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http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-white-so...get-it-together This is reassuring. KW: We'll get it together. So basically, the injuries to Petricka and Putnam were enough to blow up the entire season...that's about as lame as Hawk saying the lack of offdays early burned out Albers and Robertson.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Aug 22, 2016 -> 10:49 PM) Girl I went to college with on FB is volunteer bartending at some Sox event tonight. She said she has no clue of any of the people/players or even how baseball works. Pretty much all us guys are jealous and then she replies to one of the guys "Thanks haha do you know Ken Williams? Cus he is currently at my bar." That might be the ONLY way to get them into "lockstep" before this off-season. Force them to go out and get liquored up every night together until they come up with a coherent AND cohesive plan which they both agree with...since they are supposedly entering the dreaded YEAR 3, and yet there are no signs anything will change, other than the manager, possibly.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Aug 22, 2016 -> 04:33 PM) Dodgers trying to "give away" Puig but nobody wants him. He's hitting over .400 in AAA and was over .300 in his last 30 MLB games Source? Did he pass through waivers without a claim? He has $14 million left on his contract the next two years...and even one arbitration year, and no team will take that on?

http://www.southsidesox.com/2016/8/22/1258...office-problems And who's responsible for the current front office dysfunction and all the recent leaks (Heyman/Kaplan) and comments from JR about them being in "lockstep" going into the offseason...interestingly, fans over at SSS blame Reinsdorf 46%, KW 39% and Hahn only 4%, which doesn't quite make any sense. Ventura was in between KW and Hahn at 11% "blame." Goes on from about the 10-12 minute mark until 46-47 minutes in...really agree with almost everything Margalus and Nelson had to say.

1/4th of the season left to go and no game thread? Is the US-Serbia game really that compelling?

Altuve, Betts and Donaldson would disagree...Machado and Arenado would have their backers, as well.

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 04:55 AM) More like 60% Jerry, assuming Comcast had an equal share in 2005. And why do you insist that team performance has anything to do with tv contract? The Astros got 75 million when they were losing 100 games regularly. The Padres got 65 million when they are the padres. And of course the Angels get 125 million despite their s***ty ratings(which the sox are below in 2015, but the angels have historically drawn poorly on tv). The only difference is the Astros had the best farm system in baseball as thry entered that new deal. They weren't expected to make the playoffs until 2016, they actually made it one year early. The Angels seemed like they would be a contender every season and had the best young player in the history of baseball...

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 06:58 PM) Every bad team needs a James Shields. Well, he's a lot cheaper than Shields or Nolasco at least. Whether he's worth Alex Meyer too, we'll just have to wait and see.

Hector Santiago was 6-0 with a 1.76 era last month with the Angels. Now with the Twins, he's literally throwing batting practice to every opponent. Could never get around that inconsistency.

Somehow have a feeling calling out Carlos Sanchez every game still won't result in Altuve-esque numbers. Worked tonight, though. At least they're playing Coats instead of Shuck. Of course, the danger is he looks pretty good down the stretch and they go into next year with Garcia/Coats.

Sure would be nice to see them realize Carlos Sanchez isn't a starting caliber player...oh, well, better shot at the #10 pick at least. Abreu still about 90 ops points below his career average...but at least providing some small glimmer of hope for 2017 with this run in the second half...as long as they limit the damage he can do to the offensive side.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 01:33 PM) Lawrie is actually a couple months younger than Saladino. It is probably a given that at some point he will land on the DL every year, but he has some power and plays so hard. I hope they keep him around for a while So you want a player who is unlikely to be much more than league average and will more than likely miss 30+ games next year? Sounds like a recipe for more mediocrity. And whatever you pay him is likely to be an overpay compared to the similar overall production you could have gotten out of Semien or Saladino at the same position. Of course, we have little choice but to keep trading young position players since JR has been unwilling to pull the trigger on signing a free agent pitcher to a large contract. You can keeping saying we MIGHT have signed Tanaka or MIGHT have signed Shark to an extension, but it doesn't count until it actually happens. Instead, we wind up with half measures like Shields who are then used as the excuse for not adding that big hitter in the middle of the order because they're weighing down payroll...or the excuse that Upton and Gordon have disappointed this year, therefore the only solution is getting lucky dumpster diving for Morneau, who will sign elsewhere in the offseason OR go into the tank when the White Sox overpay a 35+ veteran.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 02:11 PM) Sure thing. But if Peavy hadn't ripped his back muscle off his spine and TCQ actually recovered from punching a locker I have no doubt there would have been more playoff appearances. If Adam Dunn wasn't a pile of horsemeat, there would have been some more playoffs. I'm not saying the FO is perfect but I think people need to cut them some slack when they point their finger clammoring like an old drunk, "16 years, 2 playoffs!" That's insane. The team looked darn good every year on paper from 2001-2013. Many devastating injuries to key personnel. It's been 3 years since they decided to flip cores & go young, cut them some slack. Almost competed during the process too. Peavy was already high-risk because of his delivery. Quentin, Beckham....Konerko, very tightly wound players psychologically. KW always said you have to exercise due diligence. That slipped over the last decade. We traded Sergio Santos and acquired Nestor Molina, who KW wasn't even completely familiar with at the time of the announcement. That's not the only time they have been asleep at the wheel. Shields this year is another prime example.

KC was 12 games under .500 in July and pretty much seemed dead in the water. Have an outside chance at the WC with 27 games remaining in the Central, especially facing MN and the Sox. Face Miami and Boston on the road next week and then the Yankees at home...not to mention four at home vs. the A's. Of course, they've been terrible on the road, but have won 9/10 and six in a row with two more against the Twins. Game last night ended at 2:13 a.m.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 07:40 AM) In fairness, Sale may be more valuable than trading him. He is worth a"lot" and few teams have a "lot". In addition, from comments from Boston media after the deadline, the White Sox were asking an unreasonable return for him. So the White Sox need to trade from strength, which is starting pitching, so offseason they have to find a package for either Q or Rodon to add young talented players. That won't accomplish anything to market Rodon as if he's a #1 or 2 starter when it's still just potential...not to mention no acquiring team will be able to extend him. Selling low on him just creates another hole. As it is, we only have three starting pitchers we can count on for next year. We're stuck with Shields. You need to make a trade where you get at least 2 and hopefully three young impact players or it doesn't make sense to trade just for the sake of trading.

Are one of the Giambis available? Jose Canseco was actually pretty decent in 2001...at least he was entertaining. Wrath of Khan 2017 Version.

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 03:17 AM) And the landscape has changed considerably since then. The sox were bought for $20 million in 1981. They MAKE $50 million in local cable rights PER YEAR now. They get another $46 million in national tv rights money. AND the recent MLB Advanced Media /Disney deal of a BILLION dollars for just a THIRD of MLBam's BamTech nets the sox a cool 33 million. For a 1/30th stake in a third of a media company spun off from another profitable media company. The money is there. Sure, but teams like the Mariners are earning $70 million more before the season even begins. Minimum, the White Sox would have to be in the $150 million range and probably closer to $160-165 million if they choose to spend themselves into contention (as a strategy). Thry'd have to repeat the 14-15 offseason (but actually be right on each player they targeted) in a market with 1/3rd the talent and twice as much competition. The money has always been there, accompanied by the fear of making a mistake on a big contract of over $100 million. Like it or not, that's the going rate for a middle of the order hitter in his prime.

http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=2...ap&sid=t494 Talk about a AAA debut you'd probably like to forget...

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 03:00 AM) When was this interview? It's horribly outdated. The Sox have a 20-25% stake in CSN Chicago, and Jerry's combine dholdings make him a majority voice in the network. And he put in charge Jim Corno, who he hired to run sportsvision(and later the dolan owned sportschannel and fsn-chicago). Oh, and when the cubs open their own network(with or with out Comcast as a partner), jerry has right of first refusal on the sale of the cubs' stake in CSN-Chicago. He pretty much owns his own network. Essentially it would be 50% Sox/Bulls, 25% Blackhawks and 25% CSN/NBC Universal unless they can sell off that 20% share in an advantageous way. Right now, the prospects for the Sox and Bulls in 2019 don't look so great...hard to say with the Blackhawks, but they will also theoretically be in the rebuilding stage three seasons from now.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 12:37 AM) Cmon Caulfield. Proof is in the number of rings. Ozzie has a WS ring. We fans probably will never celebrate another WS title in our lifetimes. It's that difficult to complete the deal when you are a small market team. You can make a poll. Guillen will get 5-10% of the vote. Al Lopez will win. You keep forgetting that there was only one playoff team from the AL each year, and it was invariably the Yankees at that time. He (Lopez) was much more consistent...almost all of his teams were good to near great. Guillen had 2007, 2009 and 2011 on his record, and the ignominious way in which he parted way with JR, one of his biggest cheerleaders. Ask Lip to rate them 1-5. He's also the only manager who spent the majority of his career managing the Sox in the HoF. Lip might even go with LaRussa or Tanner being better based on their accomplishments after leaving Chicago. http://www.hardballtimes.com/10-things-i-d...t-chuck-tanner/

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 03:57 PM) Here's a good one. Our politicians lie way too much and I'm getting sick of it. Why is everybody so hooked on "Republican" or "Democrat" pride? Folks, all these bastards on both sides do is lie, lie, lie. How are the Obama apologists going to explain this one?? I know, they'll blame the messenger or simply say, "Who cares? We have a better option than that moron Trump." I think everybody should care and impeach every one of these Presidents ASAP. There has to be some accountability for lying. I'm ready for free college education and healthcare for all. We're getting nothing out of our economic lives right now in America unless we're born into wealth. America is only for the 1 percenters right now and I'm sick of it. Republican, Democrat, who the f*** cares?? They are all corrupt. Just fix it!!! http://nypost.com/2016/08/18/state-departm...soners-release/ Why don't you run for office, school board, city council, state rep, etc.? It's our responsibility as citizens to be part of the solution, right?

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/cws/history/managers.jsp Al Lopez and Fielder Jones say hello. That said, Guillen is definitely Top 3-4.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 09:10 PM) Hey, many Sox fans on this board wanted a professional, quiet manager to run the club instead of the effective, yet outspoken Ozzie. People in some respects are getting what they asked for. Not nearly as effective in 2007, 2009 or 2011 especially...that said, at least every other year the team was entertaining at least. Maybe if he hadn't been drunk half the time, we really would have seen what he could do were he 100% serious like his first 2-3 years as a manager. As time went by, it became more about him and his family and less about the team.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 09:06 PM) 8 years? What are you talking about? Most of those years had badass rosters that looked competitve on paper. "Hey Paulie, screw your prime and your last good years, we're going to get some prospects. Piss off you old goateed-sometimes fool." GMAB Would a salesman who had tons of potential prospects, always talked the talk and yet invariably failed to close out those deals or meet his quotas (bare minimum, we're not talking outstanding or superior performance) continue to have his contract renewed unless he was the son or son in law of the owner?

Red Sox and Rangers would definitely be lesser matches in the offseason...if anything, Boston will try to get something useful back for Shaw/Ramirez and fit Moncada and Encarnacion into that juggernaut while figuring out how to rehab Sandoval into something useful. LAD....but that's only if Kershaw is sidelined well into 2017.