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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 9, 2014 -> 01:38 PM) Honestly, it doesn't matter. I was originally responding to jenks' saying that these kids rightly realize that they're better off going to college than trying to go pro right away. For the ones who could actually go straight to the NBA from HS (only a few a year), I doubt spending 9 months nominally enrolled at a college really does anything beneficial. For these select few, they'd be better off if they could go to the pros right out of HS. I wonder what the numbers are for kids who go college baseball versus straight to the minor leagues? Isn't the argument a little bit different when you're talking about degree/cert requirements versus a strict age limit? It's not like the NBA requires a college degree, it's simply a time-based thing. Either way, I wasn't arguing whether or not they can or should, just that it isn't necessarily in the individual athletes' best interests that they do. On the other hand, you could make the argument that NBA GM's are horrible at their job and the NBA needs this rule to prevent them from doing dumb things.

QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 9, 2014 -> 01:41 PM) There are highly positive intrinsic benefits from going to college that you could argue for. Of course, we could also argue that elite college athletes aren't allowed to experience those intrinsic benefits. Right, I don't think your typical one-and-done who would have been drafted straight out of HS anyway is getting much out of their year playing in college.

I'm talking about from the perspective of the player. What good would it have done Kobe to go to Random U and generate a bunch of profits for them and their conference versus going straight to the NBA if some team (really, every team) was willing to pay him millions of dollars right out of HS?

Ok? He still went to the NBA and started making millions of dollars a year earlier. He still became one of if not the best players of his time, won multiple championships and made hundreds of millions of dollars. I don't see where playing at UCLA or Florida or wherever would have made a difference.

RAND’s estimates could rewrite the enrollment story

I don't see why the NBA wouldn't just change their "one year after high school" rule to crush any upstart competitors to the NBADL. Plus any new development league wouldn't have the huge, pre-existing fanbases. What good would it have done Lebron James or Kobe Bryant to play for a college team for a year?

somewhat related: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/07/educatio...cation&_r=0

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/col...singlePage=true

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 7, 2014 -> 08:27 PM) Never underestimate people's desire for other peoples stuff, no matter what it is I've gotten about one email every ten minutes since posting. Ridiculous.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 09:08 AM) Throw it on craigslist for a weekend and see if you get a bite. good call, within 2 minutes had a response, now hopefully they actually come and get it

that wasn't even close

don't see anything on RCP or google news?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Apr 4, 2014 -> 10:34 AM) Fine, but we're talking about change the laws anyway. Or at least re-interpreting them. To me if you're making the argument that college athletes should be paid (and I understand the NW players are not as part of this union push), high school athletes should too. The law is explicit and clear about part-time/full-time, and as of right now nobody has proposed rewriting that law. The NW players had to show in their argument that they qualify not only as employees but as full-time employees. The impact would be much broader than just (non-)amateur athletics. At least one distinction is that these mega-programs are rare edge cases in HS sports, and we're still mainly talking about public high schools that all kids are free to attend and don't need scholarships. The opposite is true for college.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Apr 4, 2014 -> 09:36 AM) Why should the amount of time you put into something matter? The full-time/part-time distinction is central to whether or not a group can unionize.

To some extent, but there's not nearly as many options for the team to control--they're minors, they're going to be living with their parents. They're in high school, so they have electives, but it's not as broad as choosing a major at a University with dozens or hundreds of options. There's bound to be local youth curfew laws they're already under, labor laws about how many hours a minor can work at an after-school job, etc.

Wasn't part of the ruling about how much control over the athletes' lives the universities have as well? Curfews, pressure over what classes/majors to take, final say on where they can or can't live, etc.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 04:59 PM) Magic and science are two very different things. In the year 2014, believing in magic is silly. In the 1500's, believing in science was cool, but not particularly backed by goofballs who... believed in magic and s***. But thanks for the pointless comment. FWIW the ancient greeks worked out that the earth was round and came up with a pretty good calculation of the circumference around 300BC or something, plus India and other civilization independently worked it out. Europe got real dumb for a long time after the Roman Empire collapsed. edit: Eratosthenes Eratosthenes (276–194 BC) estimated Earth's circumference around 240 BC. He had heard that in Syene the Sun was directly overhead at the summer solstice whereas in Alexandria it still cast a shadow. Using the differing angles the shadows made as the basis of his trigonometric calculations he estimated a circumference of around 250,000 stades. The length of a 'stade' is not precisely known, but Eratosthenes' figure only has an error of around five to fifteen percent.[19][20][21] Eratosthenes used rough estimates and round numbers, but depending on the length of the stadion, his result is within a margin of between 2% and 20% of the actual meridional circumference, 40,008 kilometres (24,860 mi). Note that Eratosthenes could only measure the circumference of the Earth by assuming that the distance to the Sun is so great that the rays of sunlight are essentially parallel.

MF Global customers to be paid back in full. http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/dealbook/2...ck-in-full/#_=_

If I junk the whole thing I'll definitely try to sell the pump and heater assembly.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 11:06 AM) Did you not keep it on all winter? I thought that was all you had to do. It's been busted since before we bought the place. According to our neighbor, it was installed around 1999 but wasn't used by the two owners between then and when we bought the place (2011). The pump still works, but who knows how long the plumbing's been busted. You'd need to either keep it on all winter so the water doesn't freeze or drain and winterize it.

Worth a shot I guess but the plumbing is all busted because the previous owner never bothered to winterize it.

At this point I'm thinking Sawzall + Waste Management

Yes

A lot of this on that website appears to be typical ignorance or intentional fear mongering. Dead people are not automatically and instantly removed from the rolls. Sometimes, people send in a ballot absentee or vote early but die before election day. None of that is fraud. Someone being registered in two states isn't voting fraud. Short of nationalizing the voting system and cross referencing it against some sort of death database, these sorts of things will happen and they won't actually matter. If I moved to Colorado tomorrow, didn't cancel my voter registration in Illinois and only voted in Colorado in the fall, nothing fraudulent has happened.

Worth pointing out that voter I'd wouldn't have done a single thing for this sort of issue.