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Seriously, does anyone in the White Sox dugout realize that JD Martinez is slumping? Also, JD Martinez basically went to the Tigers over the White Sox because of the relationship with the Avila family....even though he was more likely to be in the minors to start off if you looked at roster construction in March. White Sox really were interested but lost once again to DET (see Miggy Cabrera, Torii Hunter, etc.) 2nd place again to them.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 7, 2015 -> 02:23 PM) well...tough to sweep anybody, especially a team many think is the best in the league That and the White Sox just lack the nature of stepping on the neck of their opponent when they've got an opportunity to sweep. Giving up that run right off the bat in the 1st inning, of course, didn't help matters....along with the offense flailing away against an average or below-average starter. GREAT JOB, Eaton. SIGH. Good throw and he's out, but high and wide. They're going to keep forcing the issue on Eaton until his arm shows any degree of accuracy or consistency. Really, an intentional walk against someone who's in a terrible slump in JD Martinez? (20 strikeouts in his last 30 at-bats....worse than Adam Dunn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) UH-OH.

Last time the White Sox picked the "local" kid, it was Kris Honel. That one didn't turn out so well...injuries.

White Sox: 10-14, 5 1/2 games back in the AL Central Freak-Out Factor: 9, or one for every 0-fer from Adam Eaton this season This club scored two runs or fewer in half of its first 22 games. All three of their supposed lynchpins in the rotation -- Chris Sale, Jeff Samardzija and Jose Quintana -- have turned in at least one certifiable, Grade-A clunker. You and I have gotten on base only slightly less frequently than leadoff man Eaton. And April wasn't even over before manager Robin Ventura received the first public vote of confidence from general manager Rick Hahn, so that news-cycle requirement has already been addressed. The White Sox, basically, have been a mess, and the struggles of the stars only make the holes at catcher, second base, third base and the back-end of the rotation more apparent. At some point, perhaps soon, Carlos Rodon is bound to supplant either John Danks or Hector Noesi in that rotation, but the 22-year-old rookie lefty is probably the only real desperation lever Ventura has to pull here, and obviously Rodon can't spark the lineup. As is the case with the Indians, I'll raise the panic meter here slightly because of the division depth. The other factor that must be considered here is the Trade Deadline and Samardzija's looming free agency, which might impact Hahn's patience level if the Sox are merely hovering midseason and not actually making an earnest rise up the standings. It's a lot to ask of a club to go from 89 losses one year to October the next, and, with their slow start, the Sox have doubled down on the difficulty. http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/12275...95269-658620023

Where did the offense go this game? Heard they had bases loaded, no outs, Ramirez hit into a DP and then Beckham was retired. The first inning had the usual sloppiness with a wild pitch and then Quintana couldn't field the throw from Flowers when Cabrera should have been out at home.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 7, 2015 -> 07:57 AM) What is an EB extension? I'm guessing Emilio Bonifacio.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ May 7, 2015 -> 03:08 AM) Dave Cameron said in his chat that the Astros have an interest in Shark. I think unless the Sox are getting Correa, which is never going to happen, I think that Houston is a bad trade partner for the Sox. Maybe not. Preston Tucker, Colin Moran and Domingo Santana would be interesting. Appel and Correa aren't going anywhere.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ May 6, 2015 -> 10:19 PM) I can't stop watching the video for Yonathan Sierra Estiwal. He's 6'3 205lbs, he's 16 so he's probably not done growing, if he grew another two inches I wouldn't be surprised. Plus his swing is fantastic. My favorite phases in the scouting report by MLB were... 'improving hit tool', 'ability to drive the ball to the opposite field'. I'm jealous that the Cubs are attached to him. He should be good. That's the first time I've seen Jonathan spelled "Yonathan." Cool name.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ May 6, 2015 -> 09:29 PM) Exactly how long a list is that really? And if you consider how many castoffs were fixed for more than a year, the list gets really short. You're probably right, but this is an organization that has long preferred (as long as KW is in charge) utility level talent and declining veterans to young players with less than exemplary credentials. And that's been true even in lost years. Loiaza, Marte, Thornton, Politte, Cotts (2005, when it was clear he wasn't going to be a starter), Jose Contreras, Phil Humber, Gavin Floyd and Danks until their injuries (especially 2008-2010/11), Noesi last year, Nate Jones, Petricka, Hector Santiago (we can debate that one....Cooper loved him originally and then soured), David Putnam, Sergio Santos, Bobby Jenks, Jose Quintana....

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 6, 2015 -> 10:00 PM) Maybe you should run all game next time. Robertson let up 2 hits but Avi hit Alexei with the cutoff while a runner was going to 3rd and Alexei was able to throw out the guy rounding 1st base. Then a grounder to Micah to end the game It was McCann, the catcher. And the .350ish hitting Iglesias would have come up with runners on 1st and 3rd, only one out...probably would have scored the first run of the season (off Robertson) unless they got him to hit into a double play ball to the middle of the diamond. Big break finally went our way again.

QUOTE (flavum @ May 6, 2015 -> 08:38 PM) Sox will win this game. Bonus points for enduring optimism!

QUOTE (fathom @ May 6, 2015 -> 07:54 PM) Still somehow in this game. Hopefully Sale rediscovers his ace-ness It's mystifying, Chris, Lester, Kershaw and Bumgarner have all struggled out of the gate this year. (Ricky Romero was released, haha).

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ May 6, 2015 -> 07:52 PM) Chris Sale's changeup has long rated as one of the best pitches in all of baseball His slider's still a much better wipe-out pitch. His change-up has always been a bit inconsistent IMO. 93 pitches already through 5 innings. Bullpen game. Are we actually nails? We shall definitely find out (part of the answer) tonight.

QUOTE (reiks12 @ May 6, 2015 -> 07:50 PM) warm up the bullpen, WOW Petricka.... How did Kinsler not score there on a double play? Weird. But it's almost impossible to score unless you break right away, in which case it would have been 1st and 2nd and probably one out (unless they could catch the runner at 1st, unlikely).

Well, this is depressing. EATON, WHY IN THE HELL ARE YOU TRYING TO THROW RAJAI DAVIS OUT AT HOME????? Hit the cutoff man, stop the runner from getting to 3rd. IDIOTIC. This keeps happening over and over and over again.

What the hell is wrong with Sale? Overthrowing? Dead arm because of the injury rehab throwing him off track? This is ending up like Adam Dunn's appendicitis thing. The first game out, he was throwing 97-98 right off the bat in the first few innings. Btw, thanks Dick Allen for inspiring the Rangers to sweep the Astros!!!

We should have a poll (which the moderators) would never approve, but it would be an entertaining discussion. Which of the following coaching combinations would lead the White Sox to the best record (if Robin Ventura was replaced by)?: 1) Dick Allen (you can name your own bench coach) 2) Fathom and Balta (just because I like his politics the most of the mods, lol) 3) A combination of two of ANY two of the remaining mods 4) Jake and Brian (the movie/tv team) 5) Kyyle and Northside 6) the rest of the field of non-mods (I'll name LDF and Greg775 for my co-coaches and we can party at Applebee's after games) 7) flavum and Greg Hibbard, because there'd be lots of optimism and theoretical record projections mixed in with cliches for post-game press conferences I vote 2.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 6, 2015 -> 05:11 PM) Whit Sox players don't play well, clearly Ventura's fault. Lack of talent , and injuries be damned. Any other manager has a team that sucks, so and so didn't play well. Why isn't Joe Mauer's drop off on Gardy? Or Choo's horribleness your pals fault? If they were White Sox you know who you would be blaming. What significant injuries have the White Sox had this season, compared to other division rivals (Justin Verlander, Nathan, Alex Rios/Hochevar, Swisher and Gomes, Ventura for PED's, etc.)? Last time I checked, the Rangers and Twins were both predicted to finish in last place in their respective divisions by EVERYONE. So, to summarize, you would be happy to give up your highly-compensated (with a 14 year track record) sales job to the equivalent of Robin Ventura, right? When the White Sox stage a miraculous comeback and win the division, are you then going to argue the opposite of your current line, that Robin Ventura had nothing to do with it at all and shouldn't be extended beyond 2016 as a reward "because the players did it 100% all on their own and it wouldn't have mattered who was managing them"?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 6, 2015 -> 03:50 PM) FOX Sports: MLB ‏@MLBONFOX 3m3 minutes ago Manny being Manny?! Pedro Martinez says Manny Ramirez used to spike team drinks w/Viagra --->http://foxs.pt/1Qo0fy1 Maybe the White Sox need to try that? At least if they were getting a little nookie on the side, it might help them to relax a little bit and stop pressing so much.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 6, 2015 -> 04:42 PM) Yet you seemingly have no idea the White Sox were rebuilding and pin losses on him. He took over a 79 win team that lost Buehrle, and they win 85, but the collapse. That is all on Robin......except Paulie, wrist surgery, Youk, back gives out, Sale, out of gas. If you are going to ignore losses for Gardy because of talent, to be fair, you would have to do it for Robin. And everyone would be willing to do that, if he had won something in 2012. Because of that collapse, and the piss poor fundamentals and lack of execution and just a plethora of mental errors from mid-September 2012 until today, what conclusion/s are to be drawn? Because we can't blame this team's poor defense and poor baserunning on Dayan Viciedo and Alejandro DeAza any longer. What's the ONE common factor during that time period? You're going to balance Ron Gardenhire's 6 AL Central Division championships in 9 years with Robin Ventura's 5 1/2 months in 2012? REALLY? You give Ron Gardenhire Byron Buxton and Miguel Sano playing up to their ability and 100% healthy, you'll have an 85+ wins Twins' team again....if not for the fact that they went after Ricky Nolasco and Erwin Santana (another board favorite last off-season). http://www.wadenapj.com/sports/3708353-do-...-problem-licked So basically, you want Robin Ventura (a manager hired with ZERO experience or credentials) to be given the same benefit of the doubt...which just doesn't make any sense. Let's say Dick Allen was Regional Salesman of the Year for 6 out of 9 years. His company then brings in someone they think COULD be better, but is totally inexperienced and never even done sales and he consequently produces results that are pedestrian at best, and which leave numerous questions in mind of any future improvement. He hasn't proven anything as of yet....how long is the company going to stay in a state of uncertainty before going back to the person with the record of performance on the back of their (sales) baseball card? I'm starting to believe you are actually Chris Rongey in disguise, lol. You have more excuses than cod liver has pills, as my now 86 year old mother would say.

Yeah, I'm not seeing many posters argue that Ozzie Guillen should still be around as White Sox manager. Joey Cora, as bench coach, etc. If the only thing that mattered was that World Series title, then we should recreate as much as possible the same conditions that brought that championship about according to this thread.

In the KCMO SD, they locked a very old teacher in the closet and set the chemistry lab on fire with Bunsen burners.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 6, 2015 -> 03:27 PM) The context of the conversation was about the waiver wire. You aren't finding a top flight anything on waivers. JD Martinez disagrees. Ian McHugh, too. And a long line of White Sox pitching castoffs "fixed" by Don Cooper.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 6, 2015 -> 01:41 PM) Thompson didn't even get a September call up in a lost 2014 season. Has that much changed in a month of baseball? I doubt it. Honestly I think if an OF got hurt, you'd probably see Sanchez still get a call up, with Shuck/Bonifacio getting most of the PT in the OF. There is also a non-zero chance that Leury Garcia would get the call up as a guy who has more flexibility for the roster. Or Saladino, depending on health and recent performance level.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 6, 2015 -> 01:30 PM) Think of it this way. If an OF goes down to injury, who is the next call up? That is why the Sox would be watching for OF depth. SP? No. They are looking to make room for Rodon as it is. That will push someone else into relief, and they just cleared a mediocre reliever off of the roster. Next SP up would be Scott Carroll. Odds are you won't find a better reliever on waivers then what Guerra gave you, and they would add him back if needed (assuming he isn't claimed). Skill IF? No. The next guy up is Sanchez, and it isn't even close. Catching? Sure. The odds of finding one are really, really low, especially when the Marlins couldn't get anything at all for Salty, even when being willing to eat his entire contract. OF is at the top of their depth list FOR SURE. Now the trade market would be a different thing. There I am sure they would love a 3B and C. I think he meant a top-flight 3b or ss....but the odds of finding someone more than a Danny Valencia or Didi Gregorious level player are about 1 in 100.