caulfield12

OBE. Overcome by events.

Melky Cabrera as well...

Now you made me think of poor Colas claiming he was on a plantation lol.

Poor Corey Lee...he actually looked legit for most of the first half.

Not without George Steinbrenner running things...

https://sports.yahoo.com/white-sox-installed-former-navy-182907610.html How can you leave out Mahler?

I meant coming off his Mets' deal with an injury rehab. Brandon Woodruff and Hays might be better examples. HaSeong Kim. Questionable (at best) character guys like Clevinger/Bauer, etc. B/C/D free agent guys just haven't worked. At all.

Hahn wasn't even allowed to name his own manager...but is now slowly being made to look almost like a sympathetic Shakespearean character and not a major villain lol.

Who could the White Sox possibly sign to 1-3 year deals except overpays...vets on their last contracts or rehabbing guys like a Hays or Conforto that will bolt at the very chance to escape?

In the same way the risk with a Bellinger extension was too high...the cost for Tucker will be in the stratosphere with a 6-8 fWAR season. Cardinals are already retrenching from Goldschmidt/Arenado years. The opportunity is certainly there for Cincy or the Cubs with their farm, but Milwaukee starts out the clear favorite until someone unseats them.

Fine...if they can sell really high on Cease, like the Astros just did with Tucker. Otherwise, you're a team with six $100+ million contracts in Darvish (through 28), Machado, Tatis, Cronenworth, Bogaerts, Musgrove (TJS and signed through 27) going nowhere fast. Merrill might also be looking at an extension. If you're trading Cease, then why hold on to Michael King as well with limited control? If you don't intend to compete with the LAD and no longer worry about keeping your job (Preller) and keeping your sellouts...trade both those pitchers and put Darvish on the market as well if anyone will bite, because past trades and lack minors depth mean you now have to completely rebuild that rotation from scratch. In that sense, Sasaki to SD makes as much sense as anywhere not NY/LA/SF/Boston/Tor, along with Seattle and the Cubs.

Onion??? Why does Getz look eerily like Jack Nicholson?

This guy simply has to be related to either Getz or Brooks Boyer…he’s also forgetting we will be missing at least two (if not three) Top 1-3 draft picks because of the Jerry Reinsdorf “Sox are a large market club without acting like one draft rule.”

486 [Karoll] Just a reminder of the White Sox Draft and Development History, here is every White Sox hitter over the last 30+ years that the team drafted who became an All-Star with the team: Tim Anderson, Joe Crede, Ray Durham, Frank Thomas. That’s it. For 3 decades. That’s a bit misleading because you also have Ventura, McDowell, Alex Fernandez, Buehrle, Sale, Rodon, but almost all the success on the pitching side. Mike Cameron, but once again, nobody close to recent vintage. Beckham and Borchard disappointments really stand out. Zack Collins lol. Vaguely remember when Call and Fisher and Walker, more “refined” college picks were going to revolutionize the system.

I’m putting Robert down for at least 3 fWAR and Tatis for 4.5…closer to norms. Bullpen you only have Daniel Hudson, Bummer, Ian Hamilton, Foster off the top of my head. It’s basically Grandal Keuchel Steak and Potatoes Hendriks Kimbrel vet relievers like Kelly/Graveman Benintendi…

Leasure was the name everyone was pointing at going into last spring and he barely survived the season. You've got Varland Ellard Wilson Iriarte Bush Nastrini Berroa Leasure again...and a whole lot less veteran depth.

Just look at how the Guardians covered the losses of Bieber and McKenzie internally in 2024. Heck, just look at their Top 8-9 for innings pitched in 2023 and the only name you will see in common is Tanner Bibee.

But it still doesn't come close to where they stood in 2019. Basically double the number of starting pitching prospects with Cease Gio Kopech Lopez Dunning ... Moncada Jimenez Robert Vaughn Madrigal Burger etc. Right now you still have just four legit position prospects and Wolkow's potential/high bust rate.

See Sox 2B prospects since the Marcus Semien trade. Romy Gonzalez had a better season offensively than any White Sox hitter but is basically a 1B DH PH. Baldwin Meidroth Sosa will battle it out at second. Vargas Montgomery Ramos at third.

It's kind of the same with Crochet...dealing one of the best young LHPers in the game, only to (hopefully) replace him with Schultz and Smith.

Especially with Zavala struggling so badly in 2024.

16. Schultz 25. Teel 30. Smith 37. Colson Montgomery 54. Braden Montgomery 59. Quero Ramos and Inciarte are considered to be outside the Top 100...100% Ramos has fallen off. Thorpe/Iriarte/Grant Taylor the closest to Top 100, Thorpe was previously listed with NY/SD but fell out and/or is ineligible due to big league innings. He would be on the back end anyway. Grant Taylor seems to have the most upside after the Big 2 if he can actually stay healthy. source: mlb pipeline

Baez arm and Soler numbers hitting-wise, but I still think he would be hard pressed to come anywhere near Javy's first 5-6 years with the Cubs... So I've changed to a more athletic Hunter Renfroe but certainly not a burner out there.

ASCHE...otherwise, you'll get a relative of Arthur.

If we get the combination of Soler/Javier Baez career-wise, we're going to be QUITE fortunate.