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Trading Jackson leaves us with Sale as our fourth starter and no rotation until Peavy comes back, if/when he does. Pitching is obviously the most valuable commodity still in baseball, if we trade Jackson/Floyd/Danks we have to get younger/affordable/high potential impact pitching back, particularly due to the dearth of talent in our own system. Unless we bring back Garcia or sign someone like J. Washburn or Jeremy Bonderman for insurance.

I'm in the camp that we have to replace that RH reliever somehow...beyond even Putz. I have no faith in our minor league system, and Sergio Santos is still a bit of a wild card. I'd love to believe he can post the same numbers (overall) as 2010 but I'm not entirely buying into it quite yet. Of course, if we're committed to carrying a $120-130 million budget the next 3 years, great, bring back Konerko. But I would still prefer only commitment of a 2 year contract with a 3rd year club option, and there are teams out there that might be willing to give 3-4 guaranteed years coming off 2010. It's great right now to think we HAVE to have Paulie back, but it might not be so great a year or two down the line when KW and JR are bringing up budgets again and lower fan support and having to pare back the roster like we almost did in 2010 before catching fire. Of all the contracts over the last decade, Konerko's ranks up there with having had its moments where it seemed a ball and chain around the organization's neck. Other than Konerko, the only other ones that come to mind immediately are Contreras, MacDougal, Linebrink and now, apparently, Teahen and Pierre to a lesser extent. Peavy, I suppose...that has to be the greatest concern going forward. If you knew he was going to be healthy or tradeable at some point, I would take on Konerko's 3 years, but between Peavy and Rios, it's quite a risk to have another player at those numbers.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 09:15 AM) I like Borbon because he should be available - he's being squeezed out of Texas' OF and they have prospects with much higher ceilings already on his tail. His ceiling is probably Pierre with better pop, but that's valuable for 5 years of control. I don't think he's like massively valuable, just a nice fit. Putting him in LF with Pierre in another uniform and us not having to pay anything (who knows if this is possible, just me guessing) would give us the money to sign a reliever. So I've put that forth a couple times. The above scenario I proposed would be pretty much impossible, because the Rangers would probably offer just as much as we would, and why would Lee stiff them and come here? I'm not saying we'd ever get Lee, just that it's kind of crazy to examine the possibilities that exist when you have a payroll like that. It's kind of ---- weird. But I like it. The thing that really sucks is if Mitchell had stayed healthy and continued progressing in 2010 and KW didn't get desperate with Pierre and Teahen, we might actually be able to talk about a name like Cliff Lee realistically. Then again, when we had Contreras/Buehrle/Javy/Garland/Garcia in 2006 our rotation was even more expensive.

QUOTE (Rooftop Shots @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 09:03 AM) Laughed when I saw this, but at the same time, on the serious side, you brought up a great point! You wonder if that is crossing his mind to some extent? Not sure how old he is, but if you keep waiting in life to live out your passions, you have to go "ALL IN" before your time and opportunities run out. Not sure how his health is, but at his age, you wonder how much more waiting he can deal with. Regardless how much he spends, he and his family will still live comfortably, so I agree, why not totally jump in for 2 more years? If we make it...Great! If not, at least he can look back and have no "What If's!!!" Jerry wants another W.S. It makes me wonder that if he realized that the only way it will have the best chance to come is to unload the bank? esprcially with Minny and Det breathing on our necks! if that's the case...........I will be reading Soxtalk like crazy for updates when the winter meetings start. If we're "ALL IN" then what does next week bring in? It's not baseball season yet, but this has the makings for a possible best ever enjoyable hot stove season. Or a very boring one. It could be simply Konerko/Lee/Pena OR sticking Viciedo/Teahen out there... Looking for one or two "undervalued" bullpen arms for bounceback years like Politte/Hermanson Trying to package Morel/Flowers/Viciedo/Quentin and Danks/Floyd/Jackson for am impact 3B/DH/RF...while they're throwing money around, they might as well overpay for Adrian Beltre and really go "all in." Then the ongoing dumping of Teahen/Linebrink/Pierre conversations as well.

QUOTE (3E8 @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 08:44 AM) We would lose another pick if we signed Soriano I would say the chances are higher that Roberto Hernandez or Takatsu come back to the Sox. Or the Japanese closer with the M's....which are about 0.001%

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Dec 3, 2010 -> 07:18 AM) IMO Danks + Buerhle to Texas for Holland + Borbon + prospects Dump Pierre for nothing, send the Dodgers cash with him Sign Lee away from the Yankees Danks + Mark + Pierre = $25M Lee + Holland + Borbon = $24M Never going to happen, but with this kind of payroll it would actually be doable. Playoff rotation: Lee Gm 1 Peavy Gm 2 Floyd Gm 3 Jackson Gm 4 (this is especially hilarious because he may actually have the most dominant stuff on the staff, and he's 4th) Holland = emergency starter/third lefty in the pen behind Thornton and Sale We'd win everything. You really seem to have an obsession with Borbon, lol. I guess that's better than the other man crush someone has on G. Parra of the D-Backs. Or G. Blanco. I can't imagine having Lee and a healthy Peavy in the same rotation. I also can't imagine trading Danks and Buehrle in the same move...unless the Rangers are suddenly swimming in cash, they would never even consider that one. One thing would be for sure, it would be the final change of guard with Jenks/Buehrle/Paulie gone and amazingly a catcher as the only one hanging on 6 years later from that World Series roster.

Barry Zito for 5th starter.

By ESPNChicago.comKeith Law reacts to the Adam Dunn signing by the Chicago White Sox, saying that they get a huge upgrade at designated hitter, a position where production was severely lacking last season. But the contract likely will cover the 31-year-old's first declining years, making his long-term impact a bit of a question.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 11:16 PM) + $400K Castro + $3M+ Danks + $2.25M Floyd + $500K Linebrink + $1M Peavy + Tony Pena salary increase + $2M Pierre + ~$1.8M Quentin + $1.65 Ramirez + $2.3M Rios + $2.5M Teahen + $750K Thornton Our payroll is at about $98.55M right now not counting Pena, Quentin or Danks and assuming Dunn will be paid $14M in 2011 and Pierz will get $4M in 2011. Is that counting Viciedo's money too?

I honestly never thought we'd see another $115-120 million dollar roster under JR anytime soon after the 09/10 disappointments. Surprising, to say the least.

QUOTE (jphat007 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 10:47 PM) Nothing that KW said today indicates to me that they are planning to trade anyone. It sounds like KW wants to sign PK, sign AJ and sign a bullpen guy and see what happens. Let's just hope so. I'm still a bit scared with Teahen/Morel at 3B, Viciedo (right now) as the DH/1B...and Sale/Thornton as the closer, but it's 100% better than 24 hours ago in terms of not being a completely bleak and boring offseason.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 10:44 PM) Huh? They're making AJ a starting pitcher? No, I simply meant the SUPPOSED strain on the payroll of adding $20+ million nobody had foreseen over the last 3-4 months AND bringing back Konerko? There's just no way that ALL fits together without SOMEONE (besides Teahen/Linebrink/Pierre) leaving the roster. Most likely, it would have to be one of those three pitchers, it's the only move. Not saying it would be logical for JR/KW to do it...they have to ride out this "all in" philosophy through 2011. Trading any of those 3 with the existing questions about Peavy or Sale as a starter would be asking for the likes of KSU Carlos and Arnie Munoz, Mike Porzio, Felix Diaz, Sean Tracey and Jon Adkins as the 5th.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/...whats-next.html Probably has been posted already and I didn't take the time to read it. Has anyone heard this idea of Anthony Carter being the closer? I could understand if it was Sale, but Carter? This is really getting interesting, with AJ back into the fold, that undoubtedly means Floyd/Danks/Jackson (one of three) are gone and that Sale's back in the rotation picture. Or they're bringing back Garcia and tempting fate. But it's incredibly dangerous to rely on Peavy and Sale as 2/5ths of the rotation...and assuming they'll hold up the entire season without bumps in the road along with way. Viciedo at 1B/DH is still possible, sharing time with Dunn. Or they could package Viciedo, Morel and force someone to take the contracts of Linebrink/Teahen and MAYBE Pierre along with those two guys. Another idea is ditching Quentin, but that seems more unlikely based on the play of Danks and health questions surrounding Mitchell. I really don't see them going out and getting an established closer. KW learned his lesson with Koch. No way they give $30-36 million and 3 years to someone like Soriano. I do think there are still serious concerns about going into 2010 with BOTH Morel and Viciedo in the line-up. One of them, but not two rookies, maybe I'm wrong and severly underestimating Morel's bat, which I'm projecting at a 675ish OPS next year.

This is all about Rogers' relationship with Curtis Granderson. I think he's obsessed with figuring out a way to bring him back to Chicago...unfortunately, it doesn't make much sense. The part that's the most mind-boggling, though, is the idea of bringing in Raul Ibanez and playing him at 1B. If we're going to be a .500 team next year, we might as well do that with Viciedo, Morel, Beckham and Sale rather than a bunch of veteran journeymen like Ibanez, Teahen, Vizquel, Andruw Jones and Mark Kotsay. I know Ibanez was very dangerous 2-3 seasons ago, but his best years have obviously passed and he's uber expensive. This wouldn't be a case of picking up an undervalued/injured player like a Jermaine Dye or Dustin Hermanson on the cheap.

The new Resident Evil is one of the better ones for taking advantage of all the possibilities with 3D, compared to about 85% of the other 3D projects I've seen since then. Glad they held off on "retrofitting" this Potter and are waiting to unveil it with the final one next July.

Always have been a huge fan of Uribe, can't ever think of saying a bad word about him. He's one of the players I advocated bringing back on a number of occasions. As far as the comparison with Linebrink, it's just different for a starting player (which he was for most of his Sox career) versus a middle reliever or set-up guy. I get it, Linebrink 2008=Uribe 2004/05, but you have to take into account that Uribe made some huge plays for our WS winning team. If nothing else, that buys him permanent folk hero status. I don't think very many care about barely getting in to the playoffs in 2008, and certainly his performance in 09 and 10 was comparatively worse than Uribe because Juan ALSO was one of the most important ingredients at stabilizing the left side of the INF after Crede went down in 08. Basically, that year's OMar Vizquel.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 18, 2010 -> 11:53 AM) I found this on facebook, and thought it might be fun. We haven't done a book thread in while, so besides this, it'd be interesting to see what people are reading. Have you read more than 6 of these books? The BBC believes most people will have read only 6 of the 100 books listed here... Instructions: Copy this into your NOTES. Bold those books you've read in their entirety, italicize the ones you started but didn't finish or read an excerpt. 1 Pride and Prejudice - Jane Austen 2 The Lord of the Rings - JRR Tolkien 3 Jane Eyre - Charlotte Bronte [i]4 Harry Potter series - JK Rowling[/i] 5 To Kill a Mockingbird - Harper Lee 6 The Bible 7 Wuthering Heights - Emily Bronte 8 Nineteen Eighty-Four - George Orwell 9 His Dark Materials - Philip Pullman 10 Great Expectations - Charles Dickens 11 Little Women - Louisa M Alcott 12 Tess of the D’Urbervilles - Thomas Hardy 13 Catch 22 - Joseph Heller 14 Complete Works of Shakespeare 15 Rebecca - Daphne Du Maurier 16 The Hobbit - JRR Tolkien 17 Birdsong - Sebastian Faulk 18 Catcher in the Rye - JD Salinger 19 The Time Traveler’s Wife - Audrey Niffenegger 20 Middlemarch - George Eliot 21 Gone With The Wind - Margaret Mitchell 22 The Great Gatsby - F Scott Fitzgerald 24 War and Peace - Leo Tolstoy 25 The Hitch Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams 27 Crime and Punishment - Fyodor Dostoyevsky 28 Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck 29 Alice in Wonderland - Lewis Carroll 30 The Wind in the Willows - Kenneth Grahame 31 Anna Karenina - Leo Tolstoy 32 David Copperfield - Charles Dickens 33 Chronicles of Narnia - CS Lewis 34 Emma -Jane Austen 35 Persuasion - Jane Austen 36 The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe - CS Lewis 37 The Kite Runner - Khaled Hosseini 38 Captain Corelli’s Mandolin - Louis De Bernieres 39 Memoirs of a Geisha - Arthur Golden 40 Winnie the Pooh - A.A. Milne 41 Animal Farm - George Orwell 42 The Da Vinci Code - Dan Brown (I did read Holy Blood, Holy Grail instead) 43 One Hundred Years of Solitude - Gabriel Garcia Marquez 44 A Prayer for Owen Meaney - John Irving aka Simon Burch 45 The Woman in White - Wilkie Collins 46 Anne of Green Gables - LM Montgomery 47 Far From The Madding Crowd - Thomas Hardy 48 The Handmaid’s Tale - Margaret Atwood 49 Lord of the Flies - William Golding 50 Atonement - Ian McEwan 51 Life of Pi - Yann Martel 52 Dune - Frank Herbert 53 Cold Comfort Farm - Stella Gibbons 54 Sense and Sensibility - Jane Austen 55 A Suitable Boy - Vikram Seth 56 The Shadow of the Wind - Carlos Ruiz Zafon 57 A Tale Of Two Cities - Charles Dickens[/b] 58 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley 59 The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time - Mark Haddon 60 Love In The Time Of Cholera - Gabriel Garcia Marquez 61 Of Mice and Men - John Steinbeck 62 Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov 63 The Secret History - Donna Tartt 64 The Lovely Bones - Alice Sebold 65 Count of Monte Cristo - Alexandre Dumas 66 On The Road - Jack Kerouac 67 Jude the Obscure - Thomas Hardy 68 Bridget Jones’s Diary - Helen Fielding 69 Midnight’s Children - Salman Rushdie 70 Moby Dick - Herman Melville 71 Oliver Twist - Charles Dickens 72 Dracula - Bram Stoker 73 The Secret Garden - Frances Hodgson Burnett 74 Notes From A Small Island - Bill Bryson 75 Ulysses - James Joyce 76 The Inferno - Dante 77 Swallows and Amazons - Arthur Ransome 78 Germinal - Emile Zola 79 Vanity Fair - William Makepeace Thackeray 80 Possession - AS Byatt 81 A Christmas Carol - Charles Dickens 82 Cloud Atlas - David Mitchell 83 The Color Purple - Alice Walker 84 The Remains of the Day - Kazuo Ishiguro 85 Madame Bovary - Gustave Flaubert 86 A Fine Balance - Rohinton Mistry 87 Charlotte’s Web - E.B. White 88 The Five People You Meet In Heaven - Mitch Albom 89 Adventures of Sherlock Holmes - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle 90 The Faraway Tree Collection - Enid Blyton 91 Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad 92 The Little Prince - Antoine De Saint-Exupery 93 The Wasp Factory - Iain Banks 94 Watership Down - Richard Adams 95 A Confederacy of Dunces - John Kennedy Toole 96 A Town Like Alice - Nevil Shute 97 The Three Musketeers - Alexandre Dumas 98 Hamlet - William Shakespeare 99 Charlie and the Chocolate Factory - Roald Dahl 100 Les Miserables - Victor Hugo 51, about half...the one that sticks out for me is War and Peace, I have to read that book sometime

But there is one scene that was added, the dancing scene, which wasn't in the book but many moviegoers and reviewers have found absolutely one of the best parts of the new movie. I think that must be one of the few additions to the movies that weren't in the book/s.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/18/sports/b...vestors.html?hp Thought this was very interesting. If I was one of those "dot com" or Facebook multi-millionaires, I would really love to approach the Sox and get involved in something like this...or running a minor league team in one of the five "A" level classifications. I wonder how many more "investors" will pop up in terms of competition and how many will actually make a profit? Having lived in Colombia for one year, the north coast (Cartagena/Baranquilla) would be the other main area that's undertapped...Orlando Cabrera and the Renteria brothers came out of there. Or maybe Panama, with the likes of Mo Rivera and Carlos Lee....probably too much competition already in the D.R. Or maybe even here in China, although I think that would be ultra-complicated with the government. I know the Yankees, Dodgers, Angels, Mariners and Red Sox all have varying degrees of involvement. And I remember a team, I think it was the Pirates, signing a couple of Indian or Pakistani cricket players and attempting to convert them. Anyone know how that experiment is going?

To that earlier list of Ventura, Thomas and McDowell, you can also add the nearly-ready Alex Fernandez, who unfortunately had his career ended by injuries just like another young starter of that era, Jason Bere. The White Sox have really suffered with both Brian Anderson and Joe Borchard failing. If both those players make it and become stars, we wouldn't be having this conversation in all likelihood.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 16, 2010 -> 01:33 PM) Ensure a second term for the incumbent and then fade away? Couldn't you add Ralph Nader's run in 2000 to that list as well? Arguably, Gore won anyway, but those Nader votes definitely tipped it to Bush. Palin's "Tea Party" led to losses in Delaware and Nevada in the Senate, as well as Colorado. Miller didn't even win in her home state. Hilary Clinton has a better chance of being president in 2012 than Palin does.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 16, 2010 -> 10:19 PM) The White Sox have, like, 5 #2 starters right now. It may not be a #2 comparable to the likes of Cole Hamels or Matt Cain, but it's a hell of a lot better than Scott Baker. Except Baker's no longer the #2 for the Twins, he's the 4th guy, pretty much tied with Blackburn and Slowey. Ahead of him are Liriano, Pavano, Duensing and probably Kyle Gibson...although Gibson will probably be in the minors for 2-3 more months.

QUOTE (KipWellsFan @ Nov 15, 2010 -> 10:28 PM) My God, I just watched Antichrist. I don't even know what to say. Fascinating, but absolutely obscene. I can't believe Blockbuster even carries this. Do they also carry The Human Centipede?

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2010/...cut-the-deficit 16 different articles with suggestions for cutting the deficity and an interactive PDF that allows anyone to go through line by line with different projections out into the future with the consequences of your cuts, both short-term and long-term felt like I was watching that movie "Dave" again with Kevin Kline, but its kinda cool I swear to God, if Obama lets both tax cuts continue, I'll be the first to volunteer and help whoever will run against him...but not even he is that tone deaf I think. I like Senator Warner's proposal, extending the tax cuts for the middle class, cutting the "rich" income level down to $ 1 million or less (personally, I think it should be no more than $500,000) and letting those tax cuts expire in 2-3 years down the, but, most importantly, putting in at least $650 billion of pro-business oriented cuts/credits that would engage corporate American in developing a plan that's suitable and will actually create jobs and more certainty going forward. I hate that stupid argument about how all the small business owners are going to be killed. Point of fact, only 2% of businesses/taxpayers would possibly be affected, and that's something like $700 per month at the most, we're not even talking about losing half an employee. If he really had guts (Obama), he'd let both of them expire and fight the GOP tooth and nail about the upper income brackets, but he made such a big deal about the tax break for the bottom 98% that he couldn't conceivably do that. And I don't think he wants to be the president who "raised taxes" (letting the cuts expire and going to Clinton levels, when we were actually balancing the budget) because he won't get any credit for lowering the deficit or balancing the budget if the unemployment rate remains in the 8's or 9's. It's possible to be pro-business without caving on the tax cuts for the rich, they're not mutually exclusive. Millions of dollars from private hedge fund managers went to the GOP this last election cycle to protect their tax rates going forward...you have Erskine Bowles making $350K+ per year on the board of a Wall Street bank telling middle class Americans they can go screw themselves and by the way, work for an extra 4 years with less benefits. The fact of the matter is that while life expectancy has risen, it has certainly not risen for blue collar/labor/industrial workers during the last 20 years.

I can't remember if 500 Days (of Summer) was 09 or this year...but that's another movie in the Scott Pilgrim genre (minus the cartoon/fighting elements) that was pretty enjoyable. I think it's one of those movies that's either sort of appreciated or loved, especially depending on your feelings for Z. Deschanel. Kick-Ass also has similar stylistic points, but my God that movie is violent (moreso than Machete, arguably), especially with such a young teenager starring in the role. But it has kind of put her on the map. Anyone heard anything about Black Swan, the new Natalie Portman movie?