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QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 09:25 AM) It's more a case of the liberal media twisting things because the Governor's last name is Bush. Just like they are going after Delay. Shameful. Wait until the media circus when an innocent homeowner blows away some punk who walks on his property. They'll be all in a tizzy. The only place that will have the guts to print the honest to God truth on this is the http://nra.org/

Typical and nothing surprising. Sometimes he's right on, this time he appears very whiny. I think he's been writing this one in his mind for months and looked for any opportunity to publish it.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 09:06 AM) When I first read of this, before this thread was started, the AP article said the Florida law would be in line with most other states if enacted. I spent 30 minutes looking for that article last night, with no luck. I know some states have taken away the right for someone who breaks into your home to sue if they get injured either by accident or by the owners use of force to defend his property. Which seems like a Doh to me. I wonder of Florida is trying to enact something like that and it just appears to apply to more circumstances?

Dodge 3500 1 ton pickup for work. Pontiac Sunfire and a Mini-Van for personal and whenever I can leave the 7 mile per gallon behemoth at home.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Apr 6, 2005 -> 10:30 PM) The maximum effective range of a beretta 9mm pistol is 50 meters or so. Tack on 25-50 meters for more powerful handguns. At distances greater than that even a trained pistol marksman is going to have trouble hitting a stationary target let alone a moving one. After that you're really not going to get much in the way of accuracy. Most of the people in your scenario would be wasting bullets or worse.........hitting the wrong people. That all being said, I agree with this new law. I dont want just any Tom, Dick or Harry packing heat and running around but people who recieve proper training and prove they are good citizens through a background check can be a force multiplier to the local police and I think that's the whole point of this law. It appears that the law changes the way the shooter is treated. Currently in Florida, the shooter would be guilty until he can prove his innocence. Like any other shooting. Here's the person with the gun, here's the person shot, the person who shot him is the criminal. Now if the shooter feels threatened, it would be up to the person shot to prove they were innocent. What is unclear to me, and using a Chicago example (substitute Florida landmarks to be accurate). You leave the United Center after a game and are cutting through the industrial area to the north and appear threatening to a local street gang member who then shoots you. Is he protected by this same law if he says it looked like you were going to run him over with your car and he felt threatened? Americans have the right to bear arms. I'm surprised Nuke that you would agree with the government picking and choosing who gets that right and who doesn't. It doesn't say just the people the government approves of. Turn in your NRA card. Armed Americans can help our already overworked police departments. When honest citizens are free to shoot these violent criminals, we'll have safer streets. Rapists, robbers, murderers will think twice before committing violent crimes in Florida. If I was a state near Florida, I would inact that same law and fast before you are over run by violent criminals fleeing Florida.

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Apr 7, 2005 -> 08:23 AM) Why are you always so over-the-top and melodramatic? Its not always all-or-nothing, yet you act like it is. Chill out a bit, my fellow Sox fan, have a beer. Relax. It's just one thing after another and nothing is sticking and the stuff is getting weaker and weaker, older and older. I'm not a big fan of his, but this is ridiculous. Let the voters in his district decide if he needs to go. With the mid decade redistricting he added a half dozen house seats for the GOP. I know that has ticked some people off, me included, but bouncing him from office doesn't seem fair. Let his constituents do that. Answer to part 1, it makes for better theater. With Delay, they want him out. So it is kind of all or nothing. Let the voters decide, not some 8 year old campaign payments. Defending the President on Schiavo? Yes Defending the President on Immigration? Yes Defending Delay? Yes I am turning into such a great Republican

I heard an interesting interview with a Professor at Notre Dame. There are three basic physical needs that all humans have. 1. Air to breath 2. Temperate climate (natural or man made) 3. Food and Water If a terminal patient asked to freeze to death, or be strangled, we would not allow that. Why would we allow them to dehydrate or starve? I think the Pope was following that same line of reasoning.

If it was me, I'd be glad I was in water when the head bobbed out of the water. I'd be cleaning my underwear.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Apr 6, 2005 -> 11:54 PM) Minutemen are having an effect. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,152702,00.html As was pointed out to me last night by a Border Patrol officer Captured illegals increase: Minutemen helped to spot them Captured illegals decrease: Minutemen helped deter them Beautiful situation. They cannot lose the PR battle with the people, usually reporters, that do not think. What we need is a huge tax cut so we can hire 1,000,000 more law enforcement officers to patrol the borders.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Apr 6, 2005 -> 10:22 AM) From what I'm hearing, the rank & file of the Border Patrol are appreciativfe of these guys bringing attention to the fact that they NEED MORE HELP. What is being said in the media is the "official" stance of the Border Patrol. The rank and file won't say any different because of fear of repercussions. The Border Patrol that are stationed in the McAllen sector I spoke with last night at my Boy Scout Troop meeting are saying this brave volunteers are causing the guys in Arozona grief. Who knows.

O'Reill is part of the anti-Texas media. America needs Delay. I'm not certain why the anti-Texas media have targeted this man for extermination. I'll bet there are campaigns all over this country where the candidate has family that are savvy and can help and are getting paid. I don't see what is wrong with that.

QUOTE(Brian @ Apr 6, 2005 -> 09:33 PM) First job was at a sporting goods store when I was 15 for $5/hr. Worst job I ever had was a summer at Great America. They worked me like a slave. 6 days a week when I was 16 and pay was junk. You did get a 1 hour break and a 30 minute break which was kind of nice. Lots of good eye candy around the park as well. Great America was my best job in High School. Ride Operations Kicking tires on Turn of the Century, Haybailer, and Sky Whirl My first was at a golf course for $3 per hour and all the golf I could play. I quit when they cut back on the golf. If you are looking to make a lot of money, look at a construction site, paving crew, lawn crews, etc. Hard labor pays ok. Cool factor get Red Cross lifesaver certified and hang out at a pool. Summer Camps need staff, one of my Scouts is spending 10 weeks as a life guard at a camp in the mountains. Food and Room plus $200 per week.

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Apr 6, 2005 -> 09:17 PM) I think he's pulling a little "Modest Proposal" At least in Texas, you have to take a class and pass a test to get a concealed handgun permit. Presumably, they could all take safe shots. The sight of 10,000 handguns at a Sox game would be awesome. Although, since alcohol is served, it may be an off limits area.

Look at the Middle East, funerals are targets for both sides. :headshake

QUOTE(Goldmember @ Mar 1, 2005 -> 04:05 PM) at least they didn't give it an erected cock... :puke I wouldn't have been able to tell the difference, thanks for knowing, and telling us.

QUOTE(Nokona @ Apr 6, 2005 -> 05:29 PM) ...Says the Texan. I'm just trying to be more agreeable to all the GOPers here. By pass the whole stupid court system and do it yourself. A little wild west justice. It's about time that law abiding citizens took back our country and if a little blood has to spill, so be it. Like Governor Jeb Bush of the Bush Family Dynasty or BFD as I like to call them said. "It's just a common sense anti-crime law'" Don't stop at reporting crime, do something about it. It's nice to see the GOP making giant strides without liberal Dems around to water down the laws. How could anyone be against this law? The only people getting shot are criminals. Think about this, a few years back when Liege ran on the field. 10,000 Sox fans pull guns and shoot! No one else would ever run on the field again.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/n..._nm/pope_dc_175 Not exactly certain how a missle is going to help, but security must be crazy around there.

QUOTE(rangercal @ Apr 6, 2005 -> 05:12 PM) The dreaded mlb board :banghead I cannot believe anyone hangs around those boards.

Wow, didn't see that coming

QUOTE(winodj @ Apr 6, 2005 -> 05:10 PM) This is just the damn internet. Geez. Easy for you to say, you have a really cool sig that fits

They get to hang out in Italy for a couple days? Damn, that's good work if you can get it. I figured he would drop in late tomorrow, catch the funeral and then adios for the casa blanca

QUOTE(rangercal @ Apr 6, 2005 -> 03:30 PM) Dude if you state your opinion here you will be bashed. Then if you start an argument with a moderator it is all over. All the sheep will come and help. So you will lose this argument 10 out of 10 times. baaaaa, actually argue with mods all you want. Beware of admins, they can sentence you to banishment or worse, the MLB boards. Mods are designed to get beat up. We're the air bags for admins. That's why Southsider is such a good looking young man.

That is pretty good and they really do not bother me at all. They should love their team and I'd be more pissed if it was an Indians or a Tiger's jersey instead of ours.

QUOTE(winodj @ Apr 6, 2005 -> 04:40 PM) Bob Dole's wife has talent and political acumen? So does the Delay family. It's part of their Texas values. It just comes naturally.