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Very simple...we started out trying to acquire major league ready talent (Top 75-100 milb) a half decade ago for Peavy. We incubated that talent but for a number of reasons no longer have a long term asset in the prime of his career under team control. Here we are...yet again. Now we need to turn around and sacrifice an important piece (Colome) in his own right for 2020 in order to compete in RF...meanwhile, we have five minor leaguers who are potentially capable of playing RF but none less than a year (and arguably even longer away.) We are always stuck in between. We won’t give Ozuna 4-5 years because of the argument that one of the minor leaguers could develop. Meanwhile, we risk wasting yet another season out of Moncada, Anderson, Giolito, Jimenez, McCann, etc. Still feels like another version of mired in mediocrity...albeit with a vastly more talented and young offensive core. The thread in general is about whether we should trade Colome. Colome today is pretty much the equivalent value of Jake Peavy (especially considering Jake’s contract and injury issues) back then.

Renteria admitted to James Fegan that Leury Garcia had “barking legs” and yet he still sent him on that attempted hit and run in the 9th...

Dr. Brian Schulz said the latest research shows that after a first-time UCL reconstruction, about 80 percent of professional baseball players return to their previous level or progress beyond it. The success rate after a revision surgery represents a dip, though not a massive one. A study published last year in the Journal of Shoulder and Elbow Surgery reviewed 93 “revision” surgeries and found that roughly 63 percent of those players returned to their prior rung of competition. ... According to Jon Roegele’s database of reported operations, the former top prospect became the 101st professional or high-level amateur player known to require multiple Tommy John surgeries since 1991. The list of one-time patients such as Kirby is roughly 15 times longer. https://theathletic.com/958536/2019/05/02/the-outlook-for-repeat-tommy-john-patients-has-improved-but-will-that-hold-true-for-anderson-espinoza/

Another example to support the idea of trading Colome is the Hand for Mejia deal. At the time of that deal, Mejia was #26/32/59 on all the Top 100 lists. While they discovered one of the better closers in the league in Yates (26/27 saves), moving him to the back end put a ton of pressure and increased workload on their 7th/8th inning guys and, as a consequence, that bullpen has really fallen apart the last 4-6 weeks. It’s inarguably that there’s considerable doubt on whether the White Sox already possess a reliever in-house who could put up those same numbers (to Colome/Yates.) I guess we’re back in the position of needing the equivalent of 2012 Avi Garcia If we’re not signing Marcell Ozuna.

But Madrigal played all the way through the College World Series...Vaughn's last game was June 1st, so that would be four weeks without seeing legit pitching. "Ever since the Draft, I tried to stay focused with our college season and let that play out first," Madrigal told reporters during a conference call. "I was excited just to put the White Sox logo on, get in uniform. "I really don't need a whole lot of break. I've been playing all season long. I told them I only needed a couple of days to swing a wood bat, get used to it. I'm ready to go and just excited to move forward." Madrigal, 21, batted .367/.428/.511 with eight doubles, six triples, three home runs, 34 RBIs, 41 runs scored and 15 stolen bases in 42 games as a junior in 2018 for the Beavers. The 5-foot-7, 165-pound second baseman, who bats right-handed, will play a couple of games at shortstop in Arizona before moving to Class A Kannapolis. Arizona should be his first destination since it’s closest to California and then they’ll decide after a week about short season ball or Kanny based on how rusty he looks.

His lay-off has now been long enough they should probably follow a similar path. In introducing Adley Rutschman today, the top pick in the 2019 First-Year Player Draft, Oriolesexecutive vice president and general manager Mike Elias said Rutschman would begin his pro career in the rookie-level Gulf Coast League and then move on to short season Single-A Aberdeen. “He’s won a lot of awards this summer for his accomplishments in college and he’s got a few more,” Elias said at today’s press conference at Camden Yards. “Then we’ll send him to our spring training facility in Sarasota, Fla. Join the Gulf Coast League roster for a slow on-boarding process after the layoff he’s had. And then shortly thereafter join the Aberdeen IronBirds of the New York-Penn League and start his climb up the minor leaguer ladder.” Which probably in White Sox interpretation means Kannapolis and then Winston-Salem at the end of the year...or a minor league playoff roster, then possibly AFL if he just completely tears it up. That latter possibility of pushing him that hard over two months when he has missed all of June doesn’t really make much sense.

Time for Omar Vizquel to come back and play third instead of Rondon...

Red Sox announcers crushed to finish 3-3 against Toronto and the White Sox. For Boston, fourth lead blown after 8, plus another 7 more when leading after the seventh (Liptak stat of the day when Sox blow one...so his quote today about coming back from blown saves to still win should be interesting.)

They’ll undoubtedly figure out some way to get Alonso 550 plate appearances still, lol...

Can just imagine old Hawkeroo sighing at home after the leadoff walk from Colome....assuming he hasn’t already thrown the remote control through the wall because we have all seen this way too many times before.

Red Sox have had seven losses after leading after 7 and three more with leads after 8...speaking of missing an elite closer. All the more reason to not trade Colome unless we get a really useful player for a playoff run in 2021-2023. The obvious problem is that by that time his overall stuff will have deteriorated even further from throwing so many cutters.

He also sent his least favorite reporter a rat inside a box via the mail?

Now we can start yet another “trade Abreu at a higher value!” thread at least...

Winnin’ Ugly? Six blown saves for Barnes. Back to back games does him in. Now the big question is whether Colome can pull himself together mentally now that the heart of the lineup has already hit against him.

We’re at the point with Burdi and Hamilton that we might be better off holding onto him if they actually plan on being competitive next year. Who’s on the free agent market that would be more effective?

Garcia sometimes has the idea he’s Roberto Clemente out there and not Leury Garcia when he’s playing in the outfield...

So now Benetti, Stone and Our Chuck can trot out the “our boys didn’t quit in the 9th” bromide despite playing without Moncada and Anderson...

Because...of course. White Sox gonna White Sox. Why was Garcia looking back towards the plate when he was running? More poor fundamentals.

2005-2008 Ozzie, maybe you can extend it to 2010 but 2009 was awful.

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The Red Sox announcers are still stupefied by the Rondon brain cramp. “Thank you, White Sox!” And speaking of ridiculous stats...Wright’s in line to get the win.

Renteria’s lucky Benintendi wasn’t healthy enough to go...because he could just have easily brought him into the game against a RHP. Holt was hitting on half a hamstring, ala Kirk Gibson.

Jackasses. Jay in RF. Rondon with one of the worst defensive plays of the year...trying to cut down Nunez when he wasn’t even the tie runner. Bogaerts was 8/17 against Colome coming into that at-bat...open base, still pitched to him anyway. Garcia got careless and almost messed up the flip to Yolmer.

Masahiro Tanaka was supposedly going to get at least $120-130 million from the Sox as a young/er pitcher with TOR upside. I guess with Cole, they will argue his velocity makes a long-term contract prohibitively dangerous after so much high leverage usage, then sign Wheeler for half that amount.

Collins...