quickman

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 08:13 AM) He is because he f***ing blows. Nick Masset might be a better reliever than David Weathers at this point. I think a pitcher comes with griffey, who I do not know, but there is alot going on with this. If konerko was hitting this would not be happening, way more to this right now.

this whole thign is becuase konerko is washed up. If konerko was hitting this would never happen. Konerko is done.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 31, 2008 -> 06:40 AM) That would be like paying 100 dollars for a single cheeseburger at McD's. Reds fans think that we just gave the Reds money for him, or a low level minor leaguer. NOBODY in baseball would trade Fields for Griffey, and if KW did it, he would be flamed uncontrollably. right now this thing makes no sense, unless something unless another is goign to happen very very soon. There is literally nowhere to play this guy. something else is happening.

This should not be looked at as just one position player taking the place of another. Swisher brings better defense to first base and andersen and wise better defense to center field. additionally, swisher can draw walks and provides the value of a switch hitter. Finally, with anderson and wise we become a faster, better baserunning team. Right now its the best move barring a trade. They should hire a therapist for konerko, and he needs to go back to his previous batting stance. if none of those thigns work, then he is done for this year.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 09:53 PM) STOP SWINGING AT THE FIRST f***ING PITCH CQ! didn't like his at bat? now you get my point.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 09:50 PM) The only reason I thought it could be true was how hard KW seemed to be working OC deals this last week. actaully it would not be because they wouldn't want the draft picks, that quite frankly is very silly. Its more like because they think he might accept it, at 12 million. If he accepts they are stuck with his crabby attitude. thats the reason. not the draft picks. The sox are in a tough spot with cabrera and crede. They would love to get rid of them but they can't, they are in it too late. they will have to eat those.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 09:45 PM) If the Sox were out of contention, we could probably get a fortune for Dotel. if the sox were out fo contention we would have traded cabrera, dotel, contreras, crede, maybe even vasquez. Could have made alot of people on this board happy with more brian andersen look alikes.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 09:40 PM) I'd bet he's not. I hope so my friend, I have a feeling that beckam might be more fit for third in a few years anyway. They also invested in Morel who I do not think will pan out, but I do think its a sign that Fields is or will be on the block. just have to get the right guy for him in return.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 09:40 PM) Ron Kittle Jr. IMO. yep agreed, which is why I think they want to trade him, but the guy got hurt, then crede got hurt. They got stuck, or else he would be gone.

i don't know why you would waste dotel here, you may need him the next two days.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 09:37 PM) Just an awful at bat by Fields. I'd rather just not have to watch him ever bat against RHP. get used to it, you will see him all year next year. He is a strikeout king with no glove.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 09:27 PM) I do but it didn't matter in the end if he made an unproductive out. Even with a s***ty at bat an out is still an out when we needed him to get on base. Yes I do understand that, but its not like it was a bad at bat. He could have been Konerko and grounded into a double play on the first pitch. My point simply was he battled through 13 pitches, it was a decent at bat, although the result still sucked. we all lose.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 09:25 PM) sorry q, I must have missed the question. What was it? Do you think the whitesox will lose tonight?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 09:18 PM) Konerko's had a horrible year, I don't think anyone defending him has said otherwise. My belief with him is his injuries have accounted for the big dropoff. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't buy Paul Konerko being a .210 hitter. My deal with Swisher is he has been awful yet people continue to stroke him. well personally I think its hits batting stance, he changed it in spring training, and he has sucked every since then. I realize injuries have somethign to do with it, but the guy is done. his fielding has taken a hit as well. We cannot afford him right now, and I think you will see ozzie give him one more week and then he will have a reduced role.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 09:19 PM) The point fathom made was since its not the starter thats in having a 13 pitch at bat doesn't matter against a guy who's only staying in for one inning. Only the hitter producing matters. yes I realize his point and thank you for answering for him, but apparently you do not understand my point. therefore I will wait for fathom to answer for me.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 09:13 PM) A little quick with the game over there Quickman. Well, all the momentum is with the twins right now, the sox have lost there way.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 09:13 PM) Who cares how many pitches you see from a one inning reliever? When you're trailing in the 7th inning, production is the only thing that matters. i am talking about the at bat not the relief pitcher.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 09:13 PM) He can have all the good at bats he wants, it be nice for him to get a hit on the roadtrip. same with konerko , who completely sucks as a baseball player. he needs a flipping shrink, and a lobotomy.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 09:10 PM) Swisher continues to suck. But hey, at least he saw a lot of pitches...ugh he took a pitcher to 13 pitches, thats a good at bat besides the fact he flew out. The twins basically have three guys on there team, and the sox continue to let those guys beat them. Thats the difference, Basically our single A pitcher against there best player. game over.

trying to stay out of the double play, but now he is dog tired.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 29, 2008 -> 06:05 PM) Huh? This is is second full season dude, what are you talking about. He has been getting on base his entire minor league career, and his first full season which was last year. Hatteberg had ONE season approach .900 OPS. Kotchman is a good young player. Kotchman last season (first full season) .296 .372 .840 Hatteberg career (13 years): .273 .361 .772 For s***s and giggles: Paul Konerko career: .277 .351 .838 What exactly is YOUR expectation from a major league first baseman? this was a great trade for the braves. Tex is a great player but they rid them selves of some salary and get a real good first baseman and a decent pitching prospect. Nice move.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 28, 2008 -> 03:28 PM) Meh, not as good a once was IMO. sorry Rock I will take Erin Andrews over her, in fact I would take some of the girls you used to have in your avatar over her.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 10, 2008 -> 08:51 PM) PK needs to stop swinging like a pussy. He's up there trying so hard to just hit it to right field. We're not paying him for one single a game. Hit the ball with some freaking authority. he came out of spring training with a new swing, for all i know that might have contributed to his latest injury, but his swing does suck right now. he either needs to make an adjustment or he needs to get benched. This guy is in the middle of the order and is no longer a long ball threat.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 10, 2008 -> 09:03 PM) To be honest, as long as we're in first after this wknd, I won't be too upset. agreed

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 10, 2008 -> 09:01 PM) Kinsler, Michael Young, and Hamilton are red hot. Hasn't Michael Young hit in like 29 of 30 games? 19 hits, unreal, and the angels are not a crap team, they can pitch a little bit.