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Pushing Santiago a bit too hard when he hasn't been stretched out...

Tigers' announcers think Santiago is more effective in the low 90's instead of overthrowing the fastball as the closer. Has to pace himself more going 2-3 innings, like he did last year.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:22 PM) BTW, Konerko has one extra base hit in July (a weak double down the first base line) At least he had an RBI on that hit.

Dotel never pitched like that for us in the 8th or 9th... In the 7th, he was great, but push him back into critical situations and he would often fall apart.

SIGH.

Beckham is using Adam Dunn's bat now.

Pretty pathetic 3-1 swing against a pitcher you know's going to bring the heat there....have to be turning and burning, Danks just hasn't had enough at bats. Amazing that Flowers got a hit there...against a fastball dominant pitcher. Okay Gordon. Let's see if you can actually get into a fastball.

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:38 PM) Hudson was prolly the best 2nd basemen defensively this the past decade (2000-2010), no one would say that of Beckham, even tho he is good but not Hudson good at 2nd. Hudson has really slipped in his 30's, both range-wise and baserunning. Once again, speed players like him, Figgins and Pierre don't age well.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:38 PM) Since this thread is active, figured I'd get the most responses here: if you could amnesty one contract with the Sox right now, who would it be? 1) Danks 2) Dunn

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:36 PM) Fister was a fluke for them last year. He is not as good as those numbers indicate during that time after he was acquired. If anything he is high 3 to low 4 era pitcher at best Look at his last 2-3 starts with the Tigers...he has been solid again.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:34 PM) They've been winning at a .750 clip for the last 3 weeks. Think that'll last? Not .750, but they're better than last year, and look at what they did to the rest of the division in August and September. This time, they do have a really tough schedule coming up through at least the end of Aug. Frankly, I thought the Angels could split with them.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:32 PM) Toronto having no problem hitting Lester without Bautista 9 runs in 2 innings..............Sox should of smoked that guy. We did score 6 runs against him....how is that bad?

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:25 PM) This. Their pitching staff sucks beside JV and defense is bad as well. There's a reason why the season is 162 games. Fister is very good. Check out his record with DET after he joined them last year. They only lost, as a team, 1 or 2 of his starts. Scherzer is leading the AL in K/9. He was consistently hitting 97-98 in the 7th inning against the Angels this past week. Porcello is 3-0 against the Sox with an ERA of nearly 1. He's 23, so he's done all that before the age Verlander started pitching for DET after Old Dominion. Turner is one of their best pitching prospects and Drew Smyly was very very underrated for them, their version of Jose Quintana.

I just hope we're not paying Myers essentially $6.5 million to be a set-up guy for 2 months. The Astros better be paying that buyout money.

QUOTE (Caesar @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:22 PM) Detroit is just better than us. They played way below their expectations and now they are playing like everyone expected. As for us, maybe we played abouve our heads and we are seeing the true 2012 Sox. You can make an argument that if we had a healthy Danks, it'd be closer. However, they've been without Victor Martinez, Smyly, Fister (their 2 starter, arguably), Albuquerque, Austin Jackson...health is not an excuse for the White Sox.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:18 PM) This is a great post. Unfortunately, when the Tigers are playing like they are right now, they might be the toughest team in baseball to beat. It happens, and you have to hope the Sox can recover against the Twins. We should have a pretty good crowd tmrw night if the heat doesn't kill off the crowd, or rain. If we did manage to take out Liriano, that would give them a needed shot of confidence in the arm. Ultimately, this isn't like those years when we lost to the Twins and always muttered to ourselves that we had the better talent...you can't make that argument with this Tigers team, especially when Konerko's just a shadow of his former self...and Dunn's in danger of falling back below .200. Not only that, but our bench has been exposed this week. That Escobar mistake was a huge one in the 9th the other night.

QUOTE (Caesar @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:14 PM) Of course it is. That should be your goal every year. Sometimes it doesn't work out that way. Adding a SP will do nothing for this team I don't think because they can't hit. They're still in the top half of the AL in runs scored. It's simply the fact that we're ice cold now and DET is playing like the best team in baseball. We ran over the Cleveland Indians when they were in a similar position. We were hot and they were cold. Playing 16 out of 19 on the road is suicide. Thursday's game didn't help. But it's not over yet by any stretch of the imagination.

QUOTE (Caesar @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:12 PM) Now ask yourself the quetion that fathom asked Marty. I don't think a SP will make a difference. This team cannot hit, and it hasn't been able to hit post asb for as long as I can remember. They survived in 2008, even without Quentin.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:08 PM) Question for you....do you think even with a solid starting pitcher acquisition that this team can contend with the Tigers the rest of the year? And they already have Smyly, who was an early favorite for AL Rookie Pitcher of the Year. They will certainly fix 2B, and get rid of Raburn/Santiago (as a starter).

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 01:08 PM) I think the clock started ticking on KW after the Boesch homer. Why? Better yet, don't bother to respond. Carry on with your anti-KW rants, if it actually makes you feel better. No matter what, you (and everybody else here) have no CLUE whether the person who would replace him would do better. How many years will you give a new GM before you turn on him? 2 years? 3 years? 5 years?

Farmer said the team looks tired. Of course, that will happen when you give back the lead every time the offense scores. Well, we've been on the other side of this, when we had our own 14-2 run. But do we really face Liriano tmrw? Just goes from bad to worse. I wonder how many times in MLB history the two teams fighting for first had six consecutive games (in the standings) go to one team in the rivalry?

Batting practice continues. Cabrera's homer was around 490.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 12:53 PM) How do you know Beckham has no trade value? Well, if you were a GM of an opposing team, who would you trade your 2B for to replace him with Beckham? Yeah, I know, Joe Borchard had almost no trade value and we got Matt Thornton for him. But it's not like we are going to get Weeks or Ackley. Maybe Jermile Weeks. Betancourt. Robert Andino.

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 12:52 PM) Didn't we sweep the Rangers? For a while there, this team looked like they could contend with anyone. Of course, we said the same thing in 2003, 2004, 2006, 2010 and now this year.

QUOTE (Caesar @ Jul 22, 2012 -> 12:50 PM) Be my guest. What's the point of trading someone who has negligible trade value? Do you want to start Tyler Kuhn or Escobar there? Bring back Lillibridge and start him at 2B?