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QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Dec 19, 2006 -> 05:10 PM) I don't read other people's posts... why was Teddy Roosevelt hanging in your office for many a year? A genie granted me a wish and I asked for dead Presidents to cover my walls . . .

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Dec 19, 2006 -> 04:26 PM) Even when some of the elections he certifies are considered to be almost invalid because of the amount of corruption involved? If he champions human rights but sucks at actually accomplishing anything (in the human rights department), does that make it ok because his intention was in the right place? He probably got the award as much for trying to be opposite of Bush as he did for his charity work, which is a shame because it almost overshadows his good work after leaving office. He should have let Habitat be his legacy and left it at that. The challenges will take more than one man. In reading your post I am reminded of a quote by Theodore Roosevelt which hung in my office for many a year. "It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." "Citizenship in a Republic," Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910

Wishing a Merry Christmas to you and yours.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 19, 2006 -> 02:50 PM) What the hell. I'm going to throw this out there. If you enjoy the timeless classics like As Time Goes By or Fly Me To The Moon then the album by T. G. Sheppard called 'Classic Love Songs' is great. It is very richly orchestrated and Sheppard sings the tunes without the Sinatra type flair. 'In other words' he sings the songs as they were written without trying to jazz them up. If you like the old standards, give it a listen. Great call. I was going to be the lone voice for George Strait's Somewhere Down in Texas

QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Dec 19, 2006 -> 11:03 AM) I saw him cutting down acres of Rainforest to build a chain of Ruby Tuesdays!! That's going to put them out of business, so good bye Ruby Tue. . .* *damn, even I can't stoop to that low a pun.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 19, 2006 -> 01:00 PM) I suppose that works. But I'm skeptical of all awards handed out by panels. There's a case for Carter...thirty years ago. Today, it isn't a "recognition" as much as a political prize. I'll agree with the first comment, but this is the mother of all panels. Number two, I have to agree again that there was a case thirty years ago however, his post-Presidency accomplishments are greater than during his Presidency or at the minimum added on top of them. I can't think of any other American who has traveled the globe as intensively in the name of peace and democracy. While others have lined their pockets, played in pro-ams on the PGA tour, or any other retirement activities, he remained active and used his platform as an American President, to champion human rights around the world. He was a much more worthy pick in 2003.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2074344,00.asp

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 19, 2006 -> 01:45 PM) Probably something pretty close to the second figure. We are still in the "vision" stage of determining what our "dreams" are before we start to figure out what they would cost, but a really loose estimate was $1-$2 million. I haven't been to the board of directors meeting yet, or to talk to the finance committee, so I have no real idea of the logisitics here. I was at the facilities committee meeting last night, and we had just started talking about what we wanted to do to transform a mid 1960's facility into something for the 21st century. One thing I have seen proved time and time again, is having the vision of what you will use the money for transforms the fund raiser. The "all we can get" does not work. Once you have the money figure in mind try and ascertain how wide you have to cast your net. If the amount and your location/resources are such that you believe one person/foundation has the resources to fill your needs, go ask and away you go. Some situations are like that. At the other end of the scale of needs, have Pres. Bush and Clinton raising money worldwide is what it takes. Don't cast the net any wider than you will need. I like the "let's not go" black tie gala. If you are nice, I may just let you in on the details.

I purposely mentioned the monetary investment because people are more likely to acquire free music than free DVDs or books.

Mike I have done many fund raisers. What is the dollar goal? What has the group done in the past? How many people are involved (paid staff/volunteers)? What resources do you have? The key is first adding up all the resources, and especially don't forget people and their hidden talents. Right now I am in the middle of a small fundraiser that we are projecting will earn us $45,000. That is much different than a $2,000,000 capital campaign. So what are we talking?

mimes.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 19, 2006 -> 10:09 AM) Are you so dense as to ignore the chairman's words that it was a message to the President? The message was Carter is worthy, you (Bush) are not. Plus you are confusing the primary reason versus an unintended or additional actions. You went on to say that Gore did nothing to deserve the prize, so I guess you would have to agree that Carter did do something? So maybe it wasn't just to send a message to Bush.

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Dec 19, 2006 -> 09:43 AM) But I guess he can still write a book, go on book signings and give interviews on CNN and such, thats not as strenuous for an old man as a debate would be. Carter sets hiimself up as an expert in writing a book, gets called on it by another person, and refuses to be held accountable. Just out of curiosity are you a big fan of Alan Dershowitz? Agree with his politics? It would seem that all of you that are calling Carter chicken must be big fans of Alan Dershowitz, hold him in the highest esteem, putting him on the same plane as a President. If a professor at Princeton challenged Carter, would the indictments be the same? And at what point would Carter have to stop debating? Any and all challengers?

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 19, 2006 -> 08:32 AM) Yeah, I'm serious. I'm glad that your reaction is LOLHITTING! Mine is, too, oddly enough. Are you really this dense? What you are missing is Carter is a worthy recipient, Bush is not in the eyes of the committee. They could have given it to Al Gore or Bill Clinton and really stuck it to Bush. If you will read the rest of the information on his receiving the award they looked at his body of work since leaving office, it wasn't solely on the Middle East talks. The fact that the committee viewed the efforts that Carter followed as being worthy of an award, while those actions that Bush has taken are not, is not the same as saying they gave the award to Carter to stick it to Bush. They held up Carter's efforts as being noble, Bush's as not. And y'all think an eighty year old man should stand up and debate, that is still laughable in my view. Reagan was too old when he left office, but you expect that from Carter.

I wonder if he will have to register as a sex offender. That could really mess that kid for life, and possibly so.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Dec 18, 2006 -> 05:56 PM) Jimmy Carter won a Nobel Peace Prize out of spite. He wasn't given it because all of a sudden, thirty years later, the Nobel committee decided that Carter's Israel-Egypt negotiations were magnificent; he won it because they wanted to send a message to Boosh. Are you serious?

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 16, 2006 -> 02:23 PM) My secret guess is someone told him that he would be their VP if he dropped out, and since Obama is from the next door state, I know who my guess would be. Could be, yet I wonder if that would have enough balance for the ticket. If he runs, and if he gets to the point of selecting a VP running mate, it will have to be someone with loads of experiece and credibility. So that would fit, I just wonder if geographic balance is an issue any more. Doesn't he need a Texan? Honestly I am not that excited about him running. I would feel better if this was 2012 and he had more experience and we had more of a chance to see him as an elected official. I believe the GOP is pumping up Hillary and Obama much more than the Dems. Either of those two would either have a huge groundswell sweeping them in, or zero traction. I don't see a close election night nail biter like the previous two.

QUOTE(Brian @ Dec 16, 2006 -> 01:45 PM) Are we gonna have a "Catch-All Anything 2007" thread on Jan 1st? This is kinda big. We thought about it but decided the history was too great and kept the thread jumbo sized. The Top 5 Toys for Bad Kids (Part II) 5> Mr. Pot Head 4> Where in the World Are Carmen San Diego and Matt Lauer Shacking Up? board game 3> HungBob NoPants: A Girl's First Sex Doll 2> Li'l N'awlins Bathtub Playset and Topfive.com's Number 1 Toy for Bad Kids... 1> Heckle-Me Kramer Join ClubTop5 to see the whole 17-item list and the Runner Up/Honorable Mention submissions for today's list: "The Stockings Were Dung" and "Spazbro" http://www.topfive.com/html/ClubTop5.shtml

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 18, 2006 -> 02:17 AM) Apparently I wasn't clear. Jimmy Carter was the absolute worst president in my lifetime. Also want to mention that the respect for presidents must not include current ones. At least not around here. I guess you aren't as old as I thought. And so much for your opinion on needing religion in our lives. He was easily the most truly religious President of the group. Unlike every other one in my lifetime, he actually walked the walk. He stayed involved in his faith long after it wasn't just for politics sake.

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Dec 17, 2006 -> 11:07 PM) As for respect, he needs to show the office a little respect himself. Reagan after leaving office went and gave a little speech in Japan for US$3,000,000. Carter went and built homes and championed for human rights around the globe. I am forgetting, and it's late, what did Carter earn a Nobel prize for? I guess that broght disrespect to the office. QUOTE(mr_genius @ Dec 17, 2006 -> 11:20 PM) Cindy Sheehan isn't a scholar and expert on a controversial book former president Bush wrote. What would they debate? "NO BLOOD FOR OIL!" or some other slogan she has learned? Bush would kill her in a debate, so why would he be afraid? Why would he be chicken? YASNY, worse in your lifetime? Worse than Ford? Nixon?

QUOTE(NUKE @ Dec 17, 2006 -> 10:45 PM) There you go again trying to apply the Constitution to FOREGINERS. That is NON-CITIZENS, PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT AMERICANS!!!! Do you think people dont notice when you make insane statements like that? Do you think people don't notice when you make insane statements like that? I've already said, they don't fit in either. But if we are going to try them in a military court, then we've started calling them military, and should go all the way. That is the most noble thing to do. As the world's moral authority and bastion of human rights we should be showing the world the American ideal. We should not be acting like the third world despots we are fighting. IIRC we are fighting in Iraq because a dictator tortured people and held them without basic human rights. We need to do one or the other, but doing neither makes us look like the biggest hypocrites in the world.

Great career. Class act.

QUOTE(RME JICO @ Dec 16, 2006 -> 03:29 PM) New version is posted here: http://www.pcgamingtech.net/downloads/whitesox.xpi After saving it, just use File > Open File from Firefox to install it after you download it. It will install on the top File bar next to the Help. Please let me know if you have any problems. *Latest Changes/12-16-06* - Updated for Firefox 2.0 - Removed Dead Links - Updated Roster - Added news links (Cot's Contracts, Coolstandings) Ok, I have to add Hall and drop Alomar. Thanks, I missed that when I upgraded Firefox