Dick Allen

Freddy was horrible against Oakland. It appears its more of the same so far today.

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 12:21 PM) Man It seems like Frank has been 0-2 in like his last 50 AB's. Come on Hurt...snap out of it He's basically Ron Kittle circa 1986 right now.

Does anyone else find it odd that Carl Everett's favorite cartoon is the Flintstones?

This is going to be a tough game to win today. Robertson's a good pitcher.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 11:21 AM) Actually its disgusting how much people overate Paulie.... he could be hitting .220 but when he bats all the fans chant Paulie like he is a god...... Frank gets louder cheers and he's hitting .218.

I think another problem with the White Sox making a deadline deal is I don't think what's in the Sox farm system is highly coveted. There are players there who have a chance at becoming good major leaguers, but there is nothing close to a "can't miss" prospect.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 07:38 AM) its been like 88 years. trade the whole aaa for all i care. Just get what we need. This is a year in baseball where alot of teams are average. This is so true. This is the White Sox chance. The $200 million Yankees have holes that they won't be able to fill until the offseason, and they will fill them. The Red Sox while still a force, seem to be suffering a post championship letdown, and their bullpen is questionable. The whole NL with the exception of STL is weak. This is the Sox best chance. They can't waste it.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 20, 2005 -> 07:35 AM) It doesn't matter for me. I do 99% of my drinking at the tailgate before the game. I can't convince myself to spend for 1 beer what I could buy a six pack for outside of the park. It is amazing what beer costs. I can never understand the people that complain about ticket prices, but always have about 10 beers at the park.

If the White Sox want to win a WS they have to seriously think about getting a big bat. One of the team's problems in the WS would be that the DH plays one of the biggest roles on their offense. With no DH being used in NL parks, they would be at a severe disadvantage. I know they played well without the DH in interleague play, but the WS could be a different story. I don't know if Griffey is the guy, but the contract plus his injury history may make his price reasonable.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 08:36 AM) Don't see any quotes from Mark and Frank calling their competetor the "best they ever played with..." :rolly I like this approach by Ozzie.. "Because there are more important things with this ballclub than talking about Magglio. When it's time to talk about Magglio, I will. "It's hard for me to come here after the way we played and all of a sudden the first thing is [about] Magglio Ordonez. "It's not fair for our players, it's not fair for me. … I want to talk about my team first before I talk about Magglio." Hope Paul is taking notes this morning.. Ozzie already talked about Magglio. I don't think even he would have much to add to what he had to say.

I was sitting next to 2 couples last night. One was a married couple and the other the married couple set up on a blind date. It was hysterical. The guy who was set up, was singing at the top of his lungs every canned song played last night. The girl who he was set up with, who was pretty damn hot, would just kind of laugh. Then the wave started. He was doing it, throwing his hands above his head, screaming. After that the guy and the husband went to the bathroom or something. The 2 women where there and started talking, the wife apologized to her friend. Her friend said "It wasn't that bad until he started doing the wave", This is a true story. Doing the wave is not cool.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 06:45 AM) Put away the tin foil hats fellows. Kenny Williams said he isn't doing anything, because there is nothing out there worth doing. Of course he isn't going to say that there is a big deal working, but he also wouldn't flat out deny it if it were actually happening. And everyone wants to point to the AJ thing, but at the time, we were going to get AJ. It took major campaigning by Hawk to open that door, and then it still took a while for Kenny to investigate AJ to his satisifaction before he would act on it. The deals that are on the table now are stupid. If there was a deal that would improve this team, KW would do it, and money isn't an object right now. But even with saying that, just because you have money in your pocket doesn't mean you go out and spend it stupidly. These guys also don't want this to be a one year thing, and trading away guys like McCarthy, Marte and Anderson for a middle of the road pitcher, that is not doing the future teams justice. There is a balance there. Our best hope is one of these teams that is holding onto desparation right now, finds a horrific two week slump and decides to meltdown at the last minute and we slip in the backdoor to pick up some guys (ala the white flag trade of 97 in reverse). Other than that this is the worst deadline trade market I have ever seen. I have never seen the teams looking to add players having to pay so much. In a wierd way it was a great year to have a bad first half, because veteran players are trading as such a premium right now. It does seem like prices for players that can help is high. We'll have to wait until the deadline to see how the market actually shakes out. I think part of the problem is other teams aren't enamoured with the White Sox prospects. We'll see. Guys will get traded. It will be interesting to see what the sellers actually get.

QUOTE(needauribe @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 09:29 PM) To anyone who got to watch on WCIU: Farmer said Hawk caught the ball Crede fouled off just before the homer. Is that true? Edit: Eat s*** tiggers!!!!!!!!! It bounced off his hands. Give Hawk an erra.

I didn't read the whole thread, anyone know why Politte closed tonight?

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 09:42 PM) That ball Inge hit was actually off the end of the bat and just kept going. If he hits them that hard off the end of the bat, he's going to be a 50 home run guy some day. Is that what the replay showed? I was sitting a couple rows from the Tiger on deck circle and as soon as he hit it everyone around me knew it was gone.

I heard Angelos isn't too thrilled about taking Burnett with his reconstructed elbow.

Just got back. El Duque was better than he was when he went on the DL, he actually fooled a couple of guys, but he is not at a point where he can be relied on. They hit some ropes off him, including an Inge bomb the very first pitch of the game. All in all, I would say he was average tonight. Maybe he can improve, but if he went down to a tired shoulder in June, I don't see how anyone can count on him for September and October.

I think this means KW is going to wait for Wagner to become available.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 02:55 PM) If we get Wagner I will hump my computer when I read the story Put some plastic over your keyboard.

QUOTE(The Critic @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 01:51 PM) Not sure about that at all. It wouldn't make sense for him to use the no-trade, even if he could. Unless he really didn't want to play for the team that wants to obtain him. If no one wants to trade for him, what are the options? Does he have to either go to Charlotte or become a free agent? I, for one, will miss Shingo. As I said before in another thread, he was my highlight of the 2004 season and I appreciate the fun times he provided last year. Best of luck to Shingo and I hope some other team can experience SHINGO TIME!!! GONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think I read where his no-trade clause was fiction.

Has Shingo been sent to Charlotte?

Remember the 1994 team everyone thought would win the World Series? If the White Sox went 6-17 their next 23 games they would have the same record as that team. It puts things into perspective as to how unbelievable they have played this year.

QUOTE(Cubs Suck23 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 11:03 AM) WSCR radio just said that the Sox are really close to sending Shingo to AZ so i guess NO Hawkins WSCR has been wrong countless times before. I remember when they announced the Sox had signed Dave Stewart. Turns out it was Dave Steib.

QUOTE(rangercal @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 09:41 AM) I don't know. I just don't trust paulie since 2002. I feel the royce comment and now this may be indirect shots at Frank. Sometimes its just best not to say anything at all. The Clayton comment and this one are totally different. Clayton was released by the Sox and considered a cancer by members of the team and management. Ordonez was the best player on the team during Konerko's time here. His teammates respected him and management offered him the largest contract in team history. Konerko is far from the only one with the team who feels the way he does.

QUOTE(WSoxMatt @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 09:16 AM) Ill be there Wednesday and BOO him all day!!! He left and bashed the Sox and Guillen, thats reason enough. C Lee took the high road and praised us. I wonder how he feels being 18 some odd games out of first place now too!! Didn't Ozzie bash the White Sox when he left after 1997?