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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 08:00 AM) Rose broke the cardinal rule of baseball, knowing what the consequences were. I have no pity for Pete Rose. I have none either. On the slippery slope of letting in people who disgraced the sport, he's the first I would. You do make an excellent point that he fully, without any equivocation, knew the consequences.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 4, 2012 -> 08:29 AM) Then he'd be lying, because he knows that if AJ is brought back, it's to be the starter. Doesn't that say something about how he compares his skills to AJs? I like him saying he wants to play, I am trying to figure out what it means when he thinks he can only be the starter if another (better in his mind?) player isn't there.

I was thinking, between Rose and Bonds, I believe Rose deserves it more. His hits were all legit, and he would be going in as a player. I still would rather see them both out, but if one was to get in, I prefer Rose. Who knows what Bonds would have done without PEDs?

How's this for a better quote "I expect to be the starting catcher for the White Sox next season. What the club does with AJ won't change that."

What does it tell you that Flowers doesn't think he can start if AJ is there? I love the idea he wants to start, I'd rather he be thinking that he's better than AJ and would be starting even if AJ returns.

Could any of these be bought legally without a prescription? If the players thought it was ok, why didn't any player piublically say "I'm bigger because I'm taking X? They knew it was wrong.

It seems to me that if you disgrace an organization by cheating or attacking the credibility of the competition you probably are not someone who should be held in high esteem by that organization. To hold up Bonds or Rose and say "these are the greatest individuals in baseball history and MLB is proud of their accomplishments" would be a joke. Baseball was made worse by their accomplishments and actions, they should not be honored. Plus they lied and lied until finally the evidence was too much or they needed to make a deal. Not the kind of people baseball should be honoring. If MLB started with Rose and Bonds, it never would have survived.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 2, 2012 -> 10:26 AM) Yeah hard for me to say whether it is that or not -- but it is not adequate to simply cast him off as "murderer" to me unless more evidence to the contrary comes out. My sense is that you don't do that unless you're mentally unhealthy. I'm not about to pin his number on my chest or something, but I don't think our society is programmed to fully understand what went down. It sounds to me like he just went crazy and unfortunately took someone with him to the other side. I will be interested in what further details come out. Jake, I too will "wait and see" but he is a murderer in my mind until something turns up to dispute that. The facts as we know them today are he killed her.

The level of empathy humans show towards each other is one of the areas where humans are different than other animals. And sometimes not. While I try not to cry over something, or someone, that won't cry over me, some situations call for a small level of empathy. We may forget that each of us is a son or daughter, perhaps a brother, sister, niece, nephew, husband, wife, friend, or teammate. Some of all of them will grieve at your passing no matter what you do or to whom. Even if you want to be the cold hearted sort, his wife was probably liked by a lot of players and their spouses. For any and all of those reasons, it could have been a very rational decision to postpone the game. But there are some very practical concerns which make postponing difficult. However, games have been rescheduled for storms, infrastructure problems, acts of war, and I'm certain a few other issues.

I believe something along these lines would be nice Domestic violence struck the Chiefs family yesterday. At this time we would like to have a moment of silence to remember all the families around the world that are affected by domestic violence.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Dec 1, 2012 -> 12:44 PM) Bet against the Chiefs. Seriously though, every single player on that team has to be contemplating suicide each week. I have respect for them for not taking the easy way out. Wow. I sincerely hope you didn't mean for this to sound as terrible as it does. wow smh

I have always been uncomfortable with taxing any inheritance. For that matter, I don't like taxing the same money twice. I know that no one went broke paying taxes on profits, but I still find a certain unfairness after I have paid my income tax to then pay taxes on profits from the investments made with my post income tax dollars. I wish I had a better plan to propose.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 1, 2012 -> 09:36 AM) The problem you're over-looking is that retaining AJ will also be a downgrade at the position. The guy just had a career year as a 35 year old catcher and will not come close to those numbers next year. No matter who we go with, we'll be getting less production at catcher than we did this past season. I wasn't overlooking AJ's age. I agree he will most likely drop off (how many said that a year ago and were very wrong). We probably disagree how far he will drop off. I'm not certain what you mean by "not come close". Are you thinking his .278 avg to .225? Slugging from .501 to .300? A 15% drop? 50% drop? Adam Dunn 2011 drop?

QUOTE (YASNY @ Dec 1, 2012 -> 11:52 AM) What happened to Phil Humber is that he went back to being Phil Humber. No matter where you go, there you are.

It seems that what happens with AJ will be a nice indication of JRs and K-Dubs "gut" on the chances for next season. If they believe a playoff shot is less than 50-50, seriously why spend money on AJ? I don't believe they can backslide too much here and remain competitive. I also do not see a no AJ scenario where it would not be a backslide and the chances of Flowers being an upgrade are rather slim IMHO.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 29, 2012 -> 10:25 PM) This had more to do with the priorities of the administration than it did with Powell. Billions and billions for the DoD but the State Department was an afterthought, and they'd even have the military doing stuff State should've been doing. That didn't change until some time well into Bush's second term (by which time Rice was SoS). Remember the surge and Rumsfeld leaving, Gates coming on, and the military doing a complete change in strategy after the administration admitted (through actions, not verbally) it didn't know what the f*** it was doing? Something like that. It all kinda happened at the same time. That wasn't Powell's fault, it was Bush's security team of neocons and loons who had no business in positions of power. I think your military perspective adds extra validity to your points.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 27, 2012 -> 09:17 AM) Sold out his entire career? Where do you get this stuff? Powell was the one guy in the close circle with Bush who tried, repeatedly, to talk him and the others out of going into Iraq. He questioned it from multiple viewpoints, and tried to sell his reasoning to Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and others... to no avail. The policy direction was set, and he could not control that. So, he was given partial charge of getting the intelligence associated with Iraq's bad intentions. He shot down multiple of these as well, and was even accused of hiding some of it from the administration. Finally, when that frat boy who was running CIA had what he called the evidence that was needed, Powell pressed him hard. Frat boy gave the now-infamous "slam dunk" response - the head of the CIA said the evidence was a slam dunk. Powell, at this point, was STILL skeptical, but knew he had a job to do. So he said, fine, I'll show this stuff to the UN and the world... but you, CIA guy, are going to stand right be-f***ing-side me while I do it. If I go down for this, you are coming with me. Now... tell me how, that person, instead of the dozens of others who feverishly pushed the war machine into Iraq, is somehow responsible for starting the war in Iraq. And tell me how he sold out, when he clearly tried every avenue available, and still had a job to do. Powell is the guy LEAST responsible for any of that s***. And his performance during it, is exactly why I think he'd made an excellent SecDef for Obama. Wish I wrote this.

QUOTE (YASNY @ Nov 26, 2012 -> 01:44 AM) If Ozzie's done, he's done because of Ozzie. I am the first one to say that managers receive too much credit and too much blame. But the bottom line is exactly what YASNY is saying, Ozzie is done because he just has not done a good job in five or six years. His teams are a mess. They consistently under-perform. On top of that he is an embarrassment to organizations. I like the guy and really hope he gets a job in the broadcast booth. I think he would become a great color guy in the right situation. I also think after a couple years in the booth, a little mellowing, a lot of maturing, he could come back and win another WS with the right team. But right now, he's poison and will not be getting a job in a dugout. I just don't know how anyone can look at the past few seasons as a whole and not agree his teams are under-performing, lack chemistry, and he's a nightmare for PR.

My aunt and uncle in Barrington had problems with keeping a connection. In their case it may have been user error. I think she still uses an AOL email address which she pays for.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 21, 2012 -> 08:41 AM) With the pitching staff this team has... as long as they can find SOME way to get at least similar production out of 3B, whether by trade or signing... I see no way this team won't compete for the ALC crown in 2013. As long as, of course, they are relatively healthy. Will they beat out DET? Probably not, but stranger things happen every season. The Sox will be in the hunt. This.

I don't get a chance to post this very often but thank you to Southern Illinois for being so kind to my alma mater UTPA. I hope the boys from Edwardsville are enjoying the warm weather.

The one thing with Mark that would make me believe he would come back as a coach is he really seems to enjoy the game. I think he would make a great color commentator as well. But it seems more likely he would quietly retire.

The one thing with Mark that would make me believe he would come back as a coach is he really seems to enjoy the game. I think he would make a great color commentator as well. But it seems more likely he would quietly retire.

Since we have a thread started concerning Kerry, and he isn't everyone's first choice, who else should be considered?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 24, 2012 -> 11:04 AM) Q: Do you like pie? A: Hmm, pie is OK, but hey f*** cake. What did cake ever do for anyone? That cake is a horrible, evil little snack. And we would never start talking about other deserts in a pie thread lol keep trolling