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QUOTE (Jerksticks @ May 30, 2017 -> 10:12 PM) Dude. I just said I have a big heart for all people. Who the heck do you think you are telling me that I think it's "compelling stuff to put down the poor/immigrants/Muslims and anyone seeking the American Dream that's NOT white". I have absolutely no beef with you or anyone on this board Caulfield. Why on earth would you just call me a racist piece of crap? Why do that? First of all, I never said that. Why is the default defense position always the same? Why can't all of those groups I listed AND white males all enjoy success in America? Are they mutually-exclusive eventualities? Must one group (or more) fall while the others rise, or vice-versa? I keep reading all these stories laced with anti-Affirmative Action themes, it just makes me wonder when did everyone in America become so individually-oriented (I won't say selfish). As long as the policy goal isn't "the greatest good for the greatest number" (meaning all Americans, collectively), then everyone just gets put in these neat little boxes of interest groups and factions, the elderly vs. the Millennials, whites vs. non-whites, healthy vs. non-healthy, etc. I'm not even clear reading such posts that people are asking for 1) an end of Affirmative Action, because they believe it's inherently unfair, or 2) they're just upset they're no longer the recipient of any special benefits/support? What is the point of vilifying immigrants to the US when the rate at which they commit crimes is considerably lower than those born as Americans? (And this makes sense, logically, that you have to watch your P's and Q's in order not to do anything to jeopardize your citizenship/Green Card track.) Does everyone in this thread really want to round up every single family (even children, because it's unfair to separate them) in the US that has been here 5, 10, maybe even 20 years or more and send them back to Mexico? To create a police state where every single immigrant (with citizenship or not) lives in fear of a virtual police state??? I think the Gang of 8 might disagree on that count. It's just not the humane, Christian thing to do...and that's not even taking into account all the adverse economic impacts that will result. Lots of jobs that no Americans are willing to do. Tremendous crime/gang problems all pushed to the other side of the border (temporarily), with no realistic way to contain it, despite building all the ways in the world. I've never seen a single person give an account of all the many who benefited from Affirmative Action policies...and how their lives, and their families' lives were changed for the good or better? Does that have no intrinsic value, if it doesn't benefit you directly (and, in your idea, perhaps has an adverse effect)? http://money.cnn.com/interactive/technolog...diversity-data/ And if Affirmative Action has provided all these benefits to minorities, why is it not reflected at all by the employment numbers of those working in Silicon Valley at Cisco, Dell, ebay and Intel? Or representation in venture capital firms? Congress? Heads of major corporations? The main group succeeding is Asian-Americans, and they're succeeding in the face of the same "reverse discrimination" that is apparently debilitating to white Americans. What is it that's preventing all of those kids from succeeding in the American economy today, and why don't the same factors equally affect Asian-Americans (in fact, you can argue they have to work 2-4X as hard for the same rungs on the ladder as whites, yet they hardly ever complain, they just deal with the circumstances and overcome the competition.) And what would the numbers of minorities working in those above-surveyed companies WITHOUT Affirmative Action?

Frazier and Anderson sporting the same exact 673 OPS number at the end of the game...

And Happ might even turn out to be the better player. You're talking Jacoby Ellsbury/Grady Sizemore in his prime for the best that Benintendi can do...what is the closest Happ comparison? Needless to say, I think 98.9% of White Sox fans would take either one (at this point) instead of Fulmer.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ May 30, 2017 -> 08:17 PM) You're slaying it in here right now. Super on point, calm and in control. It's quite pleasurable reading and as a grown man in this world with a big ass heart for everybody, I completely agree with every point you've made I think. Rockit LOL. If you think it's compelling stuff to put down the poor/immigrants/Muslims and anyone seeking the American Dream that's NOT white, okay. He sounds exactly like Mick Mulvaney. It's going to result in a disastrous mid-term election for the GOP in 2018. But who knows, 40% of the people in America believe that illegal immigrants TODAY IN AMERICA (under the Trump regime) actually have a MUCH easier time than whites born as American citizens.

How would Biden be "a creep" when he's arguably the most popular DEM politician today? Either him, Sanders or Michelle Obama. Liz Warren MIGHT be 4th. Hillary Clinton, white privilege, lol...you got me there. Her husband, not so much.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 30, 2017 -> 09:06 PM) Ozzie was bad at the end, but I contend he's the best manager in Sox history. Yes, he beats out Al Lopez who led the Sox to the World Series in 1959. http://www.baseball-reference.com/managers/lopezal01.shtml He AVERAGED 90 wins a season over the course of 9 years. If not the for the Yankees, he would be a lot more famous. 90, 94, 94, 98, 95 were his five best. Ozzie had 99, 90 (2006), 2008 team I think ended up with 88 or 89...2010 team had a good run, but I would still take Lopez, especially because of the way that things fell apart at the very end between the Sox and Ozzie.

QUOTE (QuickJones81 @ May 30, 2017 -> 08:42 PM) I wouldn't mind seeing the Sox go with Jordon Adell in the first and JJ Matijevic in the second. If not Adell it would be great to see Bukauskas slip to the Sox. If they're not trading Quintana...it feels like they're going to need a collegiate bat, especially with Robert in the fold.

Well, Hostetler's philosophy has (supposedly) changed the drafting process...so we'll know if he or KW is ultimately calling the shots still if they take Kendall over some of the other available collegiate bats that have been discussed.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 30, 2017 -> 08:23 PM) I love how aggressive Renteria is with the pen sometimes. he understands leverage. LOL We definitely need to have those two lefties. You can't get by with just one. Purke is the next man in line again? Although I guess they'll give Holmberg a few more opportunities, despite his pedestrian stuff. All we need to do is find the left-handed version of Kahnle...but much easier said than done. Sale can finally breathe a sigh of relief, pitch the bottom of the 5th, and get another win.

How can you let Travis just waltz into 3rd? Jennings has sucked this year. BIGLY.

Might want to start looking at the scouting reports on Travis about right now...

When's the last time a "true" or least projected 2B (like Hiura) went in the Top 10-12 picks in the first round? Who the hell is Warmoth? Is Law just trying to be a contrarian with all of his notes about the White Sox? Sign him for peanuts and then allocate the rest of the money to guys at #2/3/4/5???

MLB Gameday showed a strikeout for Davidson before he even came to the plate. Very prescient. 99 pitches, 10 hits, 2 walks and 8 strikeouts. ERA all the way up to 2.81.

Avi Garcia not giving up competing with the AL Batting Crown quite yet. Sale at 95 pitches... going to be a huge struggle to gut out another inning with so many high duress pitches, but he has the bottom half of the order to deal with.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 30, 2017 -> 07:59 PM) Wtf Since nobody is going to post in the Cubs' thread, lol...

White Sox not getting cheated this inning...just hitting balls at fielders.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 30, 2017 -> 07:53 PM) Just think of getting Robert as the consolation Cue Eddie Butler shutout coming... Have to credit Maddon to sticking with Schwarber at the top of the order...assuming it eventually pans out. The White Sox never were able to show that kind of patience with their young hitters, but having won the WS last year really takes at least 50% of the pressure they would be under this year had they lost to the Indians.

Top of the line-up due up. Chris Sale at 80 pitches through 3. Let's get some runs, boys!!!

1:40 for the first three innings...yikes. Paging Rob Manfred. I guess the concessionaires are happy? What's the weather/crowd like tonight? Full lower bowl? SI might have been right about the Astros for 2017. They're about to be 21 games over .500 and it's not even 1/3rd of the way into the season. Remember when the 2006 White Sox were 26 games over .500 at the All-Star Break? It's crazy how well the Stros are playing. Now the whole predicted part about matching up with the Cubs in the WS...not sure about that one.

So you're back to Second Amendment issues, moral/religious reasons (such as abortion and the Supreme Court)...military defense/foreign policy arguments. Obviously, immigration and terrorism as well, this election cycle, not only in the US but all around the world. The funny thing is that most pundits always argue "it's the economy, stupid!" but that was not the case in 2016 or 2000 or Clinton and Gore both would (at least SHOULD) have won quite easily.

That second pitch to Tim wasn't close to a strike. But he doesn't let it affect him. Nice approach back up the middle. Renteria is a candidate for Manager of the Year to have THIS team with the 7th best RS/RA differential in all of MLB. Those top six are all "superpower" teams. Too bad we couldn't get Timmy into scoring position and knock another run off that deficit.

QUOTE (oldsox @ May 30, 2017 -> 07:37 PM) This loss is on Renteria. Well, it's hard to blame him for not wanting to try to get at least one more inning out of Q and see if he could finally settle into the game with the White Sox back into it...I'm not going to be angry about it, because TOR starters have to battle through those setbacks when they don't have their best stuff. The bullpen has really been taxed by nearly all of the Sox starters this season, especially Covey and Pelfrey. And still don't think this game is quite over....not just yet.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 30, 2017 -> 07:35 PM) Yeah god help us if those are the top talents the Sox are relying on. Outside of Hansen, those are guys that should have been complimentary pieces Totally forgot about Hansen for a second. He's perhaps the brightest bright spot, along with Kopech. But I'm remaining skeptical until he can start repeating those numbers in the Carolina League.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 30, 2017 -> 07:29 PM) Not 100% true. Dunning, Hansen, Adams, Guerrero, & Cooper have done well. And Lopez was pitching very well before his recent meltdown. But obviously some big dissapointments with the guys you mentioned. Sure, even Tyler Danish looked okay despite his early game struggles. The problem is that none of those guys (other than possibly Dunning) profile as anything more than back of the rotation guys. Dunning was projected by most scouts to be a 3/4 type of guy, at least. But unless he can really develop/refine his secondary pitches, he's going to struggle. He got away with mostly his fastball in the SALLY League, but then hit a wall with better hitters in Advanced A. Adams has never lived up to that early athletic potential and "frame" projection...in terms of increasing his velocity from 89-92 into the mid 90's. Q now with a 5.60 ERA That has been FIVE innings with 4 or more runs given up this year, and TWO IN A SINGLE GAME. Just think he buckled under the pressure of facing Sale, and you wouldn't have predicted that with how cool he's been for most of his major league career with the Sox.

You've gotta be BLEEPING ME!!!! Miss Harrelson tonight.