Everything posted by Texsox
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Trayvon Martin
QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 23, 2012 -> 09:12 AM) He's not the first. To be fair to Geraldo, Treyvon was black. Doesn't everyone cross the street to avoid black youths?! Or a Hispanic with a gun?
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Matt Bush runs over biker, leaves scene
- Trayvon Martin
Here is an interesting thought, what would the law be if Martin was armed also and during the fight Zimmerman was killed? I would hope the same non arrest. That would mean in this situation, where both seem to fear the other, that there could be a shootout in the streets with neither person charged. Amazing.- Trayvon Martin
QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Mar 22, 2012 -> 04:18 PM) Police chief has temporarily resigned. In my opinion this a terrible application of the law, and that begs the question, why are the police interpreting law? Generally the job of the police is to make an arrest and then for the district attorney to apply the law and determine whether the charges should be brought. I still am unclear why a police officer would ever believe that were "prohibited" from making an arrest. Murder is a crime, self-defense, as most people would imagine, is a defense. Just because you have a defense, doesnt mean the police cant arrest you or that the DA cant try and convict you. Ultimately its the trier of fact who determines whether the defense should apply. At the end of the day, I expect charges to be filed. Maybe I am misunderstanding what you wrote, but how can the police not interpret the law? They have to arrest someone for something, that something would be their interpretation that a law was broken. The law seemingly gives people the right to defend themselves. The police would have to interpret which law to follow.- Catch-All Anything Thread
QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Mar 21, 2012 -> 03:56 PM) They are all relatively recent, but my wife has to get transcripts from five different schools. That is info hell.- How can they get away with this?
OMG.- Trayvon Martin
QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Mar 22, 2012 -> 12:56 PM) I know that murder is typically a state and not a Federal offense, but are there any grounds on which the Feds can go after him if the state refuses? I heard the feds are involved if it is a race crime. That seem to depend on the tape with so far has been inconclusive. If he uttered a racial slur seconds before the killing, as some people claim, then the feds can be involved.- Trayvon Martin
QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Mar 22, 2012 -> 01:42 PM) And by the way, the justifiable force statute is premised on the fact that YOU (the shooter) are not doing something illegal. I'd say starting a fight is an illegal activity (battery) making this entire statute inapplicable. Since there's some pretty strong evidence out there that the dead guy was being followed and harassed, it's entirely proper (and reasonable) for a jury to conclude that Zimmerman started the brawl, engaged in criminal activity (battery) and was therefore not afforded the protection of the statute. That's why my point 2 comments ago about punching people in the face to justify killing doesn't work. I hope you are correct. However, one example I read was a killing between two gang members. The killer was not charged because the prosecutors felt the other gang member (the killer) had a legitimate fear for his safety. Another prosecutor suggested that it was theoretically possible that two gang members in a beef could say, grab your gun meet me in the street in five minutes. In theory, the resulting killing would be covered by self defense. Each had a reasonable fear and was protecting themselves.- Trayvon Martin
The big change with the new law was the person is not required to retreat if possible. Under the old self defense laws, since Zimmerman was in a car he had an obligation to leave. Now the person can stand and defend. The law was passed to make it easier to defend yourself and stop arrests and prosecutions. Florida also has very loose gun laws. This is exactly what they have allowed with their laws. Florida and 20 other states want it easier to stand up for yourself instead of running from criminals. I can see why the guy was not arrested. He had injuries, he had reported a suspicious person. Now with the new information, the testimony from his girlfriend, (which cannot be collaborated or verified) I think they should make a new decision and arrest him. The other big problem I see is "feeling" threatened. Each of us have different fears and levels of fear. Lostfan in a hoodie caused my blood to run cold. Why should there be a sliding scale? Grandma from Ohio may, and possibly justifiably so, feel "threatened" where I would be "concerned" and Knight felt "comfortable". Why should grandma be allowed to fire her weapon and knot knight? And to be clear, I believe what Zimmerman did was morally wrong. But if the articles I read were accurate and the criteria is feeling threatened, and without any obligation to leave as was easily available, than it just may have been legal. And if that is the case, and states don't fix their laws, then God help us all.- 2012 Book Thread
The author has stated it is reality TV meets Roman gladiator.- Trayvon Martin
From people's reactions and what I read initially, I assumed Zimmerman was some retired old white guy not 28 and Hispanic. Also, from what I've read on the law in Florida, it seems to be more of a problem with the law than the police response. That law seems so wrong, I wonder how anyone would be convicted of murder.- Student Loans
I am 6.75 but with the consolidation they will drop .5- Reports: Illini hire John Groce
QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Mar 21, 2012 -> 01:11 PM) He didn't need an interview. He already had an offer. He wasn't going on TV with all this hanging in limbo. There are other programs and other opportunities. Those TV appearances set coaches up. Makes them known to the boosters and general public.- Reports: Illini hire John Groce
QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Mar 21, 2012 -> 11:01 AM) Shaka has agreed to do studio work for the tournament this weekend, starting tomorrow. This means 2 things IMO: 1) He'll have a decision made by today 2) He's not coming here I don't think he'd go on TV with this hanging and make that the storyline. I also fail to see how he'd accept a job and then be in the studio for the weekend. I think this just comes down to the fact he doesn't want to leave his little place in Richmond. It's not about the money, as we've reportedly offered enough. It's a much better job, all things considered, he just doesn't want the change. I know the perception will be Illinois is down because they didn't get him, but if we made a great offer and he wants to stay, that's on him. Minus maybe 4 programs (and even that's a maybe), Smart wouldn't leave his current position. I don't think it's Illinois in particular. IMO it's a dumb long term career move, but he's going to do what he wants depending on what makes him happy. If this is the case, time to move on, lot of good candidates and interest in the job. TV is best possible interview for any and all possible openings. He exposes himself to the major donors and ADs.- 2012 Book Thread
QUOTE (JPN366 @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 11:52 PM) Moneyball is 25 cents on the Amazon Kindle Store right now. I ran the price through my stats program and it is still statistically improbable I will read that book- 2012 Book Thread
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2012 -> 12:25 PM) I finished the King book on the plane ride home yesterday. Wow. Just amazing. So well written. I will swap you The Accountant's Story for the King book, interested?- 2012 Book Thread
I finished The Accountant's Story which was co-written by Roberto Escobar, brother of noted cocaine distributor, humanitarian, and community benefactor Pable Escobar. I was a little disappointed. I was hoping for more details on the business side of Escobar's operation. I was intrigued by the huge amounts of cash and how you deal with being an outlaw billionaire. Instead it is more of a retelling of the Escobar story from a more sympathetic voice. It is 274 pages and I finished it in a few hours. The story jumps around a bit and I needed to slow down in some areas to understand some of the twists.- Catch-All Anything Thread
How many people are employed whose job it is to provide transcripts? It is easier to prove citizenship than what grade I received for English 1401 in 1979.- Republican 2012 Nomination Thread
QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Mar 20, 2012 -> 04:02 PM) I'm not gaming the system. I'm operating squarely within its s***ty rules which unfortunately deprive me of voting today for the person I deem best qualified for each office, regardless of party. Furthermore, that "system" entitles all eligible individuals the freedom to cast their vote in secret for whomever they choose, and for any reason. Its really just the closed primary concept that's warped. I live in DuPage, where the Republican primary is tantamount to the general election for virtually every local office, so for my vote to really matter on local issues, I usually take a Republican ballot in most primaries. Personally, I think I'd much prefer a President Romney over a President Santorum, but I'm really no fan of either one. I'd rather see a protacted battle and an eventual floor fight, so that's how I'm voting on that particular race. I've admitted to that being hypocritcal, but I dispute that's its "gaming," which I consider more akin to cheating. Besides, even if broken, it's the best system anyone has come up with so far. I feel the same way. I know when I am voting here on the border that 90% of my precint will vote for the Dem candidate. If it is a statewide election, that the state will go for Kap's GOP candidate.- Catch-All Anything Thread
The official response I received was they needed to verify that all my credits were entered correctly. Which basically annoyed me that all this extra effort would have to be done by people at several Universities. What I am now believing is it is just easier to have the same requirements for all students no matter where they received their undergrad.- Illinois Votes
Have any of the multi-level marketing electricity suppliers entered the Illinois market? Down here I use Green Mountain 100% renewable to power the Exxon Valdez of coffee makers, my Keurig- Catch-All Anything Thread
QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Mar 20, 2012 -> 12:55 PM) You said credits are listed on your transcript from B, but what about the grades? Are those listed? Yes. Everything. They received an official transcipt when I applied for undergrad admission.- Catch-All Anything Thread
So I am applying to grad school, for my undergrad I attended two schools. I graduated from B, I am applying at B, why, after awarding me a degree, would B need to see my trannscript from A? The credits are listed on my official transcript from B already- Annual Soxtalk Bracket Challenge
Florida State killed me.- Reports: Illini hire John Groce
QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Mar 20, 2012 -> 10:09 AM) Tex did you not read his original post? That was the oversimplification. Grabbed the wrong quote. Sorry. - Trayvon Martin