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Barons' Team History I'd assume that would be the incident I have seen fathom eluding to in the past. Kemp got hit in the 8th, and that caused the game to end in a forfeit.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Apr 18, 2007 -> 03:25 PM) I don't care... Sosa did absolutely nothing bad to us and we weren't even divison rivals. do you cheer for Jason Giambi or Barry Bonds?

at 1:30 in the morning, I was yelling in my basement with both my parents having gone to bed and my brother getting ready. PK rolled over the ball and GIDPed, and I threw a chair into my couch. Then Blum

QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Apr 18, 2007 -> 01:53 PM) ????? Bad blood between Matt Kemp and the White Sox. That's all I know, but I know no details.

There's a story about Matt Kemp. Fathom's mentioned it, and someone knows.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Apr 18, 2007 -> 11:36 AM) Not justifying the weatehr because it is BS to do so but I think it is easier to get up for the playoffs then a game on April 17th. The amazing thing was there is a decent crowd out there 3 years ago you could hear yourself think out there on days like these. It should be standard procedure to be able to get a base hit, 20 degrees or 120 degrees.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Apr 18, 2007 -> 02:04 AM) It's an agree to disagree basis for me wite. The solo shot has me the most disgusted since it usually seems that about 25-30% of that 200+ have been solos just to the untrained eye/casual fan thats watched most of the games in the past 6+ years. Homers might be the most effected but I would love the occasional two bagger with people on base, maybe a single every once in a while. Is a triple for a slap hitter too much to ask? There's a difference between the increase of an out trying to hit a homerun/pulling a pitch/hitting the ball with everything you got than there is just to hit a basehit/go with the pitch/see a gap and try to go with it basically. While I will never complain about a homerun by all means but hitting 200+ specifically with noone on base... not cool. You're agreeing to agree. All I was saying was that if they get on base at a good rate - singles to the outfield, infield singles, bunt singles, doubles, triples, walks, hit batters, or whatever other forms of getting on base you can possibly imagine - they can hit 200 homers and I'm not going to complain, and neither will you. The difference between last year's entire offensive output and 2005's entire offensive output was 20 points in OBP (.322 to .342) and 59 points of OPS (.747 to .806). That's as big of a reason as any as to why the 2006 team scored 127 more runs. Add to the fact that the Sox have been absolutely horrendous at stealing bases the past two years, and you have to figure that they lost quite a few runs both years, and that goes without saying. What I understand you're complaining about goes to their offensive approach to hit a homer every time they go up. That I won't disagree with, because I've already agreed with what you're saying hundreds of times. They need to look to get on base more than they are without looking to hit the home run every time. If they are pitching you away, away, away, it's a much better idea to go with the ball and put it into RF then to try and pull it and roll it to the SS all day long. and for the matter, there is no disagreeing with the fact that a homer is the most effecient way to score a run, because that is indeed a fact; you will never in the game of baseball find a way to score 1 run any more effeciently than by hitting a home run. and also, on a somewhat lighter note - even considering it's an untrained or casual eye - if 25-30% were solo shots, I'd love it. That would mean the Sox were getting about 484 runs off of homers; using 30% of 236; that leads to 70.8, so that's approx. 71 runs. I then figure 2.5 R (because 2, 3, and 4 runs are not going to come on homers equally) * 165.2 is 413, so simple arithmetic brings us to 484. It's not an exact science, and I'm obviously not sure of the exact numbers or what a better number is that I should use - probably around 2.25 or perhaps just multiply the entire figure by like 1.75 or what I should do exactly, but regardless, 25-30% would seem great considering the White Sox were on base 1910 times without including home runs. I would guess it was closer to 40%, but that's really nothing more than a guess and a little bit of research behind it. QUOTE(caulfield12 @ Apr 18, 2007 -> 02:13 AM) Wouldn't it be be better to spend $2-3 million and lure the Twins' Director of Scouting away from them....which would be better, having Pods/Cintron/Mackowiak, or an investment that keeps paying you back over time, one that's not depreciating? "There were a whole lot of 'what ifs' in the game," Garland said. "Mentally, I didn't stay on it. I gave up, and it showed." Nice quote Garland...I hope it was taken out of context, because it doesn't sound very encouraging on the surface of it. Scouting only does so much. I think the Sox scouting is fine, because they've produced quite a bit of talent over the past 5-7 years. Talent only goes so far in any aspect of life. What the Sox need to do is to start developing this talent, because that's something they have not done in a long while. Since Maggs and CLee, what type of hitting talent have the Sox developed that has stuck at the MLB level and produced well? Crede and Rowand have both had one nice year, and I honestly, for the life of me, can't think of a single other that has produced well. Could you imagine what Minnesota would have done with Joe Borchard? Yikes.

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ Apr 17, 2007 -> 07:05 AM) Thought this message from a Yankees' fan was funny! Garland is horrible... This is the worst trade ever! Did you forget that the WhiteSox have Iguchi at 2nd? He isnt as good as Cano but he is a pretty good player. Sheeesh.... Cano is worth a lot more than an average pitcher. They want bad trades, how about Esteban Loaiza for Jose Contreras? Or Nick Johnson, Juan Rivera, and Randy Choate for a near 5.00 ERA version of Javier Vazquez? Or how about Jeff Weaver, Yhency Brazoban, and a minor leaguer (who never made it to the majors) for Kevin Brown? Or Javier Vazquez, Brad Halsey, and Dioner Navarro for Randy Johnson? Or maybe I should start talking about Jaret Wright, Carl Pavano, Tony Womack, and Rondell White? Or do those not count because they can sign every player that hits the market and not feel the ramifications? It'd be bad for the Yankees, no doubt, but they'd be able to replace Cano's production, and Garland would give them, at the very least, a stable pitcher in their rotation until the day they let him go. It's not like they're trading a horse that was a huge reason a team won a World Series for a long reliever.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Apr 17, 2007 -> 11:29 PM) SAY HELLO TO YOUR NEW LEADOFF HITTER CHICAGO!!! .171/.239/.244/.483 That's right you are not seeing things, that's a .483 OPS! But who cares!? He'll grind the s*** out of your face. I can't legally take anything away from Erstad. Pretend I can for a second. Erstad's line without his leadoff homer .150/.222/.150/.372 so if CC gets him out, well

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Apr 18, 2007 -> 01:10 AM) About a week ago he was on with Boers and Bernstein, the three of them were putting together his resume, he apparently decided some time recently that he's going to look for a front office job somewhere. You should really go back and download that interview off the Score's website, his ideals on how to construct a front office are just perfect, he knows exactly what he's doing and whatever team hires him is going to be VERY pleased. He also told a great story about Chip Carey and Ron Santo during the show, definitely worth listening to. I'm not sure what date the interview took place on but I know it was the same day Jason Schmidt injured himself. April 9th and if you are able to locate that, I'd be interested in hearing it as well. I tried looking and I can't find s*** on that site.

thanks for going down Mike Mussina; I got to add Ramon Ortiz to my fantasy team!

if the Sox are going to let Erstad leadoff for more than 20 games, can they atleast trade Buehrle and call up Floyd before May so I can win my f***ing bet with Willie?

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Apr 17, 2007 -> 11:52 PM) I am not a fan of our little 200+ homers a season streak. Just throwing that out there. I love it. Homers are the most effecient method of producing runs. The Yankees have scored 800 runs every year this decade, and they've hit 200 homers every year this decade. It's not a coincidence. BUT the only year they didn't score 870+ runs was also the only year their team OBP wasn't above .350. In fact, it was .334. Is that coincidental dude? No, not in the least. This year's White Sox team will be no different in the home run department. However, seeing as how they have the second worst OPS in the AL (to Oakland), and the fact that they have been caught stealing more times than most teams and have one of the worst stolen base percentages of teams in the league already makes it perfectly clear as to why this team can't do s*** offensively. Homers are not the problem. The goal to hit a 5-run homer with no one on base is the problem, and it has been since July of last season. QUOTE(ChiSox35 @ Apr 18, 2007 -> 12:31 AM) It's weird to see this going down with our offense cause in my MVP season Pods has been lighting it up, but Gooch, Konerko, and especially Dye have been lighting it up like a caveman starting fire for the first time with a rock and some twigs. I'm taking a bat to my gamecube. that should have been your first option QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Apr 18, 2007 -> 12:21 AM) Sigh...... I said it in a chat one day Irish, that's the guy I wanted the Sox to throw like a $750K at come the offseason. It's overpaying, and I don't give a s***. He's amazing at what he does. The Sox take good hitters and make them s***ty. Why do I not think that will work?

Robinson Tejeda - 7 IP, 3 H, 4 BB, 3 K; 100 pitches Just don't understand. It's patience at the plate; I would assume he was a bit wild if he allowed more f***ing walks than hits. It's actually putting good swings on the ball; that's 3 hits against a guy who opponents hit .288 off of last year. It's horrible hitting all together. Fire Walker, and then fire Erstad. This offense has been a joke for 4 months.

Fire Darin Erstad

QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Apr 17, 2007 -> 02:27 PM) That's still horrible though, and it was a huge part of us not winning the division. There were several factors that that team didn't win. Add any two of them together and the team does win. I mean, good leadoff hitter for the first half of the year, Billy Koch not existing, Mark Buehrle's 2-10 start, 4 1-run losses in Loaiza starts, mediocrity against s***ty teams; that team was amazingly talented, but it just flat out choked.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Apr 17, 2007 -> 06:01 PM) One of my Scouting lists reported that one of the wounded was an Eagle Scout and applied emergency first aid to himself and probably saved his own life. That's incredible. Hopefully he makes it all the way back, but that is wonderful.

QUOTE(RME JICO @ Apr 17, 2007 -> 02:31 PM) Don't worry, Greg Walker has scouting videos on him. Thome and Dye will be watching TV instead of the scouting videos

QUOTE(kane0730 @ Apr 17, 2007 -> 04:19 PM) Maybe they can showcase Logan a bit and trade for some OF help. or Erstad could be released, DFAed or DLed not to be a cold, heartless asshole, just saying it would help

Garland career VS Tex 4-6, 5.49 ERA, 1.55 WHIP in 15 games (14 GS) Tejada career VS Sox 0 games

Neifi Perez

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Apr 16, 2007 -> 09:17 PM) I prefer the storyline where Ozzie Guillen just hates young players, white players and has a baseless vendetta against Brian Anderson BECAUSE HE'S A COMMUNIST I GUESS, WOT ELSE WOULD IT BE? that's just part of it dude, settle down

QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Apr 16, 2007 -> 08:52 PM) That whole Sox winter ball in Venezuela episode was a fiasco last winter. Razor Shines was fired, the rest of the Sox players walked off the team and Anderson along with I think at least one other player got seriously ill. The Sox should stay away from playing down there anyway. Don't they have winter ball in Puerto Rico or Mexico? Yeah, but the White Sox have nothing to gain by playing in Puerto Rico or Mexico. The good young talent in Latin America is almost exclusively coming in from the Dominican and Venezuela, with your occasional exception coming in from Panama (Caballo) or Colombia (Renteria). Ozzie is Venezuelan, so they were trying to capitalize on that opportunity and attract young players to the White Sox organization. It doesn't appear as though it's worked out quite yet, but they'll continue trying and hopefully something can be worked out. QUOTE(rafacosta @ Apr 16, 2007 -> 08:56 PM) Well, when I meant that he acted like a star was not adapting to the country and missing the american cuisine, culture, etc and not willing to interact with the local culture. I strongly feel that Ozzie is mainly upset with him because of all this Venezuela stuff. I am pretty sure that BA was saying some bad stuff about the country behind Ozzie and Ozzie got to know that. Of course BA will not criticize in front of the media otherwise he would be in bad shape. See, that makes a ton of sense in the world to me, and it just would not surprise me that Ozzie would make this his political agenda. Because he does not like Anderson, because Anderson likely said some unfavorable and outright wrong things to say about a country, he won't play him. It may have to do with work ethic as well, but I can see this as being the main reason, I really can. I don't have any insight into this situation, so what I'm saying is complete conjecture, but it makes sense to me, and if true, and if Anderson won't play winterball in Venezuela next year, I see him gone in a heartbeat, whether right or wrong (and I actually think it's right, because he's is going against his employer's orders for him and he is disrespecting the organization. It sucks for Anderson right now, but it's about following customs and eating properly. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he knows exactly why he got sick).

QUOTE(rafacosta @ Apr 16, 2007 -> 08:36 PM) Coming back to BA. Isn't strange that he doesnt want to play winter league because he got a stomach virus down there in Venezuela? How many US players go to play there and don't have any problem? I think he should know better before criticizing the manager's home country. From what I see is that Ozzie does not want him to play because he went to Venezuela and acted like a star and pussy. I don't know if you can say he acted like a star and a pussy. Anderson got sick and lost 20 pounds due to his illness; I'd imagine the last thing on his mind at that point in time was baseball and showing up everyone in the country. How he got sick is an entirely different story, but he was sick nonetheless. Regardless, that's something I really hadn't considered. Ozzie definitely seems to be a very proud Venezuelan, and Anderson refusing to play there - even if because of his health - is an insult to Ozzie. I imagine I'd be insulted too, but it still doesn't give him the right to not play him, because quite frankly it's two different arguments, and they should come to some sort of compromise. Perhaps if he were to go play in Venezuela, and he stayed healthy, he'd be out of Ozzie's doghouse. I don't know if that would be something Ozzie would keep a bias against a player for or not.

Could be the strength and conditioning coach as well.