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QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Apr 14, 2006 -> 07:26 AM) Well now I know who to PM when I am in hot water Everyone else does. With so many different personalities and posting styles, it is a tough job to be fair to everyone. BTW, IMHO, it isn't fair to treat everyone equally. Someone who has been posting here for a couple years, has a thousand posts, and happens to go off on someone, is treated differently than someone with a couple hundred posts and this is their third time in trouble. I guess with over 3,000 screen names created and millions of posts here, and a plethora of new sites, Jason and his crew must be doing something right, which in many cases means ignoring the Patron Saint of Lost Causes, me

QUOTE(Steff @ Apr 14, 2006 -> 07:08 AM) I lived in the insane Florida heat for 9 years. I'm well aware of it, the fact that I don't like it, and what I prefer. It isn't for anyone. Here, the wind is more a nuisance for me. Don't get me wrong, I dislike 103 for weeks on end. I just can't take the extreme cold anymore. I look at some of my ice fishing gear and wonder how I ever survived camping on the ice for a weekend. That kind of cold would kill me now. When I first moved here I laughed when the temps hit 40 and they were opening up warming shelters everywhere. I put on a light jacket and wondered what all the fuss was about. Now 60 degrees and I'm bundled up like an idiot cursing the "cold". I am certain if I ever move back north, I will wonder how I ever survived 105. And Steff, is it the capris year round that would cause the problem

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Apr 14, 2006 -> 06:45 AM) Oh I totally agree with that. I was just kind of surprised because Soxtalk has a quick and loud grapevine. Usually you hear from somebody that it happened. And IIRC, he was banned shortly after the infamous "Should Juggs be banned" poll, so I was curious if he actually blew a fuse. Ah well, no big deal. Its not like I need him questioning my life in a roundabout way anymore. The poll had nothing to do with the decision. In general, I am usually the Patron Saint of Lost Causes. There is always healthy discussions with several differing opinions before any action is taken. It is probably as fair a shake as anyone could ever hope to get in real life.

QUOTE(Steff @ Apr 14, 2006 -> 06:53 AM) No way do I want it that hot. It's miserable. You can't take off your skin! At least in the cold you can put more clothes on to get comfortable. It is what you become use to. Bundled up in a parka, boots, gloves, hats, and having your cheeks frozen and finger's numb isn't my idea of fun anymore. And for the extremes, it's the same, air conditioned home to air conditioned car to air conditioned office. Same as Chicago in the winter. I also appreciate the casual dress that heat encourages. The only suit I wear anymore is a swim suit.

Iowa offers a nice view of Chicago :rolly I hope everyone is ok. Property can be replaced, loved ones cannot.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Apr 14, 2006 -> 06:15 AM) Yeah gimme the heat any day of the week over the cold. Although I prefer the "dry heat" you get in a place like Phoenix, compared to the 100 temp days we get down here in the summer. Usually that heat comes from the wind, and it ain't that good of a feeling outside when you've got a heat vacuum blowing right at you. We have really high humidity at the island. The Rio Grande Valley will range on the same day at the same time from 90 degrees and 55% humidity at the beach to 104 degrees and 15% humidity away from the beach. And there is always a 12 mph wind from the southeast.

The pitching was pretty key. There were a whole lot of pieces of the puzzle. The team was reshaped quite a bit even without that trade. They still hit 200 home runs so it wasn't like there was this absence of power. The team used power as much as any team in baseball. Looking at players, right now, I'd rather have Lee back in the lineup. Then by your logic, since we won a WS with Rowand in the lineup, we lost the trade for Thome unless we win a WS. Because Rowand was crucial to the WS win. Losing Frank and Carl will be a disaster because we won a WS with them on the roster.

QUOTE(Middle Buffalo @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 11:01 PM) It's a pain in the ass, not to mention a major trip hazard, when my loosely wrapped cloth shoes unravel mid-stride. My feet do stay cool, though. I love the phrase, at least it's a dry heat. My oven is a dry heat. Stick your head in there and turn your hair dryer on high, and you have a lot of days in Texas. If you don't love the heat, this isn't the place for you. 103 >>>>> -10

QUOTE(Steff @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 10:28 PM) IMO, Unless there is (a lot) more to the story, I don't see the GJ agreeing to move forward. I wonder what info hasn't been released that makes him so confident. I hope it's not about the election. The politics in this is really starting to stink. From a distance, and from what information has been made public, I'm theorizing the DA want to appease those who want to see him act. So he takes it to the GJ, they say no, and he wrings his hands, says I'm sorry, but there isn't anything more I can do, and, BTW, Vote for Me! I really hate to think she was lying, but I also hate to think someone could rape another person. I guess between the two, I'd rather believe some drunk girl made up a story than some drunk guys raped her. Either way it makes me sick. The lives that have been s*** on, either way makes it a sad story.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 03:28 PM) Being the "socially conscious" lefty that you are you should be outraged that evil corporations exploit migrant labor at a fraction of the minimum wage but I guess in your frenzy to stop immigration reform you guys forgot all about that. I dont know what it takes to get it through your thick skull that these people are violating the law by being here. You say try thinking? You should take your own advice. Additionally, I know it really burns your ass but this isin't Soviet Russia and the government has no say so as to where corporations locate their factories or how they run their businesses. Those jobs are outsourced because the cost of labor is becomming prohibitively high, as an economics major you should know this, and to stay competitive and increase shareholder value companies must seek to lower costs. First off, I am outraged and think anyone caught paying workers off the books, at any price, and should be punished harshly. No matter who the worker is. There are plenty of legal residents who are being paid cash, and not paying taxes on the money. This abuse is wrong. Most of the illegals you speak about are being paid above the minimum wage, at prevailing wages for that job and location. That is supply and demand at work. They have false documentation which employers believe (some praying) shows they are permitted to work here. So get it through your thick skull that this isn't always about $2 per hour labor. As far as breaking the laws, it depends on how serious you take this law. Speeding, being drunk in public, (even at a bar), are examples of laws that get ignored every day. On a moral basis, if you are starving in your own country and can find work and feed your family, isn't there a hgher moral value for the individual? Illegal immigrants, if you set aside the fact they are breaking the law just by beig here, are far more likely to be victims of crimes, and not report them, than commit a crime. They live in fear of being discovered and deported. They are taken advantage of all the time by landlords, shop keepers, employers, etc. Look at what they risk to grab a small piece of the American dream. Too bad people born here can't grab that same spirit. I've never met an illegal that thought he was entitled to anyting. I have met some residents that have. As far as outsourcing Nuke, since you are in an industry that hasn't seen outsourcing except to torture individuals, perhaps you can't understand the frustration involved when the factories move overseas. Once the US discovers we can hire soldiers from other countries, who are willing to die for the US for cheaper wages, then you will see outsourcing in a different light.

The list looked complete.

QUOTE(Be Good @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 05:38 PM) Ghost Riders- Outlaws Attractive and Dumb Girl/Boyfriend or Ugly and Smart Girl/Boyfriend Ugly and smart zippers or buttons

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 08:24 PM) why would it cost a "s***load" of money? It shouldn't and it won't. Running background checks are cheap, running employment information would be fairly easy and inexpensive. I believe most cynics would say the thought of a government program being easy and inexpensive would be a first.

It is still to early this season, but I'll admit hearing C-Lee rob a home run with his defense and then hitting a game winner today, has me wondering who did better in the trade.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 08:21 PM) Bingo. Why would a small restaurant spend a s***load of money to find out if their busboy's paperwork is legit. It'll never happen. They would of they faced jail or huge fines, but then they would also have to raise prices and cause other problems.

The system has to be inexpensive for the employer to use. It can't take weeks or even days in most cases. At the low end of the employment process spending hundreds or thousands of dollars per employee, to hire 100 temporary workers, doesn't work.

This case is getting weaker and weaker.

The coach angle is a wildcard in all this. By resigning, didn't it seem like he believed her as well? Over his players? Or now, what seems more plausible to me, is the University forced him out.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 03:51 PM) Materials still require vehicles and/or people. I wish I could find that darn article now, but the amount of money Border Patrol has spent on detection technologies is staggeringly small. And you are right about the North Woods. I pointed that out too, a while ago, that one can boat across the very long border into MN without anyone ever knowing. But I sure as heck don't want to see a giant battlement of a wall put up across this county's largest roadless wilderness area (BWCAW and Quetico combine to be over 6 million acres). Vehicles can be bought here and people brought in legally as tourists and students. And I agree with Nuke and Rex, but knowingly is a hard term to prosecute.

I love this thread. Cub fans would be sipping a nice brew and discussing the power surge and all the runs. Sox fans take a moment and see the s***. At least Jenks looked good today. Shirt was nice and clean, no sweat stains, no cookie crumbs.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 03:44 PM) As I pointed out earlier in this thread, we don't need to spend billions or put up a 1400 mile wall to protect our borders. There are more efficient technological methods, just as there are at our ports. We are already using many of thosr technologies, and by most acounts they have not achieved the desired success. Ut will take much more, which will be very expensive. I fear materials being imported more than people walking across the desert or north woods.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 12:58 PM) I agree with that. It still is pretty shocking to see a consensus #1 ranked team to cancel the season though. Duke B-ball could have been ranked 64 and they wouldn't have cancelled. If this is so,mehow proven to be a lie, it will be one of the worse things to happen in college sports. Actually, I wonder if at this thought they are considering allowing the team to compete? As much as I sided with the girl, the lack of DNA casts enough of a shadow of doubt that I would consider it. I would also tell Duke to shove it if I was the ex-coach

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Apr 13, 2006 -> 03:31 PM) Oh so making sure our borders are secure is a "waste of money" huh? I guess screening all those containers coming into our ports is a "waste of money" too huh? There's so many and they're all carrying toys. dvd players and televisions, nothing could ever happen there! Sometimes you really amaze me. :rolly Fences and patrols away from are ports is what I'm objecting to. Proposals like 1,400 mile long fences. Measures to stop illegals crossing, looking for jobs, while Canada and the US flush shipping lanes during heavy traffic periods by not checking at all. (see the It Would be Different if it was Mexico) I am all for securing the ports, but not for spending billions to patrol thousands of square miles of desert.

A've been assuming that everyone has a working knowledge of how illegals get employed. I am thinking now that most people here are thinking the majority of illegals are working off the books, for cash. At least here in Texas, and I suspect most places, that isn't accurate. Many illegals are paying taxes, just not to "accurate" social security numbers. If we are discussing workers who are being paid cash by employers who knowingly have hired undocumented workers, then I agree, both parties should be in serious trouble. What happens more often, is the worker will borrow the proper documentation either from a relative, or pay for a fake identity. The employer is sending in the withholdings, but the account that is being credited, isn't the one doing the working. The obvious downside is someone gets credited for benefits they did not earn and the person working receives no benefits. But taxes are being paid. I am certain we all have been employed here. When you are employed you furnish a copy of your driver's license and social security cards. There is an undergroud market for these items. Identity theft doesn't just mean someone racking up credit card bills, it also means working and using someone elses SS#.