iamshack

QUOTE (yesterday333 @ Oct 13, 2017 -> 08:04 AM) Is it really that hard to stay on the base? You know if you come off you can be out. It really doesn't take that much extra effort to not come off the bag... Well, if you are really coming in fast and hard, I can definitely see how it would be easy to have your foot or leg slide up off the base momentarily. Those bases are really smooth. Perhaps everyone can wear velcro and they could make the base velcro so once you slide into it, you just stick

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Oct 13, 2017 -> 04:36 AM) Nats should go out this off-season and add another starter. Also helps that Werth will be off the books replaced by Eaton. Side note: anyone else get slightly annoyed when Michael Taylor is referred to as: Michael A. Taylor? I get that there was another player of the same name, but Eaton isn't referred to as "Adam C. Eaton" (like he was when in old baseball games when he was a rookie). He asked to be referred to as Michael A Taylor as his father's name was Anthony. It is an homage to his father.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 11, 2017 -> 03:31 PM) I’m just waiting for a picture of you eating your Italian Beef No, no...that wasn't the bet...the bet was that I would buy Joe 5 italian beefs from Portillo's if he won, or that he would get his butt into shape if I won.

I wonder how Joe is doing with his workout regimen....

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 11, 2017 -> 12:21 PM) These days, you win games with home runs and pitching. They have a really nice looking line up, but they don't hit enough HRs. Their staff looks decent, but with Price getting hurt, that really hurt them. Having to go with Fister in a playoff elimination game shows they were a bit short. I feel like Betts and Bogaerts fell off a bit this year, and trading Shaw, who could have eased the loss of Ortiz, really hurt them. Porcello obviously returned to earth, and while that probably surprised very few people here, his dropoff and Price's injury were just a lot to overcome.

I think they should hire Eckersley

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 10, 2017 -> 06:53 AM) I believe mid third quarter Gruden mentioned that there were 16 *accepted* penalties McDonough even said early on that this game reminded him of a game last year Bogar officiated on Monday night where his crew seemed to want to be the story. Pretty amazing comment for a guy that is relatively non-controversial. I was pleased with what I saw. The one big mistake was a third down where he rolled out and made a bad throw to a receiver that was well-covered when he had Cunningham wide open in the middle. I didn't even mind the interception, tbh, because I'd rather go down trying to make a play than just getting sacked or checking down like we've seen from Glennon. That wasn't even a terrible throw IMO, guy just made a great play on the ball. Nine times out of 10 the defender probably just deflects that ball. This was true for Glennon as well, but Mitch just has nothing to work with. Even still, if we had to win a game with the passing game (and I know we don't), it's very clear that Mitch at least gives us a chance.

QUOTE (Soha @ Oct 7, 2017 -> 09:04 AM) Comparatively maybe. But in real life, the difference between 300k and $8 mil is being rich or not being rich. It's not happening. He's already made several million dollars. It isn't like he's working for minimum wage over in Japan.

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 11:56 AM) I would be surprised. Human brain values preventing loss more than increasing gain. Yeah, they will probably just keep demanding the out clauses.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 5, 2017 -> 05:11 AM) A valid point but also one with an additional point to raise - baseball is having salary inflation of like 8% a year, so the hit of a $200 million contract today to a team's long term plans will be much less than it would have been a decade ago. The raw number is so high that it certainly knocks some teams out of the running, but the overall game's economic strength makes the number less big and scary than it seems. It's genuinely hard to keep your mind calibrated on something like that inflation rate - you have to adjust what is fair pay for a solid player up by over a million dollars per year. I wonder if that will make players gamble on themselves more and pass up some of these long, long term deals 6-7 years +?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 02:43 PM) My biggest problem with the logic here is the statement "little in the way of significant prospects". Lately when we've seen big contract guys move, the opposing team has still payed for them. The Dodgers wanted Adrian Gonzalez when he was fairly priced and they had to take on Carl Crawford's terrible deal to get him. The Blue Jays wanted Tulowitzki with a huge amount of money remaining and they gave up Hoffman in that deal. Cole Hamels had $100 million remaining on his deal when traded and the Rangers gave up a solid talent price for him - something like 4 players. The deals between the Rangers and Tigers moved big money guys and still had talent moving. That's my overall biggest problem with the concept - i don't think he moves for nearly as cheap as we want. I think the quoted asking prices of guys like Collins + Fulmer are dramatically less than they will actually need to move him even with that contract. Teams will pay a premium because this guy can make a difference for your roster right now, he can put you into the playoffs right now. That's worth a solid prospect price in addition to taking on his contract, and that doesn't make sense for the 2018 white Sox. To be fair, none of these guys had anywhere near the money committed as Stanton. That being said, you may be right - perhaps other teams will value him as being worth some significant package, and if that is the case, I tend to agree with you. I wouldn't make a move for him. The issue is and always will be, it only takes one sucker.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 11:23 AM) A guy signed for $700k and in the top 30 isn't a lottery ticket guy. That is more like Reynaldo Lopez who was a $10k signing. The rivisionist history here to pain the White Sox as ignorant of a guy they paid top dollar for is bizarre. Point taken, but still, a lot of guys are paid that kind of money and really end up being nothing. I think one of the kids the Mariners traded to the Marlins was a guy that signed for over $1M, and yet, no one really knows what they have in him yet.

It is truly amazing how much heroism human beings can show in the face of immense danger. And yet, many of us treat one another like complete s*** on a daily basis, under normal circumstances. Really an interesting juxtaposition of human nature.

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 11:16 AM) One thing I feel kinda sure of. Had Tatis Jr actually played on the field for some games prior to the trade it would have never happened. THe rumors about him began almost immediately for when he took the field. Preller is well known for getting some of these guys that are further away before other teams even know what it is they have. It was a mistake, but it was bound to happen sooner or later. The good thing is, Shields may actually become a serviceable SP next year, and if that helps this Club start developing a winning culture with this group of young kids, well, then at least we have that going for us, which is nice.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 4, 2017 -> 10:04 AM) This thought is worth a mention. If you are of the mindset that the White Sox won't be in the $300 million playas club, maybe you view a Stanton deal a little differently as a chance to get a guy like this on to your team. Well, unless they were to get Miami to eat some significant cash, that sort of implies that the White Sox are willing to be in such a club. The issue is that we've always been more apt to trade for players in bad contract situations than to hand them out ourselves. I like Stanton, and I think he will perform well as a White Sox, but I must admit, Harper/Machado/Arenado are the better gets, IMO. The problem is, obviously, the rest of the League likely feels very similarly. Machado and Harper will be in the same FA class; Arenado a year later. I think most folks think Harper will go the Yankees, and that is probably a fair guess. Machado, assuming he will stay at 3b, likely wouldn't be of interest to the Cubs or Dodgers. It is possible the Red Sox could move Devers off 3b, I suppose. Arenado will provide a potential alternative to someone who may have missed on Machado the year previously. Bottom line is, the White Sox, if they are willing to shell out $300 million, will likely be a solid destination for some of these guys, but you obviously risk getting none of them, or being forced to overpay. Acquiring Stanton allows you to get your man, at a known cost, for likely little in the way of significant prospects. It is a reasonable alternative. The other consideration on Stanton is he would be on the team beginning in '18, as opposed to '19 or '20. Is it possible this FO thinks adding Stanton next season makes them competitive in '18? Given the relative state of the AL right now, that may not be a terrible gamble to take. The more I think about it, you obviously kick the tires and see what the going rate is for Stanton, and if the price is very little in the way of prospects, or if Miami is willing to eat some cash for a reasonable package, I might be willing to take a shot.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 3, 2017 -> 12:09 PM) That's the problem. If he's worth the contract, it gets ripped up and you have to give him another one, or be smart enough to walk away. IMO, acquiring him, unless you are ready to win now or very soon, is something that can only blow up in your face. No matter what, you are going to be getting a player who eventually will be paid a lot of money to really suck. If he opts out of this contract it means this deal has gone very, very well for the Sox, barring some incredibly significant pieces going back to Miami. That said, I do not think it will take as much as some here might think. The one very interested party thus far has been San Francisco.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Oct 2, 2017 -> 11:55 AM) They've clarified that there was no shooting. Ahh thanks.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Oct 2, 2017 -> 09:07 AM) Glad you are safe Shack! Thanks, Russ. Heard rumors of a school shooting in Pahrump, NV, on the radio, although I haven't been able to find it online. Blood banks are overflowing...6-8 hour wait.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 2, 2017 -> 08:23 AM) Gun shows mostly. Definitely a lot of those out here.

QUOTE (Brian @ Oct 2, 2017 -> 07:56 AM) Is that two broken windows? Yes, apparently he either had a suite or perhaps adjoining rooms.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 2, 2017 -> 07:50 AM) iamshack declared himself safe on FB, so that is also good news I woke up and let my dogs out about 4:30.Heard some sirens and stuff but nothing too unusual. Checked my phone and saw people marking themselves "safe." Thinking what the hell? Then the texts and calls started coming. I'm just a few blocks from the medical district, where most of the victims have been taken. Pretty busy scene over here. Truly a shame. I've got no idea how people even obtain weapons like these.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 1, 2017 -> 08:45 AM) There is plenty of reason for them to "tank" next year, but not to this extent. A top 10 pick gives them protection for the following offseason, and that offseason is going to be a hell of a lot more important for them in the long run than this offseason. They will not be investing in much of anything as far as free agents go this year, but I could absolutely see the purse strings open up quite a bit following 2018. They are looking at maybe $40 million in commitments beyond the 2018 season, and that's if they keep everyone they currently have. They could easily trade Shields ($2 million buyout), Jones ($4.65 mill option, $1.25 mill buyout), and maybe Abreu (~$13 million) and Avisail (~$7 mill), while Rodon may not get the number I figured for him ($6 mill). Their payroll was like $150 million just a few years ago (B-R shows $170 million, but I don't recall the kickbacks from other teams, and that number seems high). They'll have money to spend. I fully expect us to be surprisingly competitive next season.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Sep 30, 2017 -> 03:06 PM) Nail on the head. Can't help it. I do remember in the days preceding his signing, that my NWSDA (Normal White Sox Defeatist Attitude) said to me that there was no way Sox could actually get that lucky and sign Abreu. Then it happened. Better than Christmas. Turned out Rockettes were second highest bidder. Abreu might have won a batting title there. Red Sox wanted him, but they were allegedly going to send him to AAA. So we got him, and I hope we extend him. I think the Rockies may have actually bid more.

QUOTE (Quin @ Sep 30, 2017 -> 08:56 AM) Isn't Japan infamous for running its pitchers into the ground? Read the article. It is his choice to pitch - he could be an everyday player if he wanted to be. He wants to do things that have never been done before, describing a desire to be a pioneer.

QUOTE (Quin @ Sep 30, 2017 -> 08:51 AM) ' Lmao, I was actually aboard the Abreu to the Sox train because it made feasible sense. Quin, Please explain to me how Otani leaving Japan now, instead of in two years, makes "feasible sense"?