Texsox

I've been thinking about what would have happened if this unfolded today. There would likely been no negoatiations, no Algiers Accord, maybe a better plan for a military rescue. I don't believe we have advanced much in our dealings with terrorists in the past 20-25 years.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 11:51 AM) Want to know exactly where heaven is, a cure for cancer, and how to acheive world peace? CLICK HERE!!! He does have a 100% positive feedback rating

I think the league got too big and it was divided and someone had fun writing the story. I love the names, Dennys Grand Slam, 1040 Slashers, etc. BTW, it's legit, Wall Street Journal and a Seattle Times have run the story. From friends of mine that have worked D.C. it's an industry town, everyone works in the industry, and there is a lot more comradery than you'd expect.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 11:03 AM) I suppose it was inevitable, with the demands, protests, boycotts, and the like that the idiots were going to start to get involved. Some extreme groups are now promoting violence against immigrants. http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/immigrat...ions=sHeading_1 It's amazing how big a voice fourteen people and a web site can have. :headshake No matter what a person's views are, all decent Americans know this is wrong.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 11:53 AM) moderately challenging tasks . . . tying my shoes Now I understand why you use a MAC

QUOTE(samclemens @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 12:05 PM) tex. you are saying that carter shouldnt get all the blame for that screwup because they planned it. i havent seen you extend our current president the same courtesy, why is that? how you can honestly defend carter is beyond me...he was the worst modern prez in our country's history, and his iran decision has adversely and directly affected our current situation with iran. to me that is indisputable. Show me where I blamed Bush for any of the hostages that have been killed? I have extended that same courtesy to Bush as I would any President.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 10:23 AM) I think if anything, Carter does deserve some blame for going forwards with a very risky, highly complex, and poorly planned mission which had a very high probability of failure without making sure he was adequately informed on the mission and its probabilities of failure. He also deserves blame for letting impatience get the best of him, since they rightfully rejected that plan before, but then went ahead with it anyway after their patience wore thin. Risky? Any mission was going to be highly risky. No way around it. Complex? Again, operating half way around the world, I don't think there would be a simple solution. If there was, somewhere in the halls of the Pentagon and CIA, it would have been thought of. Poorly planned? I'm not certain what you are basing that on. IIRC, this plan had been worked out and practiced in a secret location. I think our military, operating on the knowledge of the day, had the best plan possible. But we really will never know. We never got that far. A sandstorm caused the mission to be aborted. High probability of failure? Possibly, but it was decided by the Pentagon and everyone else, it was the best of the group. I believe any plan had a high probability of failure, which is why one wasn't tried until diplomatic avenues were running out. In the immediate aftermath, I never heard a better plan proposed. I don't think it was patience, but I've read some compelling stuff that politics and getting re-elected factored into the timing. I've also read Pentagon sources that claim other wise, it was procedural and training issues that delayed along with moon phase and the captors patterns. I wonder how it would have played out today? No negotiations. More violent terorrists. I am pessimistic that it would have turned out as well. I see a lot more body bags, and isn't that the bottom line?

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 08:34 AM) You've got to be kidding. What are you blaming Carter for? A bad military plan? Maintenance on the choppers? Weather? Soldiers failing to execute the plan? A helicopter clipping a C-130? The second guessing could be, was this the best approach? A miitary or diplomatic solution. Adding additional, and greater, violence into the equation should be weighed carefully and I believe it was. After holding off on a military strike, the decision was made to go ahead. I think that was a good decision at the time. After the mission was aborted, due to a sudden sandstorm, a helicopter clipped a C-130 taking off, resulting in the deaths of eight servicemen. I find it hard to blame the President for that. I believe we had out best possible people involved, the Air Force and Marines and am saddened for the eight servicemen who died in the mission. I don't think the Presidents decides who participates, plus it was a volunteer mission. In the end, the Algiers Accords resulted in the release of the hostages, alive. I think it is unfair to say unharmed, because anyone held hostage for 444 days, will be harmed. Sadly, we are better prepared today for this type of event. We have worked more missions and battles in the desert, have better technology, better resources in Arab countries, better understanding of the terrorist mind. Yet, hostages are killed regularly in that corner of the world. Perhaps, in hindsight, we did a much better job in 1979 than we thought.

We all have those weird quirks, if you don't think you do, just ask a friend I just noticed I always make certain the eggs in the egg carton are position towards the center so it balances in your hand. If you take from just one end, it gets heavy towards one side. How I arrived at that habit is beyond me.

I think it is wonderful that Apple and AOL have made computing accessible to the masses.

QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Apr 26, 2006 -> 08:44 PM) He's had a problems in the past, too. The Devil Rays need to give him a 40 game suspension and send a message. The guy is one hell of a talent. I'm guessing it will be the league jumping in here, and I imagine it will be a stiff fine and suspension. He may be ready physically, but if he can't control himself and is throwing a bat at the umpire, he's got some growing between the ears to do. I believe the difference between a AAA and MLB talent wise is razor thin, it's attitude and mental abilities that can make the difference for most players.

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 08:03 AM) And if workers take off to 'protest' without getting permission from their employers first, I hope they all get fired, fined, reprimanded, suspended, whatever. I have to agree with Evil on this one. The key being permission. I would also hope that most employers count this as a vacation day, personal day, sick day, etc. But give them the time off, where possible, and following accepted company rules. How about a national take the job of an illegal day? Have documented, legal workers that could be picking fruit, mowing lawns, busing tables, apply for those jobs and show the employers that there are millions of workers available, ready and willing to work.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 27, 2006 -> 07:47 AM) Then buy an IBM (or Lenovo or whatever they want to call it). They aren't too exciting in design, and they are a bit pricey, but you will get quality. I never had a quality problem, it's been design issues. Placement of stuff. I thought I would like the joystick thingy stuck in the keyboard on I think it was the Toshiba, not. I thought I liked the drives up front, until I was on an airplane and had to suck in my gut to get a CD in. This HP has the USB ports right next to the power connection. The power connection is a right angle connector and it blocks the ports if it isn't moved to the side. Stuff like that. I actually have been impressed with the quality of every laptop I've owned. I will probably go IBM next, I never seem to buy the same brand twice.

Thank you. I knew there had to be something out there and my google searches were not working. Those fees are a little hefty if she is putting small amounts in, I'm going to have to figure out if that's worth it. $4.95 for very deposit. If she is only putting in $20, that would suck.

QUOTE(DABearSoX @ Apr 26, 2006 -> 10:29 PM) I worked at RadioShack last year and they have pre loaded credit cards. I forgot what they were called exactly, but I beleive they were mastercard endorsed. The plus was that you can reload them at the radioshack store with cash or by phone. Even better, closer to home than the Wells Fargo branch. Was there a fee?

I know I sleep better knowing Grenada can't invade us. And I think Ford and his Whip Inflation Now; WIN! Campaign was genious As some people know, unlike third world dictatorships, the US President doesn't fire the military and replace them with all new people. Carter did not plan that strategic rescue mission, the military did, the same ones that were there when Ford was President and when Reagan was President. I believe the Commander in Chief gets far too much credit for operational planning. The military had a plan that they thought would have the best chance of freeing the hostages. Carter gave the military the green light. Should he have been on the mission? Should he personally have done the planning?

:headshake

I have found something to dislike about every laptop I have owned. From a Sony through a Toshiba, a Dell and now a couple HPs. Drive placement. missing ports (I need a serial port now). This one has a crappy power plug that comes loose too easily and blocks the USB connectors.

QUOTE(knightni @ Apr 25, 2006 -> 11:31 PM) that's why I gave you some smileys remember, if you've seen one, you've seen them both.

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Apr 26, 2006 -> 09:59 PM) Don't some banks still offer secured credit cards with spending limits set at the level which you deposit? You can put whatever amount in you want. It would not be tied to an existing bank account, but simply become an account of its own. If I understood you correctly, this is different than what you were describing. Would this give you what you are looking for?? My bank was trying to sell me on Visa Buxx, their program for teen spending. Problem is if she wanted to deposit into her card, she would have to give me the money and I would have to transfer. No big deal, really but not exactly what I had in mind. IIUC the secure card could not be in her name because she is 15. It appears that a competing bank had Visa Gift Cards that could work if I understand the program.

QUOTE(samclemens @ Apr 26, 2006 -> 05:20 PM) are you kidding?? drudge has a great site, i enjoy it a lot. hes not as sleazy as you think. politics aside, you can find political news first on his site some of the time. f***, Sam and I agree on something. His web site is more about links and finding stories. I use it as one of my homepages.

BTW, is this news? Really? On the scale of things to cover, is some gym teacher really worth the ink?

QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 26, 2006 -> 01:35 PM) The racist angle is not the one I was getting at. The double standard is what I was pointing out. But ... I'll give you your point about mocking presidents. I think it's the same standard, the reactions would be reversed and the same. No one likes "their" guy getting mocked. Again, I think it was rude, and would think it was rude if it was Chelsea in a similar situation. And actually if the situation was reversed, and the press reported that some teacher mocked Clinton while Chelsea was in the class, I believe the political views of the news agency would have been called into question. Some would claim that this was a minor situation, in an exercise class and the press was bringing it up to make someone look bad.

That is pretty cool. I'm waiting for the cell phone merging. This geo caching is a great excuse to get outside and play The places and ways people think to hide stuff is amazing.

Wow