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They had the guy from Baseball Prospectus, Kevin Goldstein on 670 around noon. Said that basically none of the White Sox rookies were "impact" guys, except for Reed. Made the comment that if the Cubs brought up their Iowa roster, they would have 13 rookies but that wouldn't make them good. He had actually predicted Sox for 2nd and around 83-87 wins. Expressed surprise about Quintana and Nathan Jones. The question was raised....how long would it take for Quintana to be considered as more than a fringe prospect or back of the rotation/long man...and the reply was that command and control guys, even left handed, who throw 88-91 are a dime a dozen. Then one of the radio guys asked....well, when do we start saying he's actually maybe better than that, project him as a Danks/Buehrle/Glavine type? And the response was...how many young pitchers with similar stuff are compared to those HOF type pitchers and how many actually come close to delivering those results? Beckham also said that Manto/Ventura had them do a "ghost infield" drill and that it was "cool." No balls hit, caught or thrown. Just simulated...as if the ball was being hit and throw, turning a DP, etc. Diving and getting up and throwing. Said that Viciedo was the only one who didn't get it. That McEwing was stronger than Canseco with the way he was reacting so quickly to the ball being put into play and that they had to keep yelling at him he was using his imagination so poorly, lol.

What contract do you offer? 1 year, $7.5-8 million? 2 years, $14-15 million? Long time to go before the end of the season, but it doesn't seem likely Flowers can hit over .200 at the major league level. He has HUGE pop in his bat, but a big swing and just not enough contact.

You can make strong arguments for Peavy, Rios and AJ.

Okay. HOpe you didn't get your name from John or Joe Carter. Will try Savages today, looks like a "good" Stone movie and better than most of his recent claptrap. Moonrise Kingdom is the other possibility. I'm going to have to vote no on the new Woody Allen, although Midnight in Paris was excellent. Allen's doing all of his movies with European settings recently.

Yep, and Marty34 unconditionally doesn't like KW. Other than that, all shades of grey (not to be confused with the novel).

1B-Konerko 2B-Craig Grebeck or Sugar Ray SS-Guillen or Uribe 3B-Ventura C-Fisk or AJ LF-Jose Canseco or Ron LeFlore CF-Lance Johnson or Brian Anderson RF-Jermaine Dye or CQ DH-Albert Belle or Dunn P Buehrle P McDowell P Radinsky P Contreras P Jim Parque P Jenks (well, maybe not) Hermie, Hard Art Kusyner, Don Wakamatsu, Greg775 Note: Does going to Hooter's with Gene Lamont count?

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 6, 2012 -> 12:52 AM) He can hit a little, you just have to take the good with the bad. He's a .220 hitter who won't walk much but will hit you 15-20 home runs. If you can handle that at 2B, then he's perfect. Which is actually a lot like Beckham, unless he can ever learn to consistently drive fastballs or lay off them out of the zone.

It's very apparent Ozzie can't deal as well with 1) players who are exactly like him, publicity hounds or perceived as selfish or 2) players who are the exact opposite. In the first group, you have the likes of Swisher, C-Lee, Maggs, O-Cab, Beckham, Brian Anderson...but he mostly hates or hated players who sulked or got down on themselves too much and pouted. I think that's why he and Beckham always had a difficult relationship. He finally came to an understanding with Konerko because Paulie's basic argument is that he was "just" a two-tool player, hitting and hitting for power...and that the reason he took his offensive struggles so hard was because that was his livelihood, nobody was paying him to play defense or run. Ozzie never cared as much about his offensive game because he was paid more for his fielding and complementary skills, like bunting and base running. Then you have the second group, the Quentins, Pierres, Dyes, Alexei Ramirezes and Brent Morels. Sometimes, he worked well with this group, Jon Garland being a prime example. In some ways, Morel is so quiet and unassuming....he drove Ozzie crazy because he seemed to play with little feeling or emotion. It seems they wanted him to come more out of his shell and it was a constant task to get him not to be what he perceived the Sox wanted him to be but to come into his own and develop an identity he was comfortable with on and off the field.

Speaking of Garland, does anyone know how his comeback is going, if at all? I saw where the Indians signed him in the spring, then he didn't take a physical. Know that he had surgery last year....or a season ending injury with the Dodgers. Would be a no-risk pickup for Charlotte, if he wants to pitch again, and needed insurance for another injury.

Yeah, it's just THE WATCH.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 07:38 PM) If other teams value Mitchell as an above average prospect, he's easily our #1 trade chip. And question is, who's our #2? (There's just no way we can trade Nathan Jones with Crain's future uncertain). If you were an opposing GM, surely you wouldn't want to take a risk on Trayce Thompson unless he was the 3rd or 4th player involved. Castro's on the DL now. Molina's stock is way down, Saladino has struggled and could just as easily end up a utility guy or Morel as a starting infielder. Morel would be someone that another team might really be interested in if he was the final piece, as a speculative acquisition. Beck, Barnum and Hawkins aren't going anywhere. Soptic is going to be drawing raves, but he's a reliever and way down in A ball.

Soptic will be in our bullpen before the end of the year...haha. Why not, the way this season's going? Who needs the veterans? Well, might be singing a different tune in August/September.

Damn, Tomlin picked a good time to pitch a great game. Hafner's back, too. Still have that huge weakness with Damon in LF, and Hannahan's not going to give you what Chisenhall was delivering from 3B offensively. Twins had the Tigers down 3-2 and then Detroit blew them away late. 2-2 split at DET was a great result for us, though.

2000 team surely.... That team, top to bottom, could rake. Perry, Durham, Maggs, C-Lee, Konerko, Thomas, Valentin. Singleton was probably the weakest hitter that year, Fordyce at catcher, but we added Charles Johnson in trade, who was a monster that season with the O's. That's probably the most impactful in-season move made for a position player b4 Youkilis.

Neighborhood Watch with Stiller, Vaughn and Hill looks like it won't be that good...we'll see. Didn't they change the plot around after the T. Martin case, or was it simply the release date? Armaggedon and Deep Impact, two movies that get confused as well because of their respective release dates.

Hard not to see Buehrle on the mound and wish that we were somehow able to have him around still. Maybe...at some point...the Marlins will decide they have to dump that contract when their attendance falls next season or the year after.

Jared Mitchell cratering....0/3, 3 K's, .248 Hawkins 2/4, 2B, 2 RBI

The best 2B he'd ever seen in the minors, according to Carney Lansford.

I don't think we exactly "won" the Javy trade. Javy for 3 years (inconsistent at best) It will look a BIT better if Flowers does something, and Lillibridge was part of the Youk trade, but it certainly wasn't a steal by any means. And it led directly to the BA in CF disaster in 2006.

Youkilis fouled off something like 8 pitches in a row. His at-bat was nearly 8 minutes long against Adams. DeAza's at-bat was a little short of 5 minutes, including the time down on the ground for the foul off the right knee. All told, 13 minutes, no outs, two great AB's.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 06:07 AM) (A) Hope none of the fans die (especially me) (B) Hope the Sox win! I'm not sure if this is a good reference...the first thought I had was the father/firefighter at the Ballpark in Arlington that Hamilton threw the souvenir ball to. But I'm sure you didn't mean it that way.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Jul 4, 2012 -> 05:31 PM) So this guy got the bonus slot for the 106th pick. Notable, but nothing exciting. Considering Chris Beck was drafted about 40 spots ahead of that and many are calling him one of our Top 5-7 prospects already, I'm not sure it can be discounted SO easily. If nothing else, it's nice to be back in the game in the Dominican, if not a major player as of yet. Paddy was also involved with the $250,000 deal for Luis Martinez, the pitcher from Venezuela. And Molina, obviously, although the jury's far from out on that one from both sides. Small steps.

White Sox Agree To Sign Dominican Shortstop Johan Cruz Posted Jul. 4, 2012 5:57 pm by Ben Badler Filed under: International, News The White Sox have agreed to terms with Johan Cruz, a shortstop from the Dominican Republic. Cruz, 16, is 6-foot-1, 175 pounds and has stood out in the field with good hands, footwork and arm strength. He's a righthanded hitter from Puerto Plata who trained with Victor Baez. Baseball America subscribers can read a longer scouting report on Cruz.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 12:05 AM) Clearly you're in the right thread. In all fairness, it's "films thread." Not defined as going to the theatre, IMAX, internet, cable, free/network tv. Otherwise, we'd have a specific thread for "theatre movie experiences," wouldn't we? And I do think most of us are pretty good about mentioning whether a 3D movie is worth the upcharge, vs. 2-D. Joe didn't tell anyone to go to the Dollar Cinemas, or I guess they're $2-3 or "super savers" now. Sometimes in China, in Shanghai, you can pay $15-20 for a non 3D movie, and nobody bats an eye. It's all based on how important you view going to a movie versus the convenience of downloading and watching on the internet with a smaller screen and diminished audio effects.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 01:25 AM) You don't get it. Ozzie's act is new and fresh. He keeps the clubhouse loose and fire off his players so they can go out and perform 100%. If they don't, it's because they're too serious and not listening to Ozzie. After all, he has a ring, so who are they gonna listen to? Him or some no name like Jack McKeon? OZZIE IS GREAT! I will laugh at some point in August or September when the White Sox pass the Marlins in the attendance race. Sincerely doubt he has had anything but a negative effect overall on their crowds this season, particularly after the Castro Fiasco.