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Well, right now the projection is a refined, high OBP doubles hitting 20 homer guy who MIGHT end up at 1B/DH and has a fringey arm at catcher. That's fine, nevertheless, if he can consistently put up those numbers. Obviously, MUCH better if he can stick at catcher, though. And the KW philosophy of almost always drafting collegiate players continues. That's been in existence every since the McDowell/Thomas/Ventura/Fernandez drafts. Honel and Jason Stumm were the rare exceptions.

How many more days does Avi Garcia have left remaining on the White Sox roster?

Albers DFA'ed. Burdi added to the active roster.

Main point: KW would take Lewis 98 times out of 100 if he was running the draft. Maybe 99. http://m.mlb.com/cws/video/topic/8878818/v...ds-in-the-draft I'll just allow Hostetler to make my point for me, in terms of HIS philosophy approaching the draft...

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/183086774/ml...ctions-analysis Read Callis' comments about Collins and Lewis. Clearly, KW is no longer calling the shots. Hostetler basically forecast this is you were reading between the lines, talking about finding refined/professional hitters with good plate discipline...at impact positions. At first, I was pissed off, but then I considered our track record with these types of prospects (other than Trayce) and at least it's NEW direction, even if we might not always agree about taking the "best" (however that's defined) player available. White Sox coaching staff, particularly those with expertise in catching, will be on the job right away in Rookie Ball. Jim Thome will also likely become one of his mentors in a hurry. A little concerned with the comments about his athletic ability being below that of Kyle Schwarber, but we'll just have to wait and see. It's also likely that Lewis wasn't going to be able to stick in CF, more likely ending up in RF. So you have the Sox finally going with the higher floor/lower ceiling guy instead of totally swinging for the fences. Also going with the player from the much more competitive conference, as opposed to Mercer, where Georgia Southern (Beck/Joey Hamilton/Todd Greene) has typically been one of the best teams historically. Finally, let's keep in mind the Braves passed on Lewis, who practically plays in their backyard of Macon. Heck, they had a team in the Sally League in Macon for years and years and years. Hostetler worked for the Braves for quite awhile, so you can be 100% sure that he's familiar with both Lewis and Collins, since all Braves' scouts have mastery over the Southeast Region in terms of their networks/contacts/connections. At any rate, hope it all works out in the end. We desperately need help at catcher, and have failed for decades to develop our own player there....and that position has been a black hole since AJ's prime faded. Lewis may have boosted his stock more in the past year than any college prospect for the 2016 Draft. Undrafted out of a Georgia high school in 2013, he played sparingly as a freshman before nearly winning the Southern Conference Triple Crown and then starring in the Cape Cod League in 2015. He repeated as SoCon player of the year in 2016 while contending for the NCAA Division I lead in batting and home runs, making it a virtual lock that he'll become the first first-rounder ever from Mercer. With his leverage and bat speed, Lewis has easy pop to all fields. His swing is busier than most scouts would like, but his approach is generally sound and he tied for the D-I lead with 66 walks entering NCAA tournament play. Lewis is a fringy runner out of the batter's box, but he has solid speed once he gets going. Some evaluators think he has a chance to stay in center field, but most believe he's destined for right field, where he could develop into a serious home run threat with average or better tools across the board. www.mlb.com NOTICE that Lewis was one of those rare "toolsy" guys who was also leading NCAA Division 1 in walks. And yet they still passed...and one would think a lot of those walks were intentional or pitching around him, which won't happen nearly as much in professional baseball.

Greg, you do realize that Trump will win KS regardless of what you do or say?...Missouri, as always, is where it gets much more interesting from a political standpoint.

What would be hilarious would be if JR pulled a Trump and sued Rosenbloom/Trib for "scurrilous libel/slander"...since he never actually uttered those words, at least it would show he hasn't gone all Summer Redstone.

Chris Correa of the Cardinals will be available once he's released from prison...

If you add Latos, Rollins, Jackson (who has been "okay" recently at least), Avila, Morneau, Jacob Turner, etc., together, would have been MUCH wiser to spend that money on Ian Desmond/Fowler/Denard Span and Aroldis Chapman. Then we might actually have a fighting chance. One of those cases where spreading out money TOO thinly has led to diminishing returns. Latos earned his money for sure, because we would be dead and buried without his first 4-5 starts.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 9, 2016 -> 10:23 AM) Well I remember this one: May 16, 1978 - With the Sox record a dismal 9-20 and knowing that there was no way he was going to be able to re-sign him, Sox owner Bill Veeck traded slugger Bobby Bonds to the Rangers for Claudell Washington and Rusty Torres. Bonds would only play in 26 games for the Sox, with two home runs and eight RBI’s. Making matters worse was that to get Bonds the previous December, Veeck traded three players including future All Star Brian Downing to get him. Washington would become the target of fan displeasure because of his tendency to take it easy on the field while with the team. One fan made up a banner, hung over the right field wall, which expressed that sentiment “Washington slept here.” Torres’s claim to fame (and this is a great trivia question) was that he was on the field for all of the forfeited games in baseball during the 1970’s. Torres was with the Yankees when the final game in Washington was forfeited when fans rushed the field in 1971, he was in Cleveland for the nickel beer night fiasco in 1974 and was with the Sox during the “Disco Demolition” forfeit in 1979. Then you have what happened in June 2007 where they went 5-17. What I'd like to know, perhaps someone with research ability can somehow find this, is if ever there's been a team go from 13 over to one under in exactly 30 days, which is what the Sox just did - May 9 through June 8. Don't know if that's ever happened before. Mark 2001 White Sox with David Wells' memorable comments as well as bad bad, Thomas getting injured in pre-season (Achilles), Jose Canseco later on the team...did later fight back to get over .500 in June/July but coudn't get much past it. 14-29 start.

Jimmy Rollins, Jim Thome (who was actually productive based on what we paid him after the subsidy), Omar Vizquel, Tom Seaver, Griffey,Jr., Roberto and Sandy Alomar, Steve Carlton....seems like we're back in the late 80's when we routinely would bring in aging veterans on their very last legs, then again in the mid to late 90's. Morneau seems to fit right in with this scenario. Former MVP's/All-Stars, etc.. Carl Crawford must be next.

Southsider2k5 will enjoy this one from a yahoo board... "I give the White Sox management staff credit for trying to put a winner on the field every day. Truth is, they are not a big market team despite playing in Chicago. They do not get the revenue from ticket sales of a big market team nor do they get the advertising dollars from radio and TV ratings. It will also be 2020 before they can get the kind of TV deal other teams are now getting. What the White Sox really need to do is rebuild instead of retool. It is tough to buy a championship team and there is no consistency from year-to-year trying to win with other team's players. You do not always know what you are getting (Adam LaRoche for example). You can go to Cuba for talent (Jose Abreu) but don't always know what you are getting (Dayan Viciedo). In the last 10+ years, the best position players the White Sox have developed have been Tyler Flowers and Gordon Beckham. That is not good. But Sox fans will never let management rebuild, so they continue to retool and have to do so with limited funds. The White Sox were off to the best start in the AL this year, but their attendance figures were 12th out of 15 teams in the league. Again, the White Sox are not a big market team. They need to rebuild the minor league system. They cannot afford to do it any other way."

Not sure how Abreu is worth a ton at this exact moment in time... And you're building around Eaton, Rodon, Anderson, Fulmer and this year's three top draft picks???

At this point, the "boss" is the White Sox fanbase.

I'm getting so tired of arguing about Ventura at this point I'm coming around to the POV that Hahn and KW both need to go...unless KW falls on his sword and admits it was he and JR that "pushed" Hahn into going off the rebuild plan and directly into "veteran procurement" for our few remaining minor league prospects.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-leag...-025146341.html Speaking of public humiliation....not a good look for White Sox fans (being called out for booing a pitcher in his very first performance for the team, although some of it must be related to the carryover of knowing what happened against the Mariners in his previous start), for Robin Ventura OR for Rick Hahn. National media starting to really turn on Robin.

QUOTE (whitesoxjr27 @ Jun 9, 2016 -> 08:43 AM) What i got from the article is that the players suck and the front office and RV are fine. Correct me if i am wrong. Robin Ventura has continued to make the big mistake of playing the guys the general manager gave him.

You're reaching the end of the line on "potential" at this point in Lawrie's career. He started off great and has now become roughly a league average 2B (overall)...which would be fine if we were getting production from other positions than Frazier, Cabrera and Eaton. One thing's pretty clear, Sanchez and Saladino are still much more likely utility players at the big league level than legit starters. Now, perhaps if other teams continue to buy into that word potential, he could fetch a really useful piece at the trade deadline this year or next...and they could move Saladino/Sanchez back to second in order to make room for Tim Anderson. Then figure out a replacement in the offseason if Saladino/Sanchez can't hit well enough to hold down the position (ala Avisail Garcia this year).

You're reaching the end of the line on "potential" at this point in Lawrie's career. He started off great and has become roughly an average 2B...which would be fine if we were getting production from other positions than Frazier, Cabrera and Eaton. One thing's pretty clear, Sanchez and Saladino are still much more likely utility players at the big league level than legit starters. Now, perhaps if other teams continue to buy into that word potential, he could fetch a really useful piece at the trade deadline this year or next...and they could move Saladino/Sanchez back to second in order to make room for Tim Anderson. Then figure out a replacement in the offseason if Saladino/Sanchez can't hit well enough to hold down the position (ala Avisail Garcia this year).

Yes, the White Sox lost 12 1/2 games in the standings to the Indians. But that took place because the Indians were in the midst of an unreal 33-11 stretch. And Ozzie's Sox weren't playing terribly, but they did slow down (30-28 the last two months)...nothing like losing 20/26. We'd still be in first place by four games if we were just "holding serve" and 2 games over .500 during this ongoing recent stretch, leaving us at 37-22 and firmly in control of the division. Flavum would approve of that pace.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CH...le-scores.shtml June 15th-July 15th, 2010. The closest we can come up with to the opposite of 2016. 2007 and 2013 had some similar stretches. Before that, you'd have to go back to the mid to late 90's or mid to late 80's.

Hahn deserves the guillotine more than Navarro/Avila/Ventura on this one. A bit of a desperation move. And it's going to be one that will be harder to survive because at least Shark magically disappeared after one year and is now "out of sight, out of mind" on the West Coast. Can't imagine if he was putting up his SF numbers for the Cubs about right now after totally wetting the bed for us.

Well, tonight we're moving onto KW in the "looking like a fool" category. Hahn, When He Gone?'s choice of James Shields and now twice-traded Gio, KW's own cross to bear. Crazy you have two Gonzalezes starting against each other, with 3.93 and 3.94 ERA's. Something tells me they won't be exactly 1/100th of a point apart after tonight.

QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Jun 8, 2016 -> 04:20 PM) I think I understand what you mean. I think the easiest answer is just that getting behind the wheel of a car while drunk can have severe ramifications on everyone around you, and its one of the main causes of death in the country. Whereas if someone is drinking and puts themselves in a risky situation like hooking up with someone they dont know they still arent putting anyone else at risk. Unless it was unprotected sex and you could prove one of the partners knew they had AIDS/HIV, herpes, etc. Pretty rare, granted, but not an impossible scenario, either.

Typically, there's always the idea of the stronger (90-95% of the time it's a man) party being the culprit...if you had two drunk people and there was a large disparity in size and strength between them. Tawny Kitaen vs. Chuck Finley comes to mind, although that wasn't rape but domestic assault/DV, which is related but of the same family of crimes.