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This is just not a very good take Jack, of course its relevant.

He has been good for the past 3 seasons and is relatively cheap the remainder of this season and next. Hes struggling this year so maybe we could get him cheaper than usual. He would be exactly who we would be interested in.

Cmon guys, if Giolito was on a different bad team right now there would be a huge thread talking about what we would give up to get him. It just so happens hes on our bad team right now and part of the reason we are underachieving so we have a jaded view of him.

We don't need to tear it down to the foundation and rebuild, but they absolutely need to re-tool. Here is what must happen this offseason if we miss the playoffs. * LaRussa is relieved of his duties. * Hahn is relieved of his duties. * A new GM/Manager combo, from outside of the organization, is brought in the reshape the current foundation. That's a start.

While I believe the White Sox did indeed try to win, they certainly weren't ever in the "do whatever it takes to win" category. It was more of a "do what were going to do and if we win great if not, oh well" type of deal. It's also not what we were promised at all.

Do you think anyone on this team hits 20 or more HR's this season? I would lean towards no

Most likely because they weren't going to do that exactly (cover everything)

If everyone on the Sox starts playing like they should be playing, I still think were better. Unfortunately, that's a tall ask.

You don't think its even a little bit of a head scratcher that they committed approx. $5.5 million dollars to another reliever

Sorry, to clarify I wasn't trying to say Cleveland wasn't cheap. I am aware that they are. It was more of a reaction from the comparison to the Sox.

Yes, the White Sox do a great job of having a collection of players in the 10-18 million dollar range. That's how these guys operate. Well offer the 100 million dollar deal even though this guy is going to sign for 150 million plus to say "hey, we are trying".

They are cheap? Were in the Chicago market and haven't given out a contract larger than 73 Million Royals, White Sox, Athletics, Pirates... the only teams in baseball to not exceed a 100 million dollar deal.. pathetic

Sure, the outcome that it all comes together and hes an elite reliever is there. I just don't think that's what is he now moving forward. I think hes having a great year, but I don't think this is what he is in the future.

Jorge Lopez was absolute garbage until this season Either the light switched on at 29 years old and hes an elite closer or hes just having a fluky season and will revert back to the 6.00 ERA gas can he has always been. I would bet the latter

Grandal + cash for mcguire

This roster can’t and won’t win a championship. Way too many slow unathletic DH types also were out money to spend apparently. It would take quite the retooling to salvage the poor roster construction.

He couldn’t have hit it any softer lol

It doesn’t, and not only that we’ve given up our best defensive catcher because of the Seby mirage and took on more reliever salary for next season.

I’m going with infield pop up

What’s sad is you’re not being over the top here, it’s literally what’s happening.

Of course

Actually I think the Sox think they still have a chance. They don’t, but I think they think they do.

Gross, McGuire PLUS for Diekman

Cleveland knows they have no chance even if they win the division. They aren’t trading prospects for fools gold.

Yeah wasn’t that because some knucklehead suggested to trade them Zavala