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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 12:41 PM) Legal immigration is different because of the amount of illegal immigration. It isn't a concern on the northern border, so the rules don't need to be as stringent. Heck if you want an anaolgy, that's some states require helmets on motorcycles, but not in cars. They are both motor vehicles, but the different dynamics require different things. A family from Canada can spend 6 months travelling the US and a family from Mexico only 90 days. Because if illegal immigration? What? So if someone from a country commits a crime, we punish the whole country? BTW, it's costing American business billions in tourism dollars as wealthy Mexicans travel to Australia, Europe, and other destinations.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan56789 @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 09:28 AM) http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gaged

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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 08:00 AM) And finally on the race issue, people are simply playing the race card ala Jesse Jackson, way too easily here. The comparison was made to Canada, and I ask how many illegal crossings were made on the US/Canadian border? The problem isn't the same, and doesn't need to be addressed the sameway. It has nothing to do with what country is invovled. Why is LEGAL immigration treated differently between Canadians and Mexicans? Canadians are allowed easier and longer visits than Mexicans.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 07:39 AM) There aren't any illegal border crossings in Downers Grove are there? When you see thousands of illegal aliens trying to cross the Tri State tollway en-masse then you can make that comparison. Where the hell are they going? Are you in favor of giving them a free pass if they can get to Illinois? Aren't they just as illegal in Illinois as in Arizona or Texas? What we need is equality for visitors from Mexico as well as Canada. Wealthy Mexicans spend a lot of money vacationing and shopping in the US. They should receive the same welcome that Canadians receive. Most of these people cross legally. BTW, Mexicans are given two levels of crossing approvals. One allows them within 40-50 miles of the border. This enables them to cross for shopping, visiting relatives and doing the touristy things. Mexico allows US citizens about the same level of welcome. It isn't until you cross into the interior that you need special documentation. Now for those terrible illegals we need to stop. What are they trying to do? Open up a Dental office? Sell stocks? Pass their CPA exam? Nope, they are looking for manual labor jobs that no one else wants. We should have a guest worker program. You think gas prices slowed our economy, wait until our food increases 15-25%. From the fields, to the produce sheds, to the packing plants, no one wants these jobs at the prevailing wages. Look at what sanitation crews earn picking up garbage, and think even higher wages until you have enough people to do that work. How much would it take for anyone here to spend 9 months out of the year, living out of your car, moving from town to town, following the harvest, bending over in the fields? Be grateful we have workers close by that are willing to do that. We also need to separate vigilantes from legal law enforcement and constructive means. We have a very large LEGAL Mexican-American population on the border. Why should they live in fear of a bunch of yahoos with sidearms, accosting them and questioning them? Most of these groups are not constructive. Can you tell a legal resident, a non-resident alien, and an illegal? Saying these guys can be effective is an insult to the highly trained Border Patrol agents that spend over 6-months in training before hitting the field. Out side of the CIA, the Border Patrol has the highest level of training of any law enforcement agency in the US. The best analogy I can give you is if the Latin Kings decided that there was too much violence at New Trier High School and they are going to start patrolling the school in full gang colors. That is the image these guys have with Americans who live on the border. These aren't the local PTA members on a neighborhood watch.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 07:03 AM) What did I say before. Their goal is to observe and report any illegal border crossings they see to the proper authorities. That's it. They're not going to round up anybody. They have already started in some cases. There are a few groups so not all can be branded with the same iron, but there are many reports of these guys riding right up on people, brandishing weapons, and demanding to know why they are there. Scary stuff. We wouldn't put up with it in Downers Grove, why in my neighborhood?

QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 03:42 AM) Wow. This can turn into some SERIOUS s***. Only if you like to eat fruits and vegetables.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 03:10 AM) Somebody is trying to bring attention to a problem, to get the focus of the nation on it. I don't know how someone can automatically jump to the conclusion that this is racially motivated. YASNY, how safe would you feel with a bunch of guys in pickups started patrolling your backyard looking for something illegal? Should they be allowed to detain US citizens? Should they be trained at all? There are better ways of handling this. Live on the border for a while and I'll tell you why we jump to the conclusion. We can spot these guys a mile away. What a surprise the groups are all white. Not a single black guy, not a single Mexican-American, not a single Asian, Not a single American-Indian, not a single Israeli.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 03:21 AM) Like I said before anytime someone speaks out against or proposes action to deal with illegal immigration they are immediately branded as racist by the left. I think that's just rediculous. Nuke, look at these guys. They talk about rounding up all the Mexicans. There are a lot of legal immigrants along the border. Are you saying it would be ok for these vigilantes to detain US citizens at gun point? How would everyone here like guys driving around your neighborhoods detaining anyone on your street? I guess all that training we provide to Border Patrol, Customs, and other law enforcement agencies isn't necessary. We'll just send these guys. As far as the racist comments, of course it doesn't apply in all cases, but visit one of their websites, look at the pictures, and make your own conclusion. Like I said, anytime some wacko group is doing something the GOPerheads like, they defend them no matter what. I think that's just ridiculous. (but hey, I've got a spell checker ) One of the factors between legal and illegal immigration between Canada and Mexico is we have different rules for each country. Canadians are allowed freer and longer access to the US. Which is one reason terrorists came in through Canada, not Mexico.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Mar 29, 2005 -> 01:13 AM) Haven't we been over this ground before? Yes, but this time it was a sideroad that led there. Small business (the ones not moving to China) has the ardest time getting affordable health care for their employees. The rates are outragous and one employee can sink your rates. Small business is our best hedge against globalization.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Mar 28, 2005 -> 08:46 PM) Ketchup on eggs?? Gravy on fries??? :puke ketchup only if salsa is unavailable. While the gravy would be better over some of my dutch oven biscuits, fries will work.

Actually I could like the Cubs, but I'll never like Cub fans. Too obnoxious. I would say, from when I was living in Chicago Bulls Hawks Sox Bears Now that I'm away from Chicago Sox

Perhaps because two Big Ten Teams are in the Final 4, one from either side and not from Indiana? punching my ticket to hell when we find out the real reason . . .

QUOTE(winodj @ Mar 28, 2005 -> 04:57 PM) Not everyone has health insurance available to them in the workforce. I can't afford my health insurance here so I go without. Some people don't or can't work. Some people choose not to. That's not the point though. In this case, its the loss of a benefit to state workers. In many cases, a lot of these talented people went to work for the state specifically because this kind of benefit was offered. Those same people who are working at companies that do not offer health insurance are also doing without, possibly their whole family. Why not work towards universal coverage so that all Americans have access?

QUOTE(winodj @ Mar 28, 2005 -> 04:58 PM) they tried to give her a communion wafer but she was physically unable to receive it. Because she is so dehydrated is what I heard. But Saturday the husband ordered her to not receive Communion. Are you saying it was because the husband was concerned she couldn't swallow it?

So $40 in Seattle, $35 in Dallas, and $75 in New York. American women

This is one of those stories where you think the government is wasting tax dollars until you realize the enormity of the situation. The honeybee is being wiped out by a tiny mite. Linker Here

QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Mar 28, 2005 -> 04:13 PM) I use Limewire and IMesh. Are those legal? I can't keep track anymore. They are all legal, depending on what you are downloading. If you are exchanging family videos, like I'm doing they are legal. If you are trying to find Steve Dahl's Disco Demolition DVD on one of those services, it isn't. Which reminds me, anyone seen the Disco Demolition DVD?

QUOTE(winodj @ Mar 28, 2005 -> 04:08 PM) http://www.freep.com/news/mich/gay22e_20050322.htm Wino, do you know how many gay marriages involve one partner staying at home and the other in the work force? I was thinking about health insurance benefits and other types like that and wonder if this is more a principle than a practical matter. I am not saying that this isn't important, or that fair and just calls for similar benefits for similar humans in similar situations, but I'm curious.

Anyone using Bit Torrent (for legal purposes)? How do you like it? What are some of the best places to find legal links?

QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Mar 28, 2005 -> 03:40 PM) Wedding crap...er...stuff Wow! You look magnificent in that dress

QUOTE(winodj @ Mar 28, 2005 -> 03:34 PM) Maybe its because she can't swallow? Communion wafer will dissolve. But that would require a little moisture. No one can be happy with the way she is dying. :headshake

QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Mar 28, 2005 -> 03:31 PM) Lol - dresses are picked out and ordered (they picked. The yogurt is just cuz I like it. I have been trying to watch what I eat cuz of the dress, but also because I am terrified of developing the problems my parents have (diabetes, high blood pressure and cholesterol). How about posting some pics of the dresses?? This wedding is the Soxtalk Luke and Laura and Chuck and Di all rolled into one

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 28, 2005 -> 03:24 PM) Boy that has got to be the definition of irony.... Let's save this woman's life, but lets exploit her to prop up a website. WTF is wrong with people? :banghead From http://dahl.com/