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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 19, 2006 -> 10:09 AM) Are you so dense as to ignore the chairman's words that it was a message to the President? The message was Carter is worthy, you (Bush) are not. Plus you are confusing the primary reason versus an unintended or additional actions. You went on to say that Gore did nothing to deserve the prize, so I guess you would have to agree that Carter did do something? So maybe it wasn't just to send a message to Bush.
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QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Dec 19, 2006 -> 09:43 AM) But I guess he can still write a book, go on book signings and give interviews on CNN and such, thats not as strenuous for an old man as a debate would be. Carter sets hiimself up as an expert in writing a book, gets called on it by another person, and refuses to be held accountable. Just out of curiosity are you a big fan of Alan Dershowitz? Agree with his politics? It would seem that all of you that are calling Carter chicken must be big fans of Alan Dershowitz, hold him in the highest esteem, putting him on the same plane as a President. If a professor at Princeton challenged Carter, would the indictments be the same? And at what point would Carter have to stop debating? Any and all challengers?
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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 19, 2006 -> 08:32 AM) Yeah, I'm serious. I'm glad that your reaction is LOLHITTING! Mine is, too, oddly enough. Are you really this dense? What you are missing is Carter is a worthy recipient, Bush is not in the eyes of the committee. They could have given it to Al Gore or Bill Clinton and really stuck it to Bush. If you will read the rest of the information on his receiving the award they looked at his body of work since leaving office, it wasn't solely on the Middle East talks. The fact that the committee viewed the efforts that Carter followed as being worthy of an award, while those actions that Bush has taken are not, is not the same as saying they gave the award to Carter to stick it to Bush. They held up Carter's efforts as being noble, Bush's as not. And y'all think an eighty year old man should stand up and debate, that is still laughable in my view. Reagan was too old when he left office, but you expect that from Carter.
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I wonder if he will have to register as a sex offender. That could really mess that kid for life, and possibly so.
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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 18, 2006 -> 05:56 PM) Jimmy Carter won a Nobel Peace Prize out of spite. He wasn't given it because all of a sudden, thirty years later, the Nobel committee decided that Carter's Israel-Egypt negotiations were magnificent; he won it because they wanted to send a message to Boosh. Are you serious?
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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 16, 2006 -> 02:23 PM) My secret guess is someone told him that he would be their VP if he dropped out, and since Obama is from the next door state, I know who my guess would be. Could be, yet I wonder if that would have enough balance for the ticket. If he runs, and if he gets to the point of selecting a VP running mate, it will have to be someone with loads of experiece and credibility. So that would fit, I just wonder if geographic balance is an issue any more. Doesn't he need a Texan? Honestly I am not that excited about him running. I would feel better if this was 2012 and he had more experience and we had more of a chance to see him as an elected official. I believe the GOP is pumping up Hillary and Obama much more than the Dems. Either of those two would either have a huge groundswell sweeping them in, or zero traction. I don't see a close election night nail biter like the previous two.
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QUOTE(Brian @ Dec 16, 2006 -> 01:45 PM) Are we gonna have a "Catch-All Anything 2007" thread on Jan 1st? This is kinda big. We thought about it but decided the history was too great and kept the thread jumbo sized. The Top 5 Toys for Bad Kids (Part II) 5> Mr. Pot Head 4> Where in the World Are Carmen San Diego and Matt Lauer Shacking Up? board game 3> HungBob NoPants: A Girl's First Sex Doll 2> Li'l N'awlins Bathtub Playset and Topfive.com's Number 1 Toy for Bad Kids... 1> Heckle-Me Kramer Join ClubTop5 to see the whole 17-item list and the Runner Up/Honorable Mention submissions for today's list: "The Stockings Were Dung" and "Spazbro" http://www.topfive.com/html/ClubTop5.shtml
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QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 18, 2006 -> 02:17 AM) Apparently I wasn't clear. Jimmy Carter was the absolute worst president in my lifetime. Also want to mention that the respect for presidents must not include current ones. At least not around here. I guess you aren't as old as I thought. And so much for your opinion on needing religion in our lives. He was easily the most truly religious President of the group. Unlike every other one in my lifetime, he actually walked the walk. He stayed involved in his faith long after it wasn't just for politics sake.
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QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Dec 17, 2006 -> 11:07 PM) As for respect, he needs to show the office a little respect himself. Reagan after leaving office went and gave a little speech in Japan for US$3,000,000. Carter went and built homes and championed for human rights around the globe. I am forgetting, and it's late, what did Carter earn a Nobel prize for? I guess that broght disrespect to the office. QUOTE(mr_genius @ Dec 17, 2006 -> 11:20 PM) Cindy Sheehan isn't a scholar and expert on a controversial book former president Bush wrote. What would they debate? "NO BLOOD FOR OIL!" or some other slogan she has learned? Bush would kill her in a debate, so why would he be afraid? Why would he be chicken? YASNY, worse in your lifetime? Worse than Ford? Nixon?
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QUOTE(NUKE @ Dec 17, 2006 -> 10:45 PM) There you go again trying to apply the Constitution to FOREGINERS. That is NON-CITIZENS, PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT AMERICANS!!!! Do you think people dont notice when you make insane statements like that? Do you think people don't notice when you make insane statements like that? I've already said, they don't fit in either. But if we are going to try them in a military court, then we've started calling them military, and should go all the way. That is the most noble thing to do. As the world's moral authority and bastion of human rights we should be showing the world the American ideal. We should not be acting like the third world despots we are fighting. IIRC we are fighting in Iraq because a dictator tortured people and held them without basic human rights. We need to do one or the other, but doing neither makes us look like the biggest hypocrites in the world.
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Great career. Class act.
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QUOTE(RME JICO @ Dec 16, 2006 -> 03:29 PM) New version is posted here: http://www.pcgamingtech.net/downloads/whitesox.xpi After saving it, just use File > Open File from Firefox to install it after you download it. It will install on the top File bar next to the Help. Please let me know if you have any problems. *Latest Changes/12-16-06* - Updated for Firefox 2.0 - Removed Dead Links - Updated Roster - Added news links (Cot's Contracts, Coolstandings) Ok, I have to add Hall and drop Alomar. Thanks, I missed that when I upgraded Firefox
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QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Dec 17, 2006 -> 10:24 PM) But but but, he's a liberal so it's funnier to go after him! He was no Ford and his WIN buttons, perhaps the greatest economic strategy ever.
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QUOTE(NUKE @ Dec 16, 2006 -> 01:27 PM) Agreed. This scumbag needs to be busted out of his job and clapped in irons. This is about the most outrageous abuse of authority I've ever seen. Wel said. While there are dangers in note taking action, and all reports of crimes should be pursued, if he lied and ignored DNA evidence, he should be outta there in a heartbeat.
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Interesting, if the former President Bush was challenged to a debate by Cindy Sheehan, would he be chicken for not responding? GMAB people. The lack of respect for Presidents is appalling. I don't think any of you would have been saying this if Reagan turned down a challenge from someone. And say what you will about Carter, but he has lived a very noble life. I believe he has walked the talk for many decades. Could you imagine Reagan building homes for poor people? Traveling the world to monitor elections. I am far prouder of Carter than anyone that followed him.
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QUOTE(NUKE @ Dec 16, 2006 -> 01:26 PM) There you go again trying to apply the Constitution to FOREGINERS. That is NON-CITIZENS, PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT AMERICANS!!!! Do you think people dont notice when you make insane statements like that? Nuke, when a foreign national commits a crime on US soil, they do receive all the rights of a US citizen. They receive a a fair trial, They are allowed an attorney, we basically have always had one set of rules for anyone in our courts. Just as Americans who are held in foreign jails are usually treated like citizens of that country not of the US. So while all your caps and outrage is kind of funny, it isn't really a factor. It is outrageous that we either arrested non-military people and are charging then with crimes committed on foreign soil and want to try them in military courts. Or we captured enemy soldiers and don't want to give them the Geneva protection we agreed to.
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And his career will forever be linked with Hawk. I thought it was a dumb move then, and still do.
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wtf? I can't believe you used those exact words. I also can't imagine the words she did use. Perhaps I'm going to lay here naked and have your dog hump me like a USB dog from Japan . . .
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A couple times in my life these lyrics absolutly fit my mood, my situation.
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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 15, 2006 -> 02:48 PM) Because one side won't move from their "hugs not Jihad" platfom, and the other won't move off of "kill em all and let God sort em out." because they know they will be blasted for changing their minds. Oh, I'm so blind Oh, I'm blind I wasted time Wasted, wasted, all too much time Walkin' on the wire, high wire But I must let the show go on Baby, I wish you'd help me escape Help me get away Leave me outside my address Far away from this masquerade 'Cause I've been blind Oh, so blind I wasted time Wasted, wasted, all too much time Walkin' on the wire, high wire But I must let the show go.. I must let the show go.. I must let the show go on
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QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 15, 2006 -> 02:33 PM) And so, even if this Democrat Congress can find its way to pass a law regarding the future of these people (which seems unlikely), Bush would likely veto anyway. This the sort of issue where Bush could choose to be the "uniter" instead of the "decider", and find a way to get the military tribunals he wants with the basic protections that Congress would likely want. I crack myself up. Yet, that is exactly what makes the most sense to me. Why is it we can't take the best of both parties and do something right?
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QUOTE(kapkomet @ Dec 15, 2006 -> 02:26 PM) Yes, the Republicans screwed up on this. There's a way that this can be done that complies with laws... they've said as much, so go get it done that way, so everyone can move on. While that may git'r done for this group, the US and the International community of normal countries needs to devise a system that works for these people. I don't like having their home countries try them, I don't trust countries that house and train terrorists. (Duh) I don't like giving them the same respect a true military person deserves (although it's as close as we have under current laws), and I don't believe civilian courts have the scope to handle this. So we need another option and it needs to be written into the current treaties we have around the world.
