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QUOTE(winodj @ Mar 30, 2005 -> 12:14 PM) Minus ten points for quoting Rush. But nice ref anyways. Plus ten for a Rush reference.

Unemployed father of three, missing for over a week. I'd be desperate too. Getting turned down by eBay is probably better than having them run the ad.

I doubt it will add or subtract a win this season, so it's just a nice diversion before the main feast. Just a well educated guest, but anything short of Davis for Gagne will have the Kenny hater complaining. I'm a little surprised that we haven't heard Willie's name in all this. I am expecting someone to make an offer that Kenny can not refuse.

Of course the ACLU is involved to get the law changed. I suppose the hard core GOPerheads will have to defend the law.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Mar 30, 2005 -> 10:51 AM) Alabama is one of 19 states that allow cousin marriage without ANY restrictions. Been doing some research?

QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 30, 2005 -> 09:08 AM) That's a typical remark. No, Kentucky would be a typical remark, I thought Alabama was a nice touch Of course, sadly there are many who believe this. :banghead

I posted this in teh wrong forum before The Top 5 Special Moments During the 2005 Baseball Season 5> Sammy Sosa's steroid needle is found to contain cork. 4> Honoring their contract signed last year, the Red Sox play their home games at Lucifer Field, home of the "red monster." 3> With steroids out of the picture, the 2005 home run title is won by Ted Williams's frozen head. 2> After years of shame, Tommy Lasorda admits to a 'roids problem of his own and signs a lucrative endorsement deal with Preparation H. and Topfive.com's Number 1 Special Moment During the 2005 Baseball Season... 1> Steve Bartman makes a tragic return to Wrigley Field, unaware it's commemorative bat giveaway day. Join ClubTop5 to see the whole list: http://www.topfive.com/html/clubtop5.shtml

The Top 5 Special Moments During the 2005 Baseball Season 5> Sammy Sosa's steroid needle is found to contain cork. 4> Honoring their contract signed last year, the Red Sox play their home games at Lucifer Field, home of the "red monster." 3> With steroids out of the picture, the 2005 home run title is won by Ted Williams's frozen head. 2> After years of shame, Tommy Lasorda admits to a 'roids problem of his own and signs a lucrative endorsement deal with Preparation H. and Topfive.com's Number 1 Special Moment During the 2005 Baseball Season... 1> Steve Bartman makes a tragic return to Wrigley Field, unaware it's commemorative bat giveaway day. Join ClubTop5 to see the whole list: http://www.topfive.com/html/clubtop5.shtml

QUOTE(mreye @ Mar 30, 2005 -> 09:30 AM) These kids weren't in carseats / seatbelts? :headshake Not that they deserve this, but let this be a lesson to all parents! They talked about getting thrown from their seatblets in one of the articles, but that might have just been the baby in a child seat.

If we had less rights and protections, we wouldn't need all these lawyers. Get screwed by a large corporation? Too f***ing bad. Fired because you voted for Bush? Too f***ing bad. The cops think you did a crime? Go to jail, too f***ing bad. We need attorneys to buy a house. Why? Find out that the title isn't clear and you lose? Too f***ing bad. Find out a car dealer sold you a lemon of a used car? Too f***ing bad. Faulty product design cost you your eyesight? Too bad. If people would suck up and admit they lost, and move on, we'd save billions of dollars a year, unclog our courts, and be better off. The government should provide legal counsel on both sides. Once a lawyer is good at winning for the defense, move him to the prosecuting side. You should not be able to hire a "dream team" and get off. All criminal attorneys should work for the government. Why should one side be fielded by $10,000,000 suits and the other with public servants? If everyone knows you are guilty, we shouldn't even waste time on a trial.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 30, 2005 -> 07:49 AM) Ummm don't forget a sizable number of the terrorists who committed the acts of 9-11 were here illegally. And if you want to be technical about it, all they were doing was exercizing their religious freedoms. If the US waited for them to break some kind of a law that wasn't immigration related, it would have been too late... and for 3000 people it was. They blended into society, worked, took classes, went to church. On the surface they were law abiding citizens, until they hijacked those planes that is. And how many were Mexicans working in packing sheds and produce fields?

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 30, 2005 -> 07:45 AM) I answered this one yesterday. Because statistically Mexicans are thousands of times more likely to stay here illegally. How many illegal Canadians are here, how many illegal Mexicans are here. Which border does the problem lay at? That is why the rules are more strict there. SO they are more likely to overstay a 6 month Tourist VISA than a 3 month VISA? Why?

QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 30, 2005 -> 07:02 AM) I wish more from both parties would get on the "center" stage. Too many are on the far right stage, as well as the far left stage. I'm not just talking about this particular issue, either.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 30, 2005 -> 07:02 AM) I wish more from both parties would get on the "center" stage. Too many are on the far right stage, as well as the far left stage. I'm not just talking about this particular issue, either.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 10:54 PM) Until the Sox prove them wrong, why are they morons? They haven't picked us the last 3 years and we haven't won. Don't be pissed at them for calling us losers, be mad at the team for proving them right. Dibble picked us last season, now he's gone. Maybe it's a conspiracy We totally changed our team. Dropped back in the outfield corners, added a couple question marks at the 3 and 4 starter position, added a never seen in America second baseman, Thomas is on the DL.What's not to like? Obviously we leapfrogged the Twins Both the Twins and the Indians have won the Central since we did it last. You got to beat the man to be the man.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 30, 2005 -> 06:56 AM) Nope. Just Jesse Jackson. Exactly the same as why I don't use "Reverend" Jerry Falwell. I have little or no respect for either man. I was pointing out his title kindof puts him over there with the parents. I also think any attempts by the Dems to join the GOP on center stage would be seen as grandstanding and exploitation and bandwagon jumping.

There is a delay between when you consume the drink and it "hits your system". What seems to have happened in this case is he drank a six pack in less than an hour, on an empty stomache. All those hit at the same time. IIRC the human body processes about a shot of liquor per hour. In theory, for most humans, drinking one drink per hour would not get you drunk. One drink and inning, when Burhle is pitching, will have you drunk by the bottom of the fourth. I am certain some of you remember the fun days in the late 70s when Illinois' drinking age was 21 and Wisconsin was 18. Long drives to the border were common and I am certain scary for parents. It's the same here, only the kids are heading to Mexico. Up until a car load of teenagers were killed, Customs and the Border Patrol were not allowed to detain anyone for drunk driving. These kids came through, slurring that they were all US citizens returning from Mexico and were dead 15 minutes later. The laws were then changed.

QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 10:32 PM) My new cat. She's cute, although, the name will obviously be changed. I do not believe in owning pets named precious. It was a toss up between a cat and a dog--but the cuteness of this cat, and the fact that cats are cheaper persuaded me to pick her up. She's adorable and I'm bringing her home tomorrow. Hurray!!!!! I think you should narrow the choices to three and let us vote

I went 20 different ways in this and allow me to summarize. Immigration is a serious issue that needs to be addressed. For over a hundred years we have turned a blind eye to the issue because we benefited. I don't have a problem with documenting every worker and visitor to this country. I personally feel we have more to fear from a guy in a nice suit stepping off a plane then Juan with everything he owns on his back, carrying two milk jugs of water, across the desert. I do not understand placing a bunch of resources trying to stop Juan and allowing terrorists with money to waltz in on tourist VISAs, Student VISAs, etc. Do we honestly believe a major terrorist plot begins with "cross just north of Del Rio, walking 55 miles across the desert avoiding the vigilantes, . . . The reason our elected officials have not done anything is they understand how critical these laborers are to our agriculture economy and how important agriculture is to our National Defense. This is a huge agricultural area, and everyone I know in the industry tells me that cannot hire enough legal Americans for the harvest and packing season. The work is about 7-8 months long and ranges from onions to watermelons. The first step in solving the problem is to admit we need these workers and have been exploiting these workers. That's a tough pill to swallow for any President, Senator, Congressman, or State official. Imagine the two choices. 1. Elected Official Press Announcement "This policy will eliminate illegals from our shores and will "created" hundreds of thousands of nomad, seasonal, minimum wage jobs. Please head up to Idaho and start picking potatoes for the next 5 weeks, we also need some people for 6 weeks in Florida picking and packing tomatoes, when you finish there, you will be needed in Georgia for 3 weeks picking and packing peaches. This is the greatest employment bill this country has ever seen. Wow creating minimum wage, manual labor, seasonal jobs. That's exactly what gets the voters pulses racing. Especially when the next article over talks about another manufacturing plant moving to China. 2. Next options an elected official announcing we need these workers, agriculture cannot work without them. Another soon to be voted out public official. Another interesting point. We make it easier to come here and take a $50,000 per year programming job than a $12,000 per year laborer job. Does that make sense to anyone? The software industry fills their allotment of H1B VISA each year and begs the government to hire more. Claiming there are not enough software writers available in the US. At the same time unemployment in Austin in the tech sector is over 15% with guys very willing to relocate. Unlike illegals coming in from other parts of the globe, Mexicans , for the most part, return to Mexico with their pay, at the end of the season. Tensions are high on the border. Vigilantes are outside the law, are not trained, no screening. I've read their web sites and they are filled with hate wrapped up in an American flag. Let's not make these guys the poster children for border security. Let's come up with a program that doesn't cut off our nose to spite our face. Recognize the valuable contribution that guest farm labor provides this country, figure out a way to harness that, while helping to insure that someone out to hurt us doesn't slip through.

Thank you everybody. I have no idea how kids without internet access do their homework.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 30, 2005 -> 06:03 AM) I have to admit that Jesse Jackson totally shocked me by not following the liberal throngs. He actually has an occasional independant thought. I'm thoroughly impressed. I believe that is the *Reverend* Jesse Jackson and I know a lot of Dems that are behind the parents. Plus, I haven't seen too many major Dems exactly fighting for the husband. I still don't see this as a left v. right issue. The biggest right wing nut job Nuke didn't care one way or another. This progressive nut job is siding with Hannity. So go figure. I would have been shocked if Jackson had come out in favor of keeping the feeding tube out.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 10:10 PM) You dispute that number? California alone spends something like 2 BILLION dollars on all manner of services for these people when they dont belong here in the first place. I also dont see the relevance in the visa laws in relation to this issue. The people running across the southern border are not headed for Lake Havasau or Vegas to spend a weekend in a hotel living it up. To assert that illegal immigration saves us money is ludicrous. Even you should be able to see that we can't have thousands of people crossing illegally every day. HELL even LCR sees that! You want our food produced here thats fine. There has to be some control though and a guest worker program, where we can at least screen who gets in and who doesn't, is the right answer there. People crossing willy nilly with no controls is a grave security risk and it is one that gets worse every year because of people just like you. Even LCR! I'll bet he appreciates the compliment. I am not avocating allowing free access. What I am saying is if you waved a magic wand and removed all the illegals, our economy collapses. Maybe your job doesn't resuire training, but every Border Patrol Agent I've talked with hates these guys. They judge everyone as guilty until proven innocent and each Agent believes bloodshed is going to happen. The Agents run special operations along the river and worry that some vigilante is going to get in the middle and start shooting. I guess no one wants to try and answer why a Doctor and his familty from Canada can spend 6 months out of the year vacationing in America but a Mexican Doctor and his family can only spend 3 months. Could it be we are treating LAW ABIDING Mexicans worse than Canadians? I'm certain the color of their skin has nothing to do with it. This effects my local economy greatly. Wealthy Mexican families love to come to McAllen, South Padre Island, San Antonio, and other cities and tourism spots. Yet they are limited far greater than tourist from Canada. QP, most of those million dollar condos you passed on South Padre Isand are owned by Mexican Nationals. They are a huge contributor to the border economy. They are harrased by these vigilantes who see themselves as some modern day Rambo. I believe to patrol our borders takes some training and knowledge of our immigration laws.

There was a Law and Order where a defense attorney was representing himself and he gave a great closing argument, that changed my mind about defense attorneys. Our system is based on reasonable doubt. Our system, better than anywhere else in the world keeps innocent people out of jail. When someone is convicted, we know beyond a reasonable doubt that they are guilty. Aren't we fighting a war in part because innocent people were being put into jails? We sleep better knowing that guys like Johnny Cochran and his ilk are protecting not only their clients, but all of us. By making our law enforcement work within the laws, we all are better off. It is sickening when a guilty person gets away with murder, even worse when an innocent person is locked up for 20 years and later exonerated. I love this country and this legal system.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 09:39 PM) Every time someone tries to do something about this your ilk labels them as racists and the screaming gets so loud that they back down. Blame yourself. your ilk?? Learn a little about our agriculture before smarting off. Our f***ing economy collapses without migrant workers. What have we become when US CITIZENS have to be subjected to harassment by vigilantes who are questioning every MEXICAN -AMERICAN they see? They have no training and declare every Mexican they meet as illegals. Nice that you defend freedom, too bad it doesn't extend to MEXICAN AMERICANS who you seem to think should all be suspected of being illegals. And read through the Congressional Medal of Honor winners. A lot of Mexicans are represented, some where not even citizens when they enlisted. And even after being wounded or killed, this country still will not grant them citizenship.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 09:36 PM) Illegal immigration is costing us BILLIONS of dollars a year. What's your point? That even in LEGAL entry into the US we have different laws for Mexicans and Canadians. That in addition to the BILLIONS of dollars that illegal immigration costs us (and I dispute that number) we are costing ourselves BILLIONS of LEGAL, TOURISM dollars as well. LEGAL tourists from Canada (where the terrorists came through) are allowed more TOURISM days to spend money than Mexicans. This is LEGAL tourism. What's the point in restricting Mexicans more than Canadians in LEGAL TOURISM? Illegal immigration is saving us BILLIONS of dollars a year. What does having our food produced overseas do to our national security?