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QUOTE (Lillian @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 03:44 AM) I agree with everyone about Viciedo's potential. I stated it in my original post, and reiterated it in a a subsequent post. My point is very simple. As good as he will likely become, he is not that good yet. That is all that I'm arguing. He is simply not ready, at 23, to be a starting left fielder, on a contending team that is OBP challeged, like the Sox. That OBP gap has been fixed by Youkilis and DeAza, to an extent. And Rios playing up to his actual ability level. True, Alexei, Viciedo and AJ won't ever be great in that area, and Beckham's just so-so, but it's not a huge need right now. We're only a few runs behind the Yankees for 4th in the AL. When Dayan gets hot, he can carry a line-up for 2-3 weeks. Conor Jackson or Johnson (maybe) could barely carry the Charlotte line-up.

LOL at O-Dog at .199 for the season. His White Sox BA coming into today was .171, about 40 points lower than the average that got him waived by the Padres. He did at least win that one game for us, though. But Fathom counted 3 defensive losses, so still not a net positive...I guess you can say he held down the fort before reinforcements arrived. Yankees adding an insurance run. 5-3. Greg's idol Wise at 2B as the pinch-runner, had a two run homer as well the other day. Chris Stewart also doing mucho damage in the series. Would be 5 losses in a row for CLE. 1-2 against Astros, just like us. Going on a huge road trip to face the Orioles, who suddenly have the best bullpen in the American League to got with a very solid offense and capable starting pitching. AL East standings have swung 9 1/2 games in the Yankees' favor the last month. AA's defense sucks in TOR. Kind of a key element of putting together a winning ballclub. That and keeping your pitchers healthy.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 03:43 AM) We are not in a position to be helping the Yankees out unless we're in a mood to white flag it. Now that they've lost both Pettitte and Captain cheeseburger for a while, they're going to suddenly be catchable both in the East and in the WC. Sabathia out two weeks...maybe no later than right after the All-Star break.

QUOTE (thomas_35 @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 03:42 AM) but really, what would we want from the Yankees? last year everyone was calling for Montero in any trade with the Yanks, and he seems to be a year or two away still... what else do they have to offer us in a trade? Quintana for Cano and Betances? Ha.

Baustista with his 25th homer, Encarnacion with an even more amazing 22. Cubs are getting clubbed to death early. So much for the arrival of Rizzo.

Pettitte out for a minimum of six weeks. Fractured left ankle, will wear a boot, no surgery. Changes the trade market dramatically.

Meanwhile, ever so quietly, Greg's Royals are looming only 5 games out of first still and beating the Rays again. I know most people won't take them seriously until they're at least .500, however.

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 03:26 AM) $5 million, option for another year. Is it really fair to lower (his agent would use the word "cut") his salary after this season?

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 03:24 AM) huh? We're not trading anybody now, not when we're competing for the division title. We'll be buyers if anything. I know that, but it's pretty incredible we could trade all three of those guys to other teams and perhaps not eat ANY salary and NOT want to do it...coming into season, that possibility wasn't even conceivable.

What contract would you offer to AJ for 2013?

Youkilis up to a .708 OPS. When's the last time we had a 3B at over .700? Crede. Seems like more than 4-5 years ago.

How many would ditch Rios TODAY if we could get rid of his entire contract? Man. Interesting decisions for KW this next month. There's just no way they could trade Peavy, Rios or Dunn. Not with Youkilis now on board. And there's not a RF replacement in sight, unless they brought back CQ, haha.

Amazingly, we're only 8 runs scored behind the Yankees this year. Doesn't really seem possible. Garcia helping out his former club. 7 consecutive outs, stranded runners at 2nd and 3rd when he came in originally. Bottom of the 7th. Indians' announcers getting demoralized a bit.

Flowers still out OPSing Alexei with the .176 BA through 51 AB's (9 hits).

What the hell are we going to do with the catching position next year? Can't believe our rebuild is going to involve bringing back AJ, but it's either that, a trade, or Doumit/Ianetta.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 03:10 AM) Does the Tribe have any pieces left they can deal without hurting the major league team? Maybe Chisenhall, if they decide they can take the risk of him not blowing up into a stud like Kipnis. They could offer Chisenhall, Jeanmar Gomez and LaPorta? They have the veteran Hannahan. There's not going to be much interest in Damon, Kotchmann or Duncan. Maybe SD will trade Headley and CQ? Don't know their system so well...they definitely were hurt by dealing 2 of their 3 best young pitching prospects for Ubaldo last July.

Gray was with us, right? Then I think he went to the Mariners? Another victim of the numbers game, like Stults or Quintana in the Yankees' organization.

117 homers for NY. 4-3 on Cano homer. 61 homers for the season for CLE. Need Carlos Quentin badly...more than the Tigers even.

QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 03:01 AM) So what's Fukodome doing these days? Rehab assignment. Danks at .412. Rios at .300 and 832 OPS. Alexei with more a bit respectable 575 OPS. Leadoff A-Rod double. Heart of the Yankees' order coming up. Cano only a .164 hitter with RISP this year. Hawk would be surprised by that stat.

White Sox still 5th in AL runs scored, despite their recent struggles. Except for the Rangers and Red Sox, within hailing distance of the Yankees and Blue Jays for 3rd and 4th. Guess we can't fire Da ManTO just yet.

I think Greg believes he's been banned now...?

LOL. We don't have any choice in how much we're going to pay Rios in 2013 and 2014. We do with Peavy. But there's no way it is going to be the $17-18 million that picking up his option would require us to pay him.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 02:45 AM) Span scores on a sac fly. 9-1. 9-2.

Decent throw there by Danks with all of his momentum going towards the line. Garcia escapes without any more damage being done. 3-2 Indians going into the bottom of the 5th.

Damn you Kipnis. 3-2 Indians, thought they were going to get out of it after a runner was thrown out at the plate, but 2 consecutive two out singles off Rapada.