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QUOTE(Steve Bartman's my idol @ Jan 6, 2006 -> 10:22 AM) I hope that you're not implying that Sharon is going to Hell! If so, contact me privately...I don't want to get banned like my brother. I was suggesting I was going to hell for laughing at the "who could have seen that coming" comment. Definately not suggesting Sharon was going to hell. Sorry if anyone thought that.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/football/cst-spt-dungy06.html I am amazed that more people don't know basic First Aid and CPR. Almost every University offers free or very cheap classes. The Red Cross and many employers have programs.

I think you do have to factor in the stage and what was at stake. Yes, you can have great mid season games, but when a National Championship is on the line, and clearly the two best teams in the country are playing for it, and the underdog wins in the final seconds, that has got to add to the "immortality" of that game. What I think hurts the game was execution was not even close to perfect and you didn't have a classic great offense vs. great defense type story line.

I love the conclusion. I am also glad we didn't try to domesticate giraffs. I have to believe the poop is huge and who wants to heat tall ceilings like that?

Of course our rights come with a price tag. Get rid of Miranda and Search and Seizure laws and more criminals (and innocent people) will be off the streets. I am certain, and I am using an extreme example, the Gestapo and SS could show how their tactics saved lives by getting criminals off the streets. But that isn't America and it isn't what generations have fought to preserve.

I was looking at some murder stats and it seems plus or minus 18,000 people are murdered each year in America. How about publishing that story like they do the Iraq totals? That works out to about 50 per day.

I was thinking instead of creating new threads, we could group Iraq news and discussion into one thread. http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/01/06/...main/index.html I wonder how many Americans were murdered here in America yesterday?

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 11:24 PM) Well your a Texas fan so a course PSU/FSU isnt going to be as good for you.... But you don't even think it's a top 25 game?

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 11:06 PM) Yes, a stroke for a 5-9 man who weighed nearly 300 pounds and was something like 77 years old. Didn't see that one coming. Going to hell but LMAO all the way . . .

Both teams played to form. It was one of the few times the game lived up to the buildup.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 10:54 PM) There's a nice warm place waiting for asscracks like this. As I was reading both those articles, I realized I can't relate to such stupidity and hate. Especially the hate. I remember having some respect a long time ago for Robertson, at this point, he's one of the bigger idiots around.

Linked PLUS Nice to see a former GOP Presidential candidate and Iran's President are united. Wow, this makes me so sad for humanity.

You can imagine the hyperbole being spoken here.

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 02:39 PM) 2,000 Peter Johnsons who have a problem flying because of the "no-fly" list.

The GOP has insulated themselves from any and all criticism. It is either the result of a biased media, activist judges, or the usual whining of "it is always Bush's fault" and should be ignored. Bush has been the perfect President, just ask any Republican. Now after I got that off my chest, this really can't be Bush's fault. As YAS pointed out they were cited for numerous violations. Perhaps the follow up might have been better, but the miners who continued to go into the mine, and the new mine owners who must have known of the issues and continued to send men in while, hopefully, trying to remedy the violations, are to blame. I also would like to know if the number of active mines increased, decreased, or stayed the same while the budget was reduced 10%. Perhaps if the number of mines decreased 20% during that period we actually may have greater expenses per mine.

And here in lies the balance that we are trying to find. To save the feelings of the majority of posters who found the religion and politics threads too extreme and well, just too everything, and to allow for the free swinging banter back and forth, Filibuster was founded. For the most part, it has worked and worked well. Last night, and it always seems to be at night, things boiled over between some outstanding, long term posters. What I read was raw, honest, communications, between people who are very comfortable with each other. The opinions did not surprise me, anyone who has been here for any length of time would recognize some of those posts without names. The decision was made to close the thread to avoid more fireworks. The thread was clearly over any line that was established for SL&P, and would have resulted in some person or persons being sent to the penalty box for a 5 day misconduct. In Filibuster, it's a closed thread. Past decisions do not guarantee future actions. Your mileage may vary, Please see local dealers for more details. Void were prohibited. The opinions expressed here are not the opinion of soxtalk.com, it's advertisers, or possibly even me in the next five minutes.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 07:22 AM) Hey guys, could you possibly be a little more original and a little less narrowminded as to the cubfans=gay jokes? Thank you. Those "jokes" place us in the same light as beer drinking, coach attacking, running on the field, simpletons.

I guess the reporting could have been Miner(s) May Be Trapped Autopsies reveal Miners Dead They could have turned *off* the cameras when the Church Bells starting ringing and people started cheering. But reporters took the information that was coming from the mine. They didn't create a rumour, the didn't take something from a 1-900-Psychic, and report it as fact. Everyone with the exception of the mine owners, were stating the same thing. And the miscommunication came from someone *inside* the mine and then relayed. Who was more in position to know, the mine owners above ground, or the recuers in the mine? The reporters, like everyone else, were mistaken. To blame the media for the families anguish, when the reporters received the news from the families, seems illogical. But, I do agree with SS, that there should be designated one official source, and hopefully it isn't the Governor in this case. Hopefully something like this never happens again.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 05:47 AM) Well, the state of Texas will be in a good ass mood today!!! I'll bet the folks in College Station are cheering

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 5, 2006 -> 05:47 AM) Well, the state of Texas will be in a good ass mood today!!! How many million caps do you think were made? I couldn't go anywhere yesterday without seeing orange.

I thought earier in the year that if USC did not have "the streak" going, that Texas would have been ranked #1, but agreed until USC loses, they deserved that position. I think that makes the UT win all that much sweeter. And it was the defensive battle everyone expected

We have a time out on the field while the officials review the play. Just a reminder people:

QUOTE(Steve Bartman's my idol @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 04:48 PM) Here is a simplification of the issue...let's suppose your next door neighbor had a son that, for whatever reason, was thrown out of his house. Out of the kindness of your heart, you allow him to live in your house until he can go home. Eventually he gets so comfortable in your house (because he has many more rights and freedoms there) that he decides that your house is his house. Now he wants his friends and family to enjoy the same rights and freedoms he has, so he tries to get them to move in to your house. When you explain to him that you don't have room for all these people, he tells you that he will kill you and your family members so that his "people" can take over your home. (In case you were wondering, your home represents Israel, and your neighbor represents the "palestinians".) I agree whole heartily with your example, except, when Israel was created in the 1940s, wasn't it more like this example? The neighbor comes to you and proclaims, my great grandfather lived in your house, you have to move out. Even the United Nations agrees, you have to leave. (in case you are wondering, you are a Palestinian and your neighbor is a Jew from anywhere in the world)

I'm with Steff and YASNY on this one. I am having a hard time understanding what the media did wrong in this, they reported that the families thought their families were alive, then reported that the families found out they died. Should they not have reported that Church bells are ringing and people are shouting they are alive? The world was waiting on news of the miners, each bit of progress was reported. And if they didn't report it, would the families have been spared? No. They families were not getting news from the Governor or the media, the news seems to have been spread by volunteer rescuers. If the media wasn't there, the families would still have been given wrong information. I'm guessing it was one guy with a cell phone calling back to the Church. News media are the rough draft of history. If you want to wait for all the facts, then nothing would be reported, it would all be in the history books.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jan 4, 2006 -> 08:06 AM) I heard this morning that the reporters got the info from a Church official who supposedly got the news from a police official...??? Apparently the police were not speaking directly to the media for this very reason...? I was half listening so I definitely could be wrong.. I think the ringing of the Church bells and people screaming in the streets alerted most reporters. From what I pieced together a volunteer relayed the news without waiting to be certain exactly what was said by the guys in the mine. Perhaps he had a friend or family member he phoned?