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Wonder how many of the announced 20,011 were actually there...must have been a lot of those tickets sold in late April and early May.

On the plus side, a theoretical Phillies' win over the Cards pulls the Sox into the tenth and last protected pick by percentage points.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:04 PM) There is a difference between a typo and not getting names right. Especially when you find it inexcusable for others to get names wrong. The fact that I'm not getting paid to get the names right...are the mods now paying you a stipend that we don't know about?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 08:01 PM) It is Junior Guerra. For someone who still give KW crap for Berry/Barry you would think you would be better with names. He is also on the DL Okay Lawrence Halomes Barojas.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 07:58 PM) Preller is awesome. He is paying Shields more than Hahn. At least they have a clear direction now that the meddling owner has realized retooling on the fly doesn't work too well in the face ofbthe LAD and SFG financial juggernauts...

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 07:52 PM) You just mentioned 11injuries It is a huge number on a team that is banking on leading the league in healh, and have zero depth. And the unforgettable Matt Davidson... And you honestly think they'll blame injuries, their own lack of any quality depth, the Shields debacle and extend Ventura at the end of the year with those three excuses?

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 07:45 PM) Plus, Preller went up against Rick Hahn mano a mano, and Hahn was obliterated in the trade. A complete mismatch, like Hahn is against most GMs. And I would be shocked if the farm is rated any higher than #25 in December. Except for Erik Johnson, yeah. Hahn went into desperation mode because of the early hot start. Danks would probably be putting up the same numbers and quietly exiting if they went out 10-23, or even retired before the end of the season. If you add Javy Guerra, Ian Desmond and a decent veteran reliever and part time catcher to this roster, it's a very competitive team. Why they have stuck with Matt Albers this long after running off Danks, Latos and Rollins is completely beyond me.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 07:41 PM) Maybe. KW at least won once. You would think the law of averages would catch up to the Sox at some point. Something has to work out. But they do need to be all in if they are going for it. The hoping 3 or 4 bargains work out, nobody gets hurt, and everyone else has a big year hope needs to end, and something more realistic needs to take its placeThe injuries hurt them and I know some teams are missing better players but the Sox have no depth so their injuries result in guys who should hardly ever play getting a lot of play. That makes zero sense when Schneider has led MLB training staffs in recent years in terms of avoiding DL stints. If injuries to guys like Coats, Kevan Smith, Tilson, Avi Garcia, Lawrie, Petricka and Putnam are lethal...you just have zero quality depth. Gonzalez and Rodon, same thing. If anything, the Austin Jackson injury hurt the most because that forced a lousy bat AND defender into the lineup. Avila simply exposed Navarro. Every contending team in the AL Central has gone through worse. Even the Tigers lost JD Martinez for almost three months. And if the team actually had anything to play for, you wouldn't see so many guys missing time imo.

It's prett pathetic that your greatest hope and aspiration as a Sox fan is that guys like Dunn, Danks, LaRoche and Shields would simply retire or at least be kidnapped by peaceful politically-correct rebel groups...

Greg would trade for LaRussa the manager and Stewart the pitching coach... Hopefully this is franchise rock bottom with Fulmer also getting ripped to shreds in AAA.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 07:29 PM) It really might be the most inept front office in baseball right now. Nothing they have done during this season has made sense. Stewart/LaRussa...we haven't stumbled to that level (yet) with Miller trade and signing Greinke too late in his career. Preller is now extremely well-supported in SD for his course correction.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 09:37 AM) That was a trade that had to be made according to you. Now you can't even let it go. Change your name to Trump. Filibuster? And yeah, it had to be made because the White Sox essentially gave up on him...that was pretty obvious. Just like they did with Micah Johnson after hyping him heavily for two plus years.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 19, 2016 -> 09:23 AM) So has Jose Abreu. Most objective observers consider him a 1B in the same way Frank Thomas was one...it's one of the main reasons he's been at negative overall value for most of the season, and why his trade value is down dramatically. He has to be an 850-875 ops hitter to justify that below average defensive. And Semien has almost doubled Abreu in homers from a "defense first" position, although the overall offensive output from SS has improved dramatically over the last two years due to the injection of young talent at that position around the majors.

A league average SS or better than average 2b is worth a lot more than a short reliever unless that reliever is close to elite (Miller, Herrera, Betances, etc.)

The Cubs didn't have a hand in that one...

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Aug 18, 2016 -> 09:52 PM) Hell yea. Screw the service time argument, it's not relevant. The Sox plan to contend next season so let's see if Mr. Fireballs can anchor a critical spot in the pen. Looking like the Samardzija for Burdi trade might be a winner. Sure, if he can give you 3+ war per season like Semien...how it can already be looking like a winner when he hasn't thrown a single major league pitch is pretty farfetched.

http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2016/08/18/dave-s...&yptr=yahoo There seems to be a more incompetent (sorry, Greg) front office than ours...AZ, with Dave Stewart and Tony LaRussa. Keith Law apparently is going to war with them, and it's happened before with him and TLR. http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/tony-l...inst-keith-law/

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0818-story.html And Ranaudo gets to make another start...

MLB Daily Dish already had their "GM Ratings" with Hahn 29th or whatever and had Ventura as one of the six obvious coaches on the hot seat. Every single article about managers from now until the day he is notified of his fate will mention Robin's name. Quite a few are speculating on Scioscia as well.

Wait, the Score hired a Brazilian broadcaster? Halomes? I presume it's still Lawrence Holmes...NBA insight extraordinaire. Yet another blown save for the White Sox bullpen. Broken record. Glad I didn't change my GoT reference below...still appropriate.

Let's just put it this way. What have we seen out of Fulmer this year in the majors that should make us believe he'll be a future cog in the rotation? Dick Allen says Burdi will end up in the mid to low 90s at the end of games as a starter, potentially...ignoring that guys such as Sale and Rodon routinely throw 96-98 mph late into games when they really need to. But is Fulmer even capable of sustaining 92-93 mph for more than 3-4 innings with that high effort delivery? Whenever I watched him, I was hoping he would be the DL the next day and there would be some minor physical reason as the explanation for how he went the baddest NCAA pitcher to Tyler Danish in 12 months.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 18, 2016 -> 10:52 AM) What would the White Sox record be with the "proper" manager? There may be no need for a rebuild. Hard to say. Since we're flailing away under .500 yet again, with a future HoF...we need to poach Mike Scioscia away from the Angels or extend Ventura's contract another 2-3 years. After all, he's the one who mentored Maddon and is dearly in need of a change of scenery...and the White Sox are dearly in need of a real general, not one who fills out a Myers Briggs survey and impresses KW. Really, it makes perfect financial sense. That, some duct tape and baling wire buys the Sox another offseason before the fans completely turn on the organization. Instead of the next Bonifacio or Duke, it's much easier to sell the stabilizing influence of Scioscia. Plus those two managers in the same town!

Swisher and Javy weren't past their prime vets or close to future Hall of Famers, either...

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Aug 18, 2016 -> 10:09 AM) These guys aren't 12 year old kids. Do you really think a manager has that much influence over the way a guy whose been playing baseball for a minimum of 15 up to 30+ years? Come on. The difference between the best managers in the game and the worst is maybe a few wins a year. And besides, how the hell do you know what goes on in the locker room? For all you know Ventura could be preaching the kinds of things you're saying day in and day out. Are you honestly advocating benching a guy like Adam Eaton because he doesn't run out one ground ball? So Hahn and KW will/should fall on their own swords to preserve Ventura's managerial position? Great. At least it would be a direction of some sort.

That's great advice from a future Hall of Famer... Twenty years from now, and certainly no later than twenty-five, he will invariably, no, inevitably, join the ranks of Leyland, LaRussa, Cox and Torre.