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There's a winter Olympics? Yeah right, next thing y'all will tell me the NBA still holds a dunk contest.

They still do the dunk contest?

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jan 21, 2010 -> 01:05 PM) No... I had a problem with fisk trying to "one up" Deion. How is yelling and screaming like a lil girl at an opposing teams player just because he doesn't run to first as fast as he would have defending the integrity of the game? Deion should have defended his integrity and punched fisk in his grill. You have a very warped sense of right and wrong.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 22, 2010 -> 07:49 AM) Rock on. Ha! Nicely played Happy Birthday!!

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 23, 2010 -> 01:43 PM) hmmm...when I read washington's farewell address it kind of comes across as not so much political parties are bad as much as...that other political party is bad. Washington did not have a party affiliation. He did have Jefferson and Hamilton, both from opposite ends of the spectrum battling it out within his administration.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Jan 23, 2010 -> 05:39 AM) Basically I just use the Internet for free porn sites and SoxTalk And we appreciate it if you keep those two separate

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 22, 2010 -> 10:53 AM) The internet is noisy. People want to be heard over the din, so they yell louder. And louder, and louder. This combined with the unwillingness to dig into details, gives you the now pandemic need for people to exaggerate things to get a point across. This causes more polarity in people's words (both media and just plain people), and this is reflected in our politicians as well. Thus, the era of over reaction is really more accurately, the era of exaggeration to make a point. Its kind of sad, really. I agree. I also blame politics becoming a team sport with us versus them loyalties to political parties. It really hit home when I was teaching Washington's farewell address. Everything he predicted about political parties came true.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 21, 2010 -> 01:28 PM) As for this example, what is the difference between pharmaceutical advertisements pushing their products, and what the Tebow's and this organization are doing here? I need a physician to PRESCRIBE these drugs to me. I need to go into a doctor, and regardless of how badly I may want to take Lipitor, if I don't need it, or if it will likely do me harm because of some other health problem or some other drugs I am currently taking, that physician will not prescribe it to me. However, if I am a mother, and I am pregnant, and there is a significant or larger than customary risk involved in me taking that pregnancy to term, guess what? I can say F' off Dr. Jones, I am taking this pregnancy to term and that is my natural inalienable right in this country. So regardless of whether you agree, regardless of whether you beg and plead with me not to take this pregnancy to term, I am doing just that, and there is nothing you can do about it. And the mother can say, F' off Doc I'm having this baby with or without Tebow's ad. Do you really think that a mother does not understand that is an option? Do you really think that a Doctor would not discuss all options in this case? They can tell the Doctor to F' off, I'm not taking those drugs. You seem to be worried that she will have information that may suport a decision you disagree with. What made momma Tebow decide to accept the risks? Was it some ad on TV? This is a real life situation that people face. You may not find that decision difficult, you would just abort and move on at the slightest risk, for others it is not as clear cut. You would prefer someone makes this life or death decision after only receiving half of the information. Today, most people when faced with a difficult decision start researching, smart people research both sides. I'm not certain what I would recommend if it were my wife or daughter. I know I would support either decision. I would probably wish she would take the safe route. But I would definately want her to hear stories from both women who carried and women who aborted. I would want her to hear what went rigth and what went wrong. Sad that it seems it is easy to support the woman who aborts but if they are considering motherhood, even with risks, some people don't even want them to know it is an option. Not exactly support in my book. It takes more hubris than even Tex to tell someone what they should and should not be informed of in making a medical decision.

f***, do you people see all the pharmaceutical ads that run? Where the hell is the outrage over all the drug pushing? In 30 seconds they list some symptoms so you can diagnose yourself, then tell you what drug to take. And no one here has ever mentioned it. But an add that no one has even seen, raises this much s***?!

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 21, 2010 -> 12:25 AM) The entire point is that this is not some simple decision. This is NOT like Danica Patrick trying to sell me a domain name. This is NOT like some sports-playing clydesdales trying to sell me beer. This is NOT Britney Spears trying to sell me a soft drink. The reason those messages work so well in a commercial forum is that the messages are inspiring us to do something extremely trivial. Something that should take about 30 seconds of thought to decide on. Something that if I make an error in judgment, because I believed everything that was said or portrayed in the 30 seconds, will only result in me having wasted a few bucks and experiencing a beer I really didn't like. What Tim Tebow, his mother, and this organization are attempting to do is sell us their beliefs and their product in 30 seconds, just like Doritos, GoDaddy.com, and Anheuser-Busch. However, their message is much more serious, much more impactful, much more personal, and MUCH MORE COMPLEX than something that fits well in between a Doritos commercial, a Pepsi Commercial, and a bunch of families and friends sitting around the living room trying to forget about what a crappy world we live in right now. Instead, I have to sit and listen to Tim Tebow, some holy rolling jock, tell me that if my wife or mother or girlfriend or whomever, is facing medical risk due to a pregnancy, that she should gamble with her life in the hopes of birthing the next Heisman Trophy winner. Well, I'm sorry, that message just isn't meant to be given in 30 seconds to a bunch of Americans trying to enjoy themselves on a Sunday afternoon/evening. And who the f*** am I, you ask? Well I'm not going on tv telling other people what to do. I'm not trying to shove my beliefs down the minds of others by putting my big mug in front of them in a forum traditionally saved for selling $3 bags of chips and guilt-tripping pregnant mothers with risk of injury or their lives to do what I tell them to do. Tim Tebow has every right to his opinion, and he can try and use him fame and notoriety to make as much wealth or do as much good as his little heart desires. But don't use it for the wrong reasons, and don't try and turn something so complex as a medical risk decision into a damned 30 second guilt trip during a day which is traditionally a carefree and fun day for Americans. As for your point about violence and sex on tv and in video games, there is a time and place for everything. The world as we live in it is not a perfect place. It involves violence and sex and some bad things. The best we can do, other than shelter our children from it until adulthood (so that they freak out when they encounter it in reality), is to compartmentalize it into a certain place where parents know where to expect it, and therefore have a chance to make a decision about whether to allow their children to consume it on their own. What the Tebow's and this organization are doing, is springing themselves on an American public hoping to enjoy an afternoon of football and creative advertising, along with family and friends, without them expecting it. Then perhaps all the children watching the game will start asking questions, and young couples faced with the decision will think, well, the Tebow's did it, and look how Tim turned out (I know, I exaggerate). Honestly, there is a time and a place for this message, and it is not during the Super Bowl. And finally, what do you say to the widowed husband, whose wife took the pregnancy to term and passed-away during labor, leaving him with 2 small children and no wife or mother? Should he do the commercial for the next Super Bowl? Maybe we can have him on the screen with pictures of his dead wife and his mourning children. Sound good? Who are you to tell me what I should and should not listen to? Freedom of speech is too big of an issue for you to even have an opinion on, so why are you trying to push your views on me? This is far more important that what beer I drink. And in your example You also make damn certain that that widower does not meet anyone in that same situation who moved past that and successfully raised the kids. Knowing someone else went through the same thing would be terrible. Why should non beer drinker or alcoholic be subjected to beer ads when they are trying to have a fun afternoon watching a game? Sorry that someone suggesting that choosing LIFE would be so revolting and sickening to some of the people here.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 09:47 PM) What does that have to do with the way someone thinks of a player as a person? Ty Cobb by almost all accounts was a piece of s*** of a human being, but he was great at baseball. Since I have respect for the game, does that mean I can't think of him as an asshole? Nothing. You have to read both the post and the quoted material to understand the context in which it was written. The comment was in response to a situation. That Fisk should have stayed out of another team's player's business. Fisk has said he was defending the integrity of the game or something like that. You can think he's an asshole, that's your opinion. I was defending Fisk's decision to one up Neon Deon for whatever reason. Interestingly, the original poster would have had no problem if punches were thrown, but yelling was out of line.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jan 19, 2010 -> 06:58 PM) Student Teaching. what subject? What grade?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 06:32 PM) Despite what you have been told, size always matters. The last fist fight I was in, circa 1982, was over that very matter. And perhaps there was a free speech issue there as well.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 06:18 PM) free speech has nothing to do with what a private company decides to air on the most watched tv program of the year. Really? So the size of the audience matters?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 06:07 PM) I'm glad we can always count on the French to be... well French. http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/285993 They are still pissed they sold us the Louisiana Territory for $15 mil, then we later bought a much, much, smaller area from Mexico for $10 mil.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 05:57 PM) Hypothetically speaking, how would you react if a group ran an ad encouraging women to end a pregnancy if their doctor advises it? Say, they brought out a famous woman who had received that diagnosis and made that decision. I think it would be even more valuable than this one. That choice, I would hope, would be a very difficult one and the woman, and her family, would probably need some support. Either path that is chosen involves risks and emotional stress.

QUOTE (DaveBrown85 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 05:18 PM) those dogs are actually pretty good The local C-Store to me, Stripes, makes very good breakfast tacos, and decent fajitas at lunch. The burritos are cheap, but not too good. The hot dogs seem to be ignored.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 04:18 PM) Honestly, I think it is the fact that it is Tebow and his family that are the ones presenting a message. Similar to what Soxy posted earlier. Who the f*** are Tim Tebow and his mother to try and influence me on such a personal, intimate decision such as that? Basically, they are trying to capitalize on Tebow's accomplishments as an amatuer football player to influence people on their choice on something this personal. That will turn a lot of people off. The reason this is different than, and more offensive to some than, say a Doritos or Budweiser commercial, is because they are trying to influence our decision on something as important as abortion with a celebrity spokesman or athlete, just like they do for something as trivial as what kind of snacks we enjoy at lunch or what kind of beer we have after a tough day at work. I think it has a lot more to do with the Tebow's and this organization using a forum usually reserved for far-less important issues and butting their way into our party time. To someone facing the same choice as the Tebow's faced, and my heart goes out to them, there is some value in the message. Perhaps seeing what other women (perhaps couples) have gone through may be of some help and assistance. I'm surprised Soxy does not see any value in examples, both pro and con. Seeing others that have been through the same thing someone is facing can be wonderful support. I thought that is one basis for group therapy, but I may have been sleeping that day in class. Do you think someone with ALS might look towards Lou Gehrig for some inspiration? Someone with a terminal disease reading about Brian Piccolo or Walter Payton. From cancer survivors to weight loss champions, there is value in that. If the debate raises awareness regarding birth control and unwanted pregnancy, it has served a useful purpose. I have no words for those that believe abortion is a reasonable form of birth control. I do not believe someone should have to give up their rights of free speech because they are famous. Who are you to tell someone who to vote for? Who are you to share your opinion on a message board? Who are you to speak about anything? You are a human being and you should have that right. Just as we have the right to ignore you. Tim Tebow is someone who has an opinion and by stating his opinion, he can make a much bigger difference, good and bad, than other people. I believe he should be careful in how he uses that power, as I would say to anyone else. Who are the athletes that advocate for staying in school, not smoking or doing drugs. Isn't that a personal choice? I can't believe this ad gets people more upset than all the violence towards women on TV and in video games. Urging a woman to choose life over death -- Bad. Killing or raping a few women for hours in a video game? Cool And it's not like he's a random spokesperson. What a shame that so many toss away our right to free speech so easily.

Just Say No Stop Smoking Say No to Abortion Vote! Stay in School I guess it will the context that some of you see this message. I have not seen much backlash against Say No To Drug campaigns. We've had anti smoking messages, NFL stay in school etc. Is someone seriously advocating that there should be more abortions? Come on. To be balanced should there be more drop out of school messages? Choose Life seems like a fairly good message. I guess if some group wants to fund a Choose Death message, I'd argue it should be shown as well. Why people are so bent out of shape about seeing a pro life message but not seeing pornography, violence, or any other issue seems silly. Give us dozens of people killing each other, We want to see blood and "realistic violence" but NOOOOOOOOOOOOO not a pro life message. THAT is too disturbing to our delicate psych!

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 10:33 AM) For $500k, I am not worried at all. If he sucks, cut him. If we get something out of him, we are golden. QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 10:37 AM) Good to hear, but there seems to be a glut of positive spin Sox stories out there. Danks circulation problem...check. Linebrink ready to go...check. Jones in great shape (no need for another DH)...check. Rios's swing is perfect after five swings...check. It's all good for now, and I'm looking forward to this season, but I'm not buying into all of the hype. I'll believe the hype when translates to wins in April. QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 10:47 AM) If you prefer doom & gloom, just read Soxtalk! Yep, and I was just thinking at least Bobby hasn't been arrested . . .

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 01:54 PM) Congress is doing a lot more damage in this country than the Presidents have. And that is our system. As I have often said, the president gets far too much credit, and far too much blame, for what happens in this country. Reagan and Clinton excelled as cheerleaders, and the country did well during their terms. It may be a symbiotic relationship, but I think you need that ability to make Americans feel good about America.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 02:00 PM) People like that don't need to be run out, but they dont need to be celebrated, either. Agreed 100%, but just like there are some REPs you cringe at, there are some liberals. Actually, there are probably more loony libs than skin head crazy REPs

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 02:42 PM) So why was it not ok to run an ad questioning great master W? ?? filll in some blanks for me.

QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Jan 20, 2010 -> 02:07 PM) so would it be cool for a KKK guy to stand up for what he believes in for a Super Bowl Ad? How about a Successionist? Nazi? Pro-Drug Supporter? NAMBLA? Why can't everyone just sit down, enjoy something together, without one side trying to capitalize it to their benefit? Or child abuse prevention, stay in school messages, United Way, anti drug, anti smoking, pick your examples. You have no problem with advertisers capitalizing on which beer to drink or car to drive? Every ad is pushing something for their benefit. This one isn't asking you to buy something.

I'm just not feeling Thome returning. I wish him luck.