Texsox

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 04:29 PM) Sometimes you gotta get some dirt on your hands if you want the job done. When the end was ridding the world of Soviet Communisim its pretty hard to find means that aren't justifiable. Some of our friends on the payroll included Bin Laden, Hussein, Noriega, and lesser known, but no less evil people of all races and creeds. I'm not convinced we are any safer with the fall of the Soviet Union.

Bozo circus, now that was a scary place. Let's just start with the relay race where boys had to put on dresses and heels and run.

Ahh, the Halcion® days when we thought we had a rotation to rival the Braves of the 1990s. Mark, Freddy, Jon, Jose, and ol' what's his name were going to be around for years and years making us a perennial WS favorite. Best of luck to you Freddy. I bet you will be back.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 04:17 PM) you know its a slow offseason when there's three f***ing pages of Runelvys Hernandez talk. three pages? check your board settings and move them up if you have broadband. 50 per page is nice. I'm not close to excited about a guy who never was for a season. Flashes are nice, but at his age, sign him to help down on the farm(s), but if he sniffs the 25-man for an extended stint, we are probably in trouble.

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 03:59 PM) "While many feel the situation in Iraq is an unwinnable one, the President still stands firm in his belief that the United States will prevail. However, his view may be in the minority when compared to the rest of the country." There was a different way to say it without trying to slam the President. We get it, you don't like Bush, think he is dumb, think he is the devil, Hitler, whatever. I like your version better. Of course we both know that Rush would attack that and show a pretty map that shows most of the country agrees with Bush and call this media bias.

Hell, she was out of the news until this. Will she ever go away?

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 03:54 PM) If I'm on that plane, I'm going make damn sure someone knows what those jackasses are doing before that plane leaves the ground. I don't care who likes it or not. Perhaps Northside is right that now the terrorists have won if we react to all people of Middle Eastern looks with suspicion and react as YASNY states he will. But, there is danger in the other extreme. Ignoring obvious threats because they are middle eastern and not wanting to offend, is just as dangerous. What the Imams did IMO, is a modern day "the sky is falling". While we can't single someone out simply by how they look, their actions are suspicious. And before the question is raised, suspicions are raised when people see something out of place or unusual. Their actions certainly were unusual. I've flown literally tens of thousands of miles and I have never witnessed a group prayer like this, of any faith. We are told to report suspicious activity to the proper authorities. I'm with YAS, I would report it. I would also expect the authorities to act in the proper manner and with all due respect for the innocent people being questioned.

I'm smelling two wrongs here. When the police do this poorly, they call it entrapment. From reading the articles, my guess is the Imams knew their behavior would be viewed as suspicious and pushed those buttons. I think that is wrong, and harmful to the greater good of our society. The airline and the passengers took the bait, and acted in a manner which showed some prejudice towards the Imams. While I dislike prejudice and bigotry, I dislike even more people creating situations and then suing. Two wrongs do not make a right.

Torture is the only way to get the truth

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QUOTE(Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 01:20 PM) Interesting discussion. I think another form of bias is what is considered news in the first place. Most of the time the stories that are covered aren't really news at all. Laci Peterson is the greatest example of whats wrong with this country. Is it said that she was killed? Absolutely. Did it need a year of complete, 24/7 coverage? Hell no. Compound that with the 'Do Nothing Congress' passing the Laci Peterson Act in like two weeks, even though they couldn't get anything important done in two whole years. I think now that money is involved and cable news is so big, 'news' is being created by the media. Whatever sells papers/commercials is considered news. Everything else is just everyday life that doesn't matter, even though it should. Good points. The media has a tightrope to walk, tell a story and no follow up and they get slammed, too much follow up and they get slammed. The biggest evil is they are competing for money. Money that comes from readership and ratings. The Soviet Union solved all this by creating their own state run media. Unbiased coverage directly from the source. Can't get any better than that. I believe, overall, the media is honest and principled at it's core. Some outlets use a reporting style that attracts a more mature audience, others a younger, likewise for other demographics including conservatives and liberals. But politicians are trying so hard to have the citizens reject anything negative about them by shooting the messenger. That is far more dangerous to our country than if the wording was slightly left or right of center.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 10, 2006 -> 12:44 AM) I was wondering if anyone would know wtf I was talking about. And thanks for the link. Haven't seen that in years. Ray Rayner Rulz!!!!!! Those both are so cool.

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 12:50 PM) Tex, it is biased when the reporter interjects opinion into it. When Clinton scolded the nation with his 'i didn't screw monica' rant, did Brit Hume report that 'Clinton is talking crazy-talk there', or 'I don't know what Kool-aid he's drinking, but maybe he should share'? No, they didn't. She was interjecting her opinion when Bush said that he thought we could still win. He not only drank the Kool-aide but made it' inplies that SHE thinks not only is he nuts, but it is his own doing. And while that OPINION may be true, it does not belong in the news, from a REPORTER. And yes, there are many instinces where the lines are blurred, but when you sign off 'reporting from the white house', that sounds pretty clear what it was supposed to be. The phrase drinking the Koolaid, is, by itself, distasteful, but I guess most people using it do not know the circumstances that brought this into the lexicon. There are better ways to say that President Bush believes the lies he has told. How would you make that statement in a non-biased way? Would you have objected to the phrase "President Bush now seems to believe the information he has told"? And I'll bet if we searched all the stories about Clinton, we'd have found plenty of examples that mirror this. Almost everything that is reporter is opinion. Take this phrase In a bloody firefight this morning twelve soldiers died . . . Shall we change bloody? Is firefight too graphic? should we say murdered? should we say heroic death? should we mention somewhere all the people that didn't die?

Does anyone really talk to their brooms and mops? In an informal survey of daytime tv advertising, companies seem to think the public has an average IQ hovering around room temperature. What makes a successful advertising campaign with you?

I think many people confuse stories about when "their" candidate does something wrong as biased. As soon as their candidate screws up, it's biased coverage. It is also impossible to balance every story, every issue. During something like the Monica Lewinsky affair, there just wasn't enough positive news to ever balance the coverage that Clinton was getting.

Anyone like the juxtaposition of the pitch black restaurant and the need for extra small condoms? Just trying to package the news for those that may need extra small condoms. Those condoms will be $3.99 plus tacks. Plus tacks, you mean tax?! That's to help them stay on Mr. Patel . . .

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Dec 11, 2006 -> 09:27 AM) yeah, let's get into a battle about relationships. smart plan there, Tex. Who referenced relationships? I was battling about sex.

Since we are talking "most valuable",. I'd go with the one inning wonder . . . I still get goosebumps. That was an effort worth remembering.

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QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Dec 10, 2006 -> 10:58 PM) WTF Bate? Virgin

Happy Birthday!

Enemies of our enemies are our friends. The list of people we have backed is truly embarrassing today. I know in some cases it is the lesser of two evils, but during that era we really picked some bad men to support.

The lines have been blurred on both sides, reporters and consumers. The consumer actually is showing strong trends for not wanting pure news. They prefer to find a news show that mirrors their values. Fox News didn't gain ratings because they are fair and unbiased, they appear fair and unbiased to conservatives. Other networks appear fair and unbiased to liberals. Evil and I could watch the same truly unbiased news show and find bias all over the place, but each would be pointing to different stories. More interesting is I've read more and more where people claim they get all their news from Rush, Air America, or whatever. And, (speaking for shows like Rush, Hannity, etc.) perhaps getting news in this fashion isn't the worst thing in the world. The issues are complex, so packaging the news story with an editorial and tossing in letters to the editor is convenient and fast. And that is basically what talk radio shows are. Here is the news story (front page), here is what we think about it (editorial page), and here is what the public thinks (letters to the editor). Getting back to this style of reporting, beginning forty years ago ratings became important to network news. No longer was the news departments insulated from any monetary pressures. Then the world started to change. Entertainment value crept in. A truly unbiased newscast would get zero ratings. The language would be so neutral it would sound like something that FlaSoxxJim would read to his grad students to put them to sleep at night. Conservatives would think the news was too liberal, liberals would think it was too conservative, and both would be right. And to the KoolAid question. I'm not certain of the subject, but if it was something he said, then in fact he did make the koolaid. That would be accurate. Read all the accounts of the Monica affair. If someone screws up,the article will not appear unbiased. You have to report negatives as negatives and positives as positives.

Just wondering how many people here have a cap from another mlb team besides the Sox. I honestly think the last non Sox cap I've owned was a Cleveland Indians cap from when I was 9 and played on the Indians Little League Team.