Our manager keeps trotting these disfunctional lineups. If we blow this lead KW should be fired. And so should Ozzie.

QUOTE(Misplaced_Sox @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 01:34 PM) I think Duqe has one more solid inning... at least thats all I would risk.... pitch count getting up there We need some runs.... wheres the Rally [insert board rally object]? I think a rally rat would be in order.

QUOTE(bighurt4444 @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 01:30 PM) Texas doesn't seem to be having any problems with these bad hops. Maybe they're cheating.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 01:23 PM) Our "regulars" havent done much in this game, but "this lineup" which I assumes means the subs, have manufactured a run, and looked more sound in the field. How is that sadness? Jinx

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 01:16 PM) Everett has been absolutely horrible this year in the 5 hole. 92 ABs, .239 AVG, .725 OPS, 6 HR. Why put guys in places where they tend not to succeed? Just because you think that's where they should hit? The reason AJP has such stellar numbers in the 5 hole is because he only hit there after he caught fire. When he was on his hot streak he was moved to the 5 hole. When he's slumping he's moved down.

QUOTE(Mr. Showtime @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 12:44 PM) It seems like there is 10 people at this game. Lots of empty GREEN seats I thought people liked to sit in green seats, it was the blue they were opposed to.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 12:25 PM) Just a generic comment that this is when you go back home and hope to see a new teamate to help you out, and then he said he wasnt talking about sept callups. Didn't Farmio also say Jake Peavy was available a month ago?

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 12:01 PM) This is a brutal lineup. Why Willie why? The last thing our offense needs is someone who's even less productive than anyone else we've been putting on the field. The sad thing is I complimented Ozzie on the lineup he used for the 2nd game last night. Then, he goes out and puts up basically the equivalent of a 2nd game of the DH lineup. How come no other team sits out 3 starters on such a weekly basis? Maybe they should let El Duque hit, and DH for Harris.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 11:28 AM) Uh oh: Timo lf ozuna 3b Aj c Konerko dh Rowand cf dye rf blum 1b Uribe ss harris 2b Not too impressive of a line-up. Maybe they'll pull a shocker and score a few runs. Definitely looks more like a playing-out-the-string line-up, than one of a team involved in a pennant race.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 09:41 AM) Time won't prove your point. I have already agreed that it isn't very probable. All I'm trying to say is that Frank said there is chance, yet you act like you have the definitive answer. If you know more than Frank does about this, I yeild. If not ........ I think you're the guy that was criticizing my spelling a couple of months ago. You may want to look at how you spelled yield.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 09:37 AM) No .. you are guessing. As I said, you don't really KNOW s*** about it. You have the right to your opinion. Time will tell.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 09:34 AM) Ok .. I'll call you on it. What do you know beyond what the rest of us know? I know that he won't be able to play for the rest of 2005, and its no sure thing he will be able to play in 2006.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 09:28 AM) I read the article. I know the odds are long. But, the point is ... you are acting like you are an expect on Frank's medical condition. When it comes down to it, you don't know s*** about it. And remember ... you are the one that SCREAMED it. Just so there wouldn't be a 50 page thread on Frank coming back in October. Since you wouldn't know me if I was standing in front of you, you really shouldn't make assumptions of what I wouldn't know s*** about.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 09:06 AM) Frank himself said there is a chance. I'm sure he has more info on the topic than you do. You are just spouting off and do not know anything more than the rest of us. I'll grant you, it's not probable. But you acting like you really have the definitive answer is ridiculous. Read the article, Frank said there was a chance, but he had no idea what kind of chance. His idea of a chance may be 1 in a million. You can say I'm spouting off, but the White Sox, the team with probably the most optimistic idea of injuries in sports, declared him out for the season and the playoffs.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Aug 31, 2005 -> 08:50 AM) ^^^^ The ultimate authority ^^^^ Would you care to make a wager? He's in a cast, if the best case scenerio occured and he was able to get the cast off in a couple weeks, that would leave him with 2 weeks until the playoffs to get strength back into the area, and get sharp enough hitting to where he actually could contribute. He wouldn't be able to take a minor league rehab assignment, since the minor league season will be over. There was the same pipe dream that he and Maggs would possibly return last year. It isn't going to happen, its not realistic.

Frank is done for the season, playoffs included

Great, great job by BMac. Not only with the shutout, but giving the bullpen a break by pitching into the 8th.

QUOTE(the southside tiger @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 08:42 PM) Try reading the third to last and second to last sentences. I deal specifically with that. They didnt do anything with other teams! We gambled on them. That was my point. The Yankees gambled with Johnson giving him a 2 year huge extension. He's on their payroll until he's at least 44. Pavano was a $50 million or so gamble. Its kind of fun to have a team like the Yankees around. Its a lot more satisfying beating them than the Royals.

QUOTE(Sox Hustler @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 08:29 PM) I wanted Wright... And the reports were so did KW before the Yankees came in late and swooped him up.

QUOTE(the southside tiger @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 08:23 PM) Pavano had one good season preceded by several of mediocrity. Dont you think the Yankee scouts could have figured it out? No. GS just has a lot of money to throw around so if one guys doesnt work out, it doesnt really matter. If Jon the coward were available at the end of this season, hed be getting huge offers. There were a lot of people on this board hoping JR would open the checkbook and sign Pavano. I desperately wanted the Sox to get Randy Johnson and there were a lot who felt the same, some signings are a stretch, some are just bad luck. If Steinbrenner wants to throw his money at everyone, more power to him.

BMac has been awesome tonight.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Aug 30, 2005 -> 07:38 PM) I love Hawk. I dont' care what anyone says. I love him too. But he is full of s*** sometimes.