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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 6, 2015 -> 12:46 PM) And that can be easily solved by firing the manager, and hiring a guy whose teams lost 99,96,96,92 games from 2011-2014 becoming the first Twins manager to be fired since the same season Hawk fired Tony LaRussa. Everyone in baseball other than some at SoxTalk knew the Twins were going into a long-term rebuilding process....which was exacerbated by having a turf team unprepared for outdoor style of play AND Mauer, Morneau, Santana and Liriano falling off the map production-wise. Let's add the reign of terror by Bill Smith. See below. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/820267-...erry-ryan-built

QUOTE (fathom @ May 4, 2015 -> 01:01 PM) The Brewers aren't trying to be competitive this year. That's no shock to their fan base, as this was confirmed once they traded their #1 pitcher in the offseason. Then why fire the manager after they were finally playing better (5-5 over last ten, also won the weekend series convincingly)? Plus, they just gave him an extension through 2016.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 6, 2015 -> 09:23 AM) Chicago metro population was estimated at 9.5 million after last census. Take the 1/3 of it that would apply to Sox, and you have about 3.2 million. Detroit metro is 4.3 million, not counting Canada at all. Minneapolis metro 3.8 million Cleveland metro 3.5 million KC 2.35 metro million That still doesnt address media rights, sponsorship opportunities with more corporate hq's located in Chicago....disposable income, etc. http://www.forbes.com/mlb-valuations/list/ White Sox stilll arent far behind Detroit despite Tigers winning last four division championships, best pure hitter in baseball, best pitcher in Verlander before 2013-14, etc. Of course, the Tigers also lost nearly $21 million last year while the Sox were quite profitable.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 6, 2015 -> 09:12 AM) Because during the season it is physically impossible. What are you going to do, bring up your entire AAA team? That's at the heart of the Carlos Sanchez/Micah debate right now. The concept of "firing" Micah for his performance so far when the same thing can never happen to John Danks, for example.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 6, 2015 -> 09:04 AM) This really isn't true. One you divide up the Chicago market with Cubs fans, a place like Detroit's market all by itself is probably bigger than what the Sox have to pull from. Sure we play in Chicago, but we are the clear minority player in Chicago. We dwarf the Twins, Indians and Royals as far as media rights fees. Pretty comparable to DET. Which was a city absolutely devastated in 2008, moreso than any Midwestern and/or Rust Belt city fwiw.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 6, 2015 -> 09:06 AM) If you think about it, how many players did we "fire" this fall with all of the new signings we made? A large chunk of the roster was "fired", by being replaced. In a round about way, the White Sox "fired" about half their roster in 2014. I meant in the middle or beginning of a season....

QUOTE (jeffro2525 @ May 6, 2015 -> 09:05 AM) Mental mistakes is right. You don't have to be a great fielder to mentally know where you're going with the baseball if it's hit to you... Perfect example was Avi in that 4-3 win over Cleveland a few weeks ago...directly cost the Sox a run because he had no idea where he was going with the baseball and instead of just getting it in he double pumped and the runner scored from 1st on a base hit. It was disgusting. There have been a few times where Eaton has done the same thing but it hasn't cost the Sox so it went unnoticed. Getting caught flat footed against aggressive opponents has been a common theme in the Ventura era. See Colorado game last year when a runner scored from 1b on a single to the outfield.

Then why dont teams "fire" all their players instead of changing coaches or managers? Why did the 2012 team play so differently but for just one year? What does Soto have to do with Ventura rather than Hahn? Nobody thought he could be a capable defender. What were the expected or projected records for the Cubs and White Sox? The Cubs are losing to the team many consider one of the top three in baseball despite the loss of Wainright...whereas Minnesota was in the basement for every singgle prognosticator. The Cubs are still over .500, in second place and playing an exciting/interesting brand of baseball. The White Sox, even when they do win, it's often quite ugly with just a few exceptions. Btw, Edwin Jackson's ERA was 0.00 coming into yesterday's game. Nails!

QUOTE (shysocks @ May 6, 2015 -> 07:42 AM) That total is 29 for the Sox, for the record. The four "extras" are Rodon, Carroll, Sale, and Petricka if I'm not mistaken. Does Webb count when he was added as 26th man for one game?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 6, 2015 -> 08:34 AM) So that is what we learned from Greg Walker. Obviously the point of this is to say the team isnt talented enough....therefore the coaching staff shouldnt be blamed for Corky Miller, Andy Gonzalez and Leury Garcia. Lol. Not extreme examples there. The problem is "good" or decent hitters struggling like Eaton, Ramirez, LaRoche, Cabrera (no power, low walks)....or supposedly "talented" hitters like Beckham and Viciedo. It seems you are arguing its more on the scouting and GM, correct? In other words, if you were forced to fire Hahn, Steverson or Ventura today...who would you choose to protect and why? I know you will say nobody should be responsible or accountable....that the team will improve magically over time if we are only patient and content to be non-contenders for yet one more season. Good poll topic, but its undoubtedly already being discussed to death.

The question is how many years without a playoff appearance when we are supposed to be the largest market team in the division with all the built-in advantages is acceptable? 10? 15? Should we just tip our caps to Illitch for spending more and having a better GM, to the Twins and to the Royals now for building much more solid foundations for sustainable success? What does Buddy Bell have to do to get fired, for example? What is he actually superior or even good at? The irony is with all the advanced statistics in the world, the subjective matter of judging coaches and front office personnel seems to be getting more and more difficult. We can quantify and assess players in a multitude of ways, why not coaches, too?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 5, 2015 -> 09:03 PM) 5-4 throw it to 2B. 5-2, just get the out. Anything goes wrong there and the tying run is at the plate. Outs are what's important. Whether the run to cut the lead to 2 is at first or second doesn't matter. Wow, you said something even I can agree with. Keep it up. Atta boy!

16,351 tonight. For those in attendance, what was the ratio of Detroit vs. White Sox fans?

We were also pretty fortunate that Greene has turned into hot garbage after starting the year so well....20 ER in his last 8 IP or something like that. The first couple of innings were really shaky, we ended up with 3 official errors and made a number of other mental mistakes which could/would/should cost you the ballgame against a David Price when the margin of error is much thinner. Micah really needs to tighten things up defensively, or they need to start replacing him late in games (with a lead) with Beckham. Finally, solid start from Samardjiza after struggling early in the game. In some of his bad starts, he really fought his slider command and got behind in counts, which allowed the opposition to key in on his FB. Good bounceback win for him after the weird BALT start in front of 0 fans.

We were also pretty unfortunate that Greene has turned into hot garbage after starting the year so well....20 ER in his last 8 IP or something like that. The first couple of innings were really shaky, we ended up with 3 official errors and made a number of other mental mistakes which could/would/should cost you the ballgame against a David Price when the margin of error is much thinner. Micah really needs to tighten things up defensively, or they need to start replacing him late in games (with a lead) with Beckham. Finally, solid start from Samardjiza after struggling early in the game. In some of his bad starts, he really fought his slider command and got behind in counts, which allowed the opposition to key in on his FB. Good bounceback win for him after the weird BALT start in front of 0 fans.

Yeah, 29-49 now. We have the rotation well-aligned with Sale and Q and they're going with Simon/Lobstein, so NOT taking 2/3 would be pretty much unacceptable at this point.

Questionable change-up there to Gose. Eaton playing that ball very conservatively...seems a bit tentative out there tonight. Afraid to make more mistakes?

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 5, 2015 -> 07:14 PM) That's just selfish or stupid or both to swing at the first pitch after he couldn't find the strike zone. And it wasn't even a f***ing strike! Yeah, it worked...but the approach wasn't correct at all. Wonder if anyone in the dugout will mention that? Hopefully Steverson will point out the logic of allowing an imploding pitcher to dig his own grave instead of helping him out.

That's more like it. If they somehow manage to f--- up this game, there's not going to be anything left to say.

Almost got another DP but the bat shattered and slowed the ball down enough....bat ended up in 3 pieces. We'll take it.

5 BB, 6 GIDP for Abreu now on the season.

Even when the White Sox run, they're creating outs accidentally. Melky just missed a hanger big-time, was late on it.

QUOTE (Blackout Friday @ May 5, 2015 -> 06:59 PM) That's kind of the opposite of subliminal. It has become subliminal because it's repeated so often that people start to block it out...yet the underlying message is still there, lol. If the runner wasn't going, that probably would have been a single up the middle....runners 1st and 3rd, nobody out with the heart of the line-up coming up. LOL...

Eaton, .192, no homers, no RBI's, just one steal...very hard to accomplish for a leadoff hitter with almost 80 AB's.

Johnson just one double and 4 walks....just not on base nearly enough to make an impact. Chris Getz-like. Calling him out must have helped. Now how will he be eliminated from the basepaths?