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QUOTE (Jerksticks @ May 5, 2014 -> 12:04 PM) Carlos Gomez is valuable but few would argue he's one of the best players in the game. I guess whether you take him or trout is a coin flip? No, I would take Mike Trout 10 times out of 10. Carlos Gomez is better than a lot of people realize now a days - he's fantastic defensively, steals bases, hits for average, and hits for power - but Mike Trout is a better player. Frankly, I don't think it'd be a stretch to say that Gomez is one of the 10 best positional players in the game, though I'd gladly listen to arguments. He still doesn't beat Trout.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 4, 2014 -> 03:45 PM) "Xbox One, on" "Play Mlb the show 2014" "Trades off" You idiot, MLB The Show 2014 is a PS exclusive

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ May 5, 2014 -> 10:06 AM) I think it's pointless as a tool to rank superstars or even good players, and should never be used as an end-all for determining value. We already know good players are good, because they produce. You can't say player A is "better" than every other player with a lower WAR because players have different jobs. I think it's an excellent tool for finding value in non-superstar players when constructing a team but I doubt front offices give one hoot about WAR. I think it does that job just fine. It suggests that Mike Trout is the best player in the game. I think that's pretty undeniable. It also says that, even with the limitations of him playing 1B, Miguel Cabrera is the 2nd best player and the best hitter. It states that (when he's healthy, obviously) that Clayton Kershaw is the best pitcher in the league. I understand if people don't want to use it as an end all, be all, but I think it does a great job distinguishing players' values.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 28, 2014 -> 06:28 PM) He could go .500/75/225 and have a 9.0 WAR because of bad baserunning? Give me a break. How is his defense? My guess is that if he hit .500/.75/225, he'd put up a WAR right around 15, which would frankly be the best season in the history of the game, regardless of his base running and defense because the offensive output would be worth about 200 run shares.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ May 5, 2014 -> 09:50 AM) Yes! You are on to something. It's time to make WAR smart...instead of the big pot of chili it is. If WAR became smart more people would frickin love it. Please tell me why it's not smart using actual evidence.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Apr 28, 2014 -> 06:28 PM) I'm saying someone who's primarily a hitter should have a weighted batting WAR, the Gordon Beckhams of the world should have a weighted fielding WAR, the Adam Eatons a weighted baserunning WAR. The point of WAR is to quantify a player's overall contributions to a team so that we can compare people who run the bases well to starting pitchers to strong fielders and to good hitters. It's not going to be weighted more heavily to his batting statistics because the weight of his production won't shift either just because he's a strong hitter. This is how we determine what kinds of things baseball players are good at. Jose Abreu's WAR currently is shifted highly because he's been a good hitter. It shouldn't shift further because he's a good hitter - that doesn't make logical sense. It is adjusted because he plays 1B because it just so happens that it's easy to find guys who can play 1B, so they stick guys with big bats there who can't field otherwise. If you could, you'd play everybody at 2B or SS, but that doesn't make a lot of sense for big, lumbering bodies. Under the logic you present, what would happen if Jose Abreu had a bad season offensively? Would it be doubly bad? That shouldn't be because it should just indicate what he's done on the field and nothing more.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ May 2, 2014 -> 04:33 PM) Are the Bulls getting Melo? YES

QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ May 2, 2014 -> 04:01 PM) Let's use Common Core to solve Marty's riddle. Of the last 17 World Series winning teams, 12 of them had farm systems rated in the bottom 10. Of the last 15 World Series winning teams, 9 of them had at least one veteran contract that wasn't on the post season roster. Over the past 10 seasons, the 50 teams in that time span to be placed in the top-5 in farm systems based on Baseball America rankings - have combined for a 2430-5670 record. The White Sox were in seventh place in the Baseball America farm system rankings when Sally took her brother to the Walgreens to buy Gummy Bears. If Rick Hahn promises Sox fans to improve the farm system seven-fold in five years, how many Gummy Bears can Sally and her brother eat before the White Sox have a top-5 farm system while winning the world series and not having any bad veteran contracts? You are just dialed in right now.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 2, 2014 -> 02:10 PM) This is like Christmas if everyone was beaten and robbed on Christmas So pretty much a normal Christmas in the wite household

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 2, 2014 -> 02:09 PM) This should get everyone pumped. I know I just went from 6 to 12.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 2, 2014 -> 12:32 PM) Trayce Thompson will probably replace him next year. Honestly, releasing Phipps or Tekotte makes way more sense than getting rid of Mitchell.

Here's a nice quote from Dave Cameron via The Hardball Times http://www.hardballtimes.com/10-things-i-l...seball-economy/ This was the point during the Santana/Jimenez/Voldemort discussions, and it will still hold true moving forward. If signing a pitcher makes sense in both the short and long term, even if the team won't be certain of winning in 2015, they will do so. They can also trade for a pitcher, and this has been the preferred method in the past (and my guess is that it will be the preferred method moving forward too. While there are certain risks you take giving up players while also assuming contractual obligations to the pitcher, it's usually not with the trade off of an immediate 6-7 year backloaded commitment, so they are minimizing long-term risk). But, if cost or age or length of deal or injury concerns or compensation concerns arise, it simply may not be economical to make such a move. As the classic economist phrase goes: it depends.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 2, 2014 -> 11:08 AM) Here are the options in my opinion. 1. Rodon goes 1:1 and gets paid. 2. Rodon goes later and takes slightly over slot money. 3. Rodon doesn't go #1, demands #1 money, and goes back to NC State. I always get reminded of Aaron Crow around this time of year, declining the Nationals offer as a college senior and going to play Independent ball for a year.

QUOTE (LDF @ May 2, 2014 -> 10:36 AM) If I remember correctly sale was passed by teams b/c of fear of injury risk to his throwing arm..... we got lucky and did a roll of the dice. however I do not see the sox org explaining why he did not someone. unless of course if its the company line of We believe this player has more upside. Some was that, some was contract demands, and some was the belief that he'd only make it as a reliever at the next level.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 2, 2014 -> 10:08 AM) To be fair by this standard The White Sox never have hired anyone who fits that description. Wilder was hired and fired long before he was serving time. Ohhhhhhh, with the technicality!

QUOTE (shakes @ May 2, 2014 -> 09:44 AM) Did you just post something knowingly false? According to the guidelines of this site "You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this bulletin board to post any material which is knowingly false." Can I get an admin ruling on this? Well, to be fair, the Cardinals never did hire a a farm director who ended up in prison for skimming money. Of course, the White Sox did not either, as Dave Wilder was the Director of Player Personnel and Senior Director of Player Personnel in his time with the White Sox. He oversaw Latin American operations.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ May 1, 2014 -> 08:32 PM) I'm saying the reason he got so much crap wasn't because he had hype or gave himself a nickname. It's because he was really f***ing good and took quite a while to get a title. Obviously the Decision took it to another level for those first two Miami years. Harold Miner and Isaiah Rider were supposed to be the next Jordan two, but I bet a bunch of people on this board don't even remember them. s***, Harold Miner and Isaiah Rider both won the slam dunk competition. I remember from the slam dunk winners poster on my wall as a kid. Brent Barry was the first white boy to do it.

Haha, no idea what I was thinking. Nasty DLine, obviously, thanks Jas.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ May 1, 2014 -> 04:29 PM) Yeah, if you want to trade up into the first round, you better really like the player you are getting. Probably a QB. I text with a Vikings fan and he asked me who I think the Bills would be trading up for (because they're reportedly interested in Watkins). All I said was that the only guy worthy of trading up for in this draft, at least at the top, is Clowney, and that's if you believe [you can/he will] translate his talent onto the field because he could be an absolute monstrosity. I think he can and will, others don't. Clowney and M. Williams bookending a three headed trio of Dareus, K. Williams, and Branch makes for a nasty, nasty OLine, plus you can also still rush Hughes off the edge too.

QUOTE (ChrisLikesBaseball @ May 1, 2014 -> 04:17 PM) Hope I'm not hijacking the thread here but it's on-topic.. Are there any statistical studies that support the need to consider handedness in line up construction? I get the concept, but I have to wonder whether it is an overrated consideration and/or if teams are ridiculously overpaying just to have a "power lefty" in their lineup. Actually, it was discussed on here a little bit. Basically, the most effective lineup is one that alternates between left and right throughout the lineup (much like the Sox). I don't know if or how much of that is affected by starting pitchers, but it wears out bullpens.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 1, 2014 -> 03:22 PM) Forman and Thibs aren't exactly buddies. It wouldn't shock me if they would do this, but it kind of would shock me if the Lakers did this. They need players. Then they can take Carlos Boozer too.

QUOTE (Tmar @ May 1, 2014 -> 02:31 PM) Wat no way it's not Japanese, Jose says only Japanese rpgs are good He obviously hasn't played Real Housewives of Orange County. You unlock a trophy/achievement (depending on which console) after hammering 50 martinis and staying on your feet. It's called "Hammer Time" on the 360.

This is very much worth reading http://www.hardballtimes.com/18259/

QUOTE (Tmar @ May 1, 2014 -> 01:58 PM) No way, he just plays offline mode in real housewives of Orange county the game I would also play a game that IGN rated a 9.4.

QUOTE (TRU @ May 1, 2014 -> 12:25 PM) So since there is going to be quite a few of us with Playstation 4's and MLB The Show, how about we get a Soxtalk online franchise set up? Yesssssssssss PS4 on the truck for delivery today