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QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 11:03 PM) I will start a fight with a Tigers fan and throw one over the railing during a flyball to left center while Dirks or Kburn tries to make the catch. Is your last name Ligue or Ligue, Jr.? Are you in a drunken stupor, lol?

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 10:47 PM) 535. Man I'm just to frustrated right now. And plus I listened to the 9th on the radio...just to hear Farmer say there is, "no professionalism" in the game now while he b****ed about Valverde for an inning (for the record I can't stand his antics, but don't spend an entire inning of a broadcast b****ing about it) They were ripping Butler and Cain (especially) on the Royals for this, well, mostly Farmio. Omogrosso versus Cabrera Septimo (instead of Veal) versus Fielder GAME, SET, MATCH Ventura just doesn't have a clue, both of those decisions were worse than YOUK bunting or Liriano pitching in the 8th yesterday in a 3-2 game, albeit not MUCH worse.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 09:41 PM) Hey caulfield, how many games finished for Myers now? I've given up counting simply because it will only make the offseason even more depressing if we're stuck with Myers due to Robin's managerial ineptitude. I wanted to believe there was a conspiracy to return Myers to starting and replace Gavin's $9.5 million salary, but there's 100 better way to spend it, IMO.

QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 08:55 PM) The cool thing about next year is that we very well may have some money to spend, particularly if you don't sign AJ. There are NO free agent catchers that are any good. It's either Flowers or a trade. The rest of the money has to go to replacing Peavy, 3B and the bullpen (possibly, if they trade Crain or Thornton). Or we can tear things up by dealing Ramirez, Rios or Dunn. The last two won't get us much talent back...Ramirez might, but we don't have a replacement for him that's close to ready. Sanchez doesn't profile as a major league SS. Better off at 2B or 3B.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 08:52 PM) No matter what, this has been a positive year. In no way am I giving up on the year, even if the Sox lose tomorrow. Far too many strange things have happened with the Tigers losing to inferior opponents this year, and they also have to face the red hot A's next week. Plain and simple, the Tigers are a HORRIBLE match-up for the Sox this year. Their main runs have been when they fattened up on the Indians at midseason, the Twins and the Royals (until they were swept in KC). And winning 9/10 against the White Sox after starting out 3-4. That has allowed them to surge from 6 games under to 8 over, but it hasn't been from beating some of the really good teams the White Sox have handled like the Yankees, Angels or Rangers.

QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 08:49 PM) Caulfield/Cerb/fathom: Axis of pessimism Don't forget Greg/Royals. Caesar, lol.

QUOTE (Baron @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 08:43 PM) Thats really pathetic. Unless you have a crystal ball somewhere on you then you dont have the slightest clue of whats going to happen. This reminds me of Caesar's stupid comment about Detroit winning for sure against Cleveland. Look what happened there. Some things are pretty predictable. Detroit getting swept in LA after losing the first two games to Santana and Wilson and with Greinke going Sunday. The Sox falling apart in this series after the YOUK bunt, with Scherzer and Verlander looming. Now, Chris Sale might be all that stands between DET and the playoffs. We really really really need to win tomorrrow to get back some momentum, rather than HOPING that the Tigers will fall back for the 3rd time this season with division lead or a share of it. In fact, I'm starting to agree with Marty. Despite all the positives of this season, if we lose AJ, YOUK and Peavy, we might as well hire a new GM and figure out a different strategy to beat the Twins and now the Tigers, because the KW/RV one certainly isn't working.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 08:42 PM) After 2008, where we haven't seen any significant improvement from Danks and Floyd. There's hope with Quintana, Santiago, Veal, Jones and Reed. But those last three could be out of baseball in 2-3 years, as well, You never can tell with relievers. After NOT throwing offspeed stuff for six years, suddenly Thornton has discovered he needs a 2nd pitch.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 08:41 PM) Tigers tie it tomorrow, then 19 left: Tigers--Cle, Oak, Min, KC, Min, KC Sox--Min, KC, LAA, Cle, TB, Cle We're done. Unless we sweep the Indians and Twins, lol.

TRYING BRIAN FREAKIN' OMOGROSSO AGAINST THE BEST HITTER IN BASEBALL AGAIN IS DUMBER THAN THE BUNT ATTEMPT. I thought Ventura had the capacity to learn on the job, but it's becoming dubious. It now seems 75% of the team's improvement was just NOT having Ozzie around, but he hasn't been a good in-game manager the entire second half. In fact, he's getting measurably worse by the week.

Gee, there's a surprise. Haven't we seen this show with Leyson Septimo and A-Gone in Boston? Where the hell was VEAL OR THORNTON???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 08:24 PM) Flavum, supposed to rain tomorrow? We need a postponed Game 162 against the Tigers with the White Sox being down by one going into the last game...Sale versus Verlander/Scherzer in Chicago. Win Game 163 vs. Detroit and then storm through the playoffs.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 08:18 PM) You just realized this We've let at least four games get away against both the Royals and Tigers. The Friday and Sunday games were absolutely excruciating. In the end, that's what will be remembered the most if we don't end up winning the division and fade down the stretch while DET plays 10 games over from here on out. Of course, following their normal trend line, they take the lead or fall back as soon as they're in first or tied...often getting swept. Or they're swept before they play us and then magically turn it on again.

Clearly, DET has MORE talent, just with Jackson, Cabrera, Fielder, Verlander and Scherzer alone. We have Sale, Rios is putting up a season comparable or better than Jackson, but Dunn/Konerko haven't come close to besting Cabrera/Fielder. Peavy has been very good, but he's not pitching like their two aces. The main advantage we have is AJ's huge offensive output over Avila's slumping year AND the fact that Victor Martinez, one of the most clutch hitters in baseball, has been out all year. Dunn has had some huge clutch homers, but he's not the kind of hitter that can consistently get singles and doubles in RBI/RISP situations.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 08:13 PM) A decent consistent offense and we are talking about what day we are clinching. That and of course not completely getting owned by 50 % of your division. We are 3 homers away from YOUK...having the only offense with 6 guys hitting 20+ homers. I think we are the only one still with 5 (Dunn, Konerko, Rios, AJ, Viciedo). One shudders to think what will happen without AJ, Youk and Viciedo if his confidence is shaken by getting benched down the stretch run.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 12, 2012 -> 08:11 PM) i like the new girl better She's younger and fresher looking, I suppose, but Kustok was/is much better. And Kustok is eminently more knowledgeable, which is supposed to count for something.

Well, this situation was 100% predictable, as soon as the first Youkilis bunt attempt was fouled last night. You have to play to win. Now the White Sox are on the defensive again and playing tight. Ventura should have referenced our numbers with runners in scoring position and just played for the huge inning, but it's all crying over spilled milk now. And facing perhaps the best pitcher in the majors the last 2 months.

Exactly NOT the inning we wanted, so far. Scherzer will be able to go 7 now, in all likelihood.

The main difference in this game is the fact that 1) the Tigers have the best hitter in the AL who's super clutch, and their hitting with RISP and especially with 2 outs. Whereas all season long, especially in the 2nd half of the season, we've given up a disproportionate number of runs with two outs. I wouldn't be surprised if we led the AL in that category since the All-Star break. It has been uncanny. Hasn't mattered if it was a starter or reliever.

Santiago seems a lot more confident in ANY situation, except for closing. Whether as a starter or middle reliever.

Apparently we're back to Liriano starting against the Twins... Even if we are tied, you'd almost rather go with Santiago at this point against Minnesota, rather than Liriano. Except Francisco has the advantge of knowing all the weaknesses of his former teammates. But they know all of his trends and tendencies as well, and this would be the 2nd time he's faced them.

There might not be a BETTER 1-2-3 in the majors for the playoffs than Scherzer, Verlander and Fister. Everyone should be afraid to face them, should they actually make it.

Well, this is a familiar scenario against the Tigers this year. Crooked numbers put up vs. our pitchers when they've been cruising along. At least Scherzer is already over 100 pitches at this point...but it's not like their bullpen is garbage.

YAY!!! Should have let him swing away LAST night. 6/54 on the season for YOUK against Detroit now.

Alejandro at least attempting to bunt on the 1st pitch. At least Johnson and DeAza extended their at-bats to up the pitch count.