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Well, looks like Crabtree to SF I see no way they pass on him.

Crabtree wont get past 10, so it doesnt matter

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 25, 2009 -> 01:26 AM) Ladies and genlemen of Soxtalk, I'm trying real hard to watch what i eat. I'm a health nut to the highest degree. what do you guys think of deepdish pizza that consists of only veggies, chicken and minimal cheese? Am I being a fat bartolo colon f*** face by eating this? I want to knowss/ A health nut wouldn't be eating deepdish pizza at 2 in the morning fool

QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Apr 25, 2009 -> 01:44 AM) This is a list of the 25 WRs drafted in the 2nd round since Anquan Boldin was drafted in 2003. Besides Greg Jennings and Vincent Jackson -- 0 pro bowls combined -- who on this list would you qualify as a number 1 receiver? I can't find one. Donnie Avery looked good at times, Eddie Royal was great as a rookie but they are both undersized and are probably 2nd options at best. This isn't to say that the Bears couldn't find a good option in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and so on (berrian was a 3rd rounder) but Boldin is the real deal and they don't have to develop him to find out if he can be a number 1 option. He was a number one option in 2003 (B.F. before Fitzgerald) with Jeff Blake and Josh McCown throwing passes to him. If the deal is Boldin for a 2nd round pick -- I make the deal I wasn't trying to say that you can easily grab a star receiver in the 2nd round, you just made it seem like you couldn't. You can find a good WR anywhere in the draft, that all depends on your scouting etc. and some luck. Its not just limited to the 2nd round. Either way, I think it would be smarter for the Bears to keep that second round pick and work on their defense if they are going to get serious about making this team an elite threat.

QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Apr 25, 2009 -> 12:19 AM) Generally, I understand the notion that you don't trade picks for players. If the Bears were offering a 2nd or 3rd Rd pick for Donald Driver, I would jump on the "don't do it bandwagon." However, when a guy like Boldin becomes available you have to re-consider that philosophy given the context. (Presumably) the Bears would be trading 1/2 picks or a player off their roster for a proven PRO BOWL receiver. If you're going to tell me that you'd rather take a chance that maybe the 6th or 7th receiver taken in the draft will turn out to be better than Boldin... than I simply do not see where you are coming from. There is a marked difference between what the Redskins have tried (Champ Bailey and a 2nd for Clinton Portis WTF?... signing Deion, Bruce Smith, Jason Taylor past their primes) and what the Bears could do -- add a 25 y/o franchise QB and potentially a 28 y/o x3 pro bowl WR at the cost of 5-6 draft picks. Yes. The Bears will have to find ways to supplement their roster outside of the draft, but the level of talent they would add to the roster would be too good to pass up. If Boldin can be had for 2nd and (Vasher, Corey Graham, Harrison, Anderson, or non-core player) than you do it. I understand what you are trying to say, but for what its worth Boldin was a 2nd round draft pick himself.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 24, 2009 -> 11:53 PM) I agree with all this. And I'm one that totally recognizes (and I probably overvalue them) how precious draft picks are in the NFL. But with Cutler aboard now, our priorities have changed considerably. If we can get a weapon like Boldin, who's only 28 and should have another 3-5 solid years left in him, you do it. Unless they get the defense right it doesn't matter if you add Boldin and Fitzgerald, they prolly wont be winning anything.

Im pretty sure I just heard Buster Olney say that Egbert took one for the team tonight and after the game was sent down. Anyone else hear anything about this?

QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 24, 2009 -> 10:54 PM) It's not likely to happen, but it's not inconceivable, either. It's not like Chicago is some tiny market, it's one of the biggest basketball markets in the country. Getting Bosh is much more plausible, but I mean you never know. If the cap space is there... hey, money is money. I wasn't trying to bash Chicago's market, just that LeBron has pretty much had a love affair with New York and I think as a free agent would go there. They could have the cap space, but its not like they would have a higher offer than New Yorks. I think there is a chance, although a small one. I still think hes New York bound though.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Apr 24, 2009 -> 10:41 PM) You never know, a month or so ago people would've said Jay Cutler to the Bears was a pipe dream. The only difference is Jay Cutler didn't have a choice where he went, LeBron James most likely will. He seems pretty set on either staying in Cleveland or going to New York though.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 24, 2009 -> 09:43 PM) Oh I definitely agree that the time taken between picks on the first day (the draft goes at a much quicker pace on day 2) is ridiculous. Other than that? The draft > SB The draft is only > than the SB if no one you care about is playing in it. Don't try to say you would rather watch the draft than a Bears Superbowl game.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2009 -> 09:40 PM) How long are their contracts? 10+ years apparently

QUOTE (rangercal @ Apr 24, 2009 -> 09:28 PM) this poll is only for people who are realistic. 0 is not an option for obvious reasons. Yeah that's not realistic at all.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Apr 24, 2009 -> 09:26 PM) How is drafting Stafford right? The Dolphins won 1 more game then Detroit last year, and they went into the draft and got a franchise LT and signed a veteran QB. The Lions should have done that. That's because the Dolphins liked Chad Henne, not Matt Ryan. Also, just because Chad Pennington fell into their laps (Who is better than anyone Detroit would be able to scoop up before the season starts by a long shot) doesn't mean that EVERY team should follow that type of move. They also have another first round pick which can be used on the best LT left or to help their defense. They took Cherilus last year, maybe the new staff are high on him or think he can get the job done. All I know is, there isn't another QB they can grab like Miami did and when you are making over your franchise, you need to find a QB.

Why isn't there a 0 option.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Apr 24, 2009 -> 09:19 PM) Stafford signs for 6/41.7. All of it guaranteed. IMO, that's cheap considering Ryan got $72 over 6 years with $32 or something guaranteed. Mortensen also says Tyson Jackson to KC at #3 is pretty much a lock. Finally the Lions do something right.. I also HOPE that Jackson is a lock for #3, push some more talent on back.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 24, 2009 -> 08:54 PM) On pace for what, the 5th shutout against us in 3 weeks? Third shut out Pathetic game tonight

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Apr 24, 2009 -> 07:19 PM) Plus if they did that, they'd want to start the 1st round in prime time and than just do all the remaining rounds on day 2. That would be the smart way to do it cause everyone tunes in for the first few picks but a lot of people zone in and out after that. Yeah I think the fact that round 1 and 2 are done in one day and it takes all day they don't really care about putting it into prime time and trying to market it as some huge event that they intend to make big money from. If that's what they wanted to do, it would be round 1 from like 5-10 on Saturday night with the rest of the draft an afterthought. The draft is EXTREMELY boring when your team isn't picking. I will have it on for as long as I can, but I will be doing other stuff and just listening because I don't really give a s*** who Green Bay drafts. Oh Jacksonville doesn't want pick 8? Don't care. Get to Miami so I can either b**** at or celebrate the pick and then sit and wait till they pick again in round 2. The draft isn't geared for large audiences to stay interested in it, and for the most part until your team picks or does something its not that great of an event. I would hate to be a Bears fan for the next two days because of how long you will have to sit there and watch nothing just waiting for that second round pick.

Im just gonna say, who cares what they are thinking about during sex.. thats not what im concerned with

Im surprised no one has mentioned how funny JD's farmers tan is

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 24, 2009 -> 02:51 PM) I'm not saying it's logical, but I can almost guarantee that is why they did it. If it was 100% for the teams only, rounds 1 and 2 would be 15min and the draft would start at 10am. But it's not 100% about the teams. it about fans and views. Viewers dotn want to sit around for 15 minutes waiting for a pick and 3-5 hours for their team to draft. Viewers don't want to sit around for 10 minutes waiting for a pick and it is STILL going to take hours for some people to see their team pick (Like Me) I get what you are trying to say, however, if it was all about the fans they would start it earlier so people aren't waiting till 10-11 pm to find out whats going on with their team. Its a Saturday, start that sumb**** around Noon

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 24, 2009 -> 02:48 PM) NFL = Popular Draft = Popular Prime-Time = More money (regardless of cable or broadcast) NFL + Draft + Prime-Time = $$$$$$$$$$$$ Except its on a Saturday, so it doesn't need to be in prime time as most people will be able to watch whenever. Add in the fact that starting it at noon still takes it into primetime anyways.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 24, 2009 -> 02:45 PM) $$$$$$$$$ Prime-Time $. Money from what? Its on cable TV on a Saturday

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 24, 2009 -> 02:40 PM) I read the wrong start time (Day 2 starts at 9am) Day 1 starts at 3pm, per wikipedia. So the Bears draft at about 10:10pm... good lord! Yeah its horses*** The draft needs to start at 10am or noon at the latest. Especially if its going to take all f***in night.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 24, 2009 -> 02:32 PM) Teams are allowed 10 minutes for a first round pick, and 7 minutes for a second round pick. So, assuming no trades (which resets the clock) and every team takes the full time allotted, then the bears will be picking 7.2 hours into the draft, which is is sometime after 4:10pm central. Are you sure about that? Im pretty sure I heard the draft starts at like 3 pm central time

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Apr 24, 2009 -> 02:28 PM) Especially since were trading our second round pick for Boldin..... I wish... You shouldn't wish Its beyond dumb to give away all your draft picks for players. Its even sillier to think that works. You build your team through the draft, not trading picks. It hasn't worked out for Washington, it wont work out here either. I doubt the Bears are in those talks anyways. And seeing that its going to take 3-4 hours to get to pick #25.. it could feel like an eternity before you get to see the Bears do something.