Dick Allen

How much better is Hamilton than Engel? He can steal more.

AJP can.

Considering his price tag, It is actually pretty shocking to me. But he is challenged position wise, contact wise, and his power was zapped a bit last year. He hit more homers in KC than Chicago. Just don't see much upside there. He does have a nice head of hair.

It wouldn't surprise me if the Sox went back to Alex Avila again. He could probably be had for nothing, and the D Backs may kick in some coin. The Sox have always liked old rival catchers. Sandy Alomar Jr. came back a few times.

Colome gets Avi's money

That seems logical.

2018 means jack in 2019. The Sox sold about as high as they can with Omar. This guy is 2 years removed from a .627 OPS in Charlotte, and a .550 OPS in Birmingham. Give him credit, but he's in for a fall, and he is horrible behind the plate.

Perhaps. Narvaez wasn't going to be the every day catcher on the next good White Sox team. Might as well sell him off after a hot streak.

Like it. Sold high on Narvaez who is awful defensively. Castillo is the starter. I'd be shocked if they signed Grandal.

Yes. There probably is a better chance of the Sox signing both Harper and Machado than there is of Abreu getting non tendered.

Yes I have. Your “proof” is Kris Bryant and Bryce Harper for some reason, and you brought up arbitration rules when this isn’t arbitration. The fact you wouldn’t answer my multiple choice question speaks volumes. Teams and players can negotiate contracts however they wish. The 20% rule is the minimum a team can submit for arbitration. Arb hearings aren’t for a couple of months. Brett Lowrie took a cut with the White Sox. Not quite 20% but close, and certainly more than 20% of what his arb figure would have been. Then they cut him and paid him 547k.

Players have signed for less than what their arb total all the time. I provided several examples. The 20% rule only applies to arb figures submitted, nothing else. You mentioned Harper and Bryant who have nothing to do with this. We have an ml.com writer, and mlbtraderumors saying they can offer whatever they want. You are on an island with your view. Even you mod helpers aren’t coming to your rescue. You are wrong. But which did you pick in the multiple choice? one thing you seem to be ignoring is arb salaries are not guaranteed. Releasing a player the first 16 days is spring training get them 30 days pay. So really if the Sox offered Avi arb and he wo $8 million, they really would only technically be on the hook for 1/6th of that if regaled quickly, and a quarter of that if released later on.

The only chance they have is if JR goes nuts and outbids everyone else by a significant margin. It’s still I. The back of my mind that there is a one in a thousand chance it could happen. I really do feel for the people who are convinced it is going to happen. They are going to be pissed.

Yes you have to figure it’s a lock the Sox will agree to a contract 5 or 6 times the size of the biggest contract they have ever handed out. And agree to that contract with one Scott Boras, because who doesn’t want to play for a team coming off a 100 loss season, with 6 losing seasons in a row, that is virtually ignored in its own city.

“Unless Avi Garcia comes to the White Sox and says he will play for $3 million or some other ridiculously team friendly amount, there is no way he is not getting non tendered.” Phil Rogers just now os STL If you were Avi Garcia’s agent and the Sox offered $4.5 million would you A. Call the lawyers and file a grievance B. Advise Avi that signing it is probably his best bet C. Advise Avi he will do better on the open market

If you notice, he knows he is being ridiculous just like when he agreed Machado actually hustling would probably get him injured. But he is too far down the road, and can't admit he's wrong, so he gets more ridiculous.

Craig Stammen made $2.25 million in 2015. Had surgery and was non tendered by Washington. San Diego signed him to a $900k contract. Just think how awful it would have been had the Nats offered him $1.5 million and gave him a 33% cut. Lawyer up. Grievance time.

Because most of those guys are making near minimum anyway. Avi and Schoop are in a pretty unique situation.

So you are saying his agent and the union would rather the team offer nothing than something they may deem to be market appropriate. The team has no obligation to offer him anything. There is nothing illegal about offering him a contract as long as it is minimum. There isn't a gun to his head. He becomes a free agent if he doesn't like the deal. Lawyers paid up. That's a good one.

So the White Sox say, Avi, sign this contract for $4 million or become a free agent. And you are saying that is grounds for a grievance. Ridiculous. And here I thought all along players loved free agency.

Notice how that says arbitration. Signiing a lesser contract or being non tendered avoids arbitration. Avi can sign for the minimum today if he wished. But keep your ridiculous argument up.

Your argument makes no sense. But you can say you won if it makes you feel better.

They weren't non tender guy. Here's one about a Braves pitcher last year. Notice what his arb was projected at, and what he signed for. And Bryant's grievance went nowhere fast. Braves catcher Anthony Recker (left) chats with pitcher Mike Foltynewicz. Recker signed a one-year, $800,000 contract Friday, avoiding arbitration. (Curtis Compton /ccompton@ajc.com) Braves sign Recker and Rodriguez, make Withrow non-tendered free agent Dec 02, 2016 By David O'Brien, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Share on Facebook Share on Twitter ... More The Braves signed catcher Anthony Recker and left-handed reliever Paco Rodriguez to one-year contracts Friday, avoiding arbitration with each, while reliever Chris Withrow became a non-tendered free agent when he wasn’t offered arbitration. Recker got an $800,000 contract, and Rodriguez signed for $637,500, each taking less than their projected arbitration salaries. ADVERTISING n the case of Rodriguez, who missed the 2016 season recovering from elbow surgery, he was projected to get $900,000 through arbitration, and it seemed likely the Braves would’ve non-tendered him rather than go through the arbitration process and potentially pay that much.

Since you wanted examples, can you show me some of these? Give it a rest. if no one wants to pay a guy his arb figure but he wants to stay with the team. why couldn't he agree to something less? The union would rather have him unemployed? Avi can say no and he is just non tendered which is what would happen if the Sox couldn't negotiate with him. So what exactly is the harm to the player? Your argument makes no sense.

See above. This argument is OVA!!!!