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QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 30, 2013 -> 01:25 PM) Out of common courtesy, I personally use a 48 hour window with spoiler tags for TV shows. Yeah, I try to be vague right after something airs, but in this case I figured it would be a give in that everyone that watches the saw either saw it last night, or knows better not to read this thread. And speaking of TV shows airing last night, Boardwalk was pretty good. I love Eddie's new role, that was a lot of fun to see him enjoy himself, and the thing with Eli's kid is kind of weird, unless we see him delve in to the crime world, which I guess is the only reason he would be getting so much air time I suppose. And when did George/Van Alden start building a house? I must have missed that part earlier.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 30, 2013 -> 01:05 PM) What happened to spoiler tags? The only reason I didn't was because I figured everyone and their mother would be watching last night, and anyone who missed it would be aware enough to avoid most of the internet, especially a TV thread. I hope nothing got spoiled for anyone, though.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 30, 2013 -> 12:54 PM) You are basing a lot on the NBA. NBA hell is a .500 record because you aren't good enough to win it all, and aren't bad enough to get much better because of salary caps and immediate impacts of draft picks, and the fact that if you don't have a pick in the top few, chances of drafting a star that can lead you to a title aren't that great. That is different in the other sports. In fact, .500 next year for the Sox could be considered the next step to contention. It might not be, but baseball hell is going decades without a chance to win, like KC and Pittsburgh. Or what Houston or the Cubs or Minnesota are doing. Maybe it pays off in the end, but I would be willing to bet at least 2 of the 3 wind up very dissappointed if they are totally relying on prospects for their "sustained success". Hah, trust me, I base NOTHING on the NBA.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 30, 2013 -> 12:45 PM) It's not. You said you wanted us to not know whether he died or was just enjoying meth. I said when he closes his eyes initially. Obviously when they slowly zoom out and the cops show up on the scene and he isn't moving, he is presumed dead. It would be the exact same shot that we saw, only we would see him close his eyes. BrBa uses misdirection like that all the time, like for when that half second we all thought Gus somehow survived the explosion, until we saw his face. We would see Walt close his eyes not knowing if he is just enjoying the euphoria, then as it zooms out we'd see how he is sprawled out on the ground and cops approaching and know that he is dead. But yeah, anyway, worst ending ever. LOL.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 30, 2013 -> 08:10 AM) 85 wins is barely above average, and they missed the playoffs. How is that a good year? You are moving the goal posts. This was not a good year by any stretch of the imagination. You can argue that the team needed this year, but arguing that this was a good year is absolutely ridiculous. LOL, how am I moving the goal posts, when I never defined them? You and your boy Greg are making up what my definition of "good" is, and then trying to use whatever you come up with against me. You never asked me what I consider a good season, only that whatever you THINK I will say.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 30, 2013 -> 08:07 AM) So you don't like that we don't know for sure what happened to Skyler but you wanted an open ending with Walt? How is dead on the ground with the cops around you an open ending?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 30, 2013 -> 02:27 AM) By YOUR very reasoning I don't understand how you now say last year was a good year. That goes against all the points you have been making. The Sox choked the last two weeks and didn't make the playoffs, meaning they had an "average" year by your printed standards on this board. You said, "If you aren't going to have a good year, the next best thing is a bad year. The order in fates you want for your team go.... 1) Very good 2) Very bad 3) Average" So now last year was a good year?? I mean to many of us, it was a good year because we were .500ish and in the race. How so by your standards? We fell off the map and we were not 1.) Very good. So that means you want No. 2. Very bad. And the Sox were not very bad. Seems like you are backtracking. Show me where I stated you can only have a good year if you made the playoffs. That's the part of the argument you are pulling out of thin air and trying to use against me.

Man, the Chiefs D was an amazing FA pickup for me a few weeks ago. Trying to trade the Bears D to anyone right now.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 30, 2013 -> 02:07 AM) I think that's what a lot of the draftlovers are saying. I think they don't want a pennant race if they know we are going to fall short, even with 85 wins or so. They want playoffs and if they don't get that, they want 99 losses. Stop.Arguing.Points.That.No.One.Is.Making.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 30, 2013 -> 01:52 AM) So, rather than winning 85 games last year and nearly winning the division, you would have rather the team been terrible, because it's only average and the team missed the playoffs. Just so we have it on the record. Wrong. Last year was a good year.

Oh yeah, and in that final scene where Walt is around all the cooking supplies, I thought we were going to see him die with a meth pipe in his mouth. I thought maybe since he thought he was going to die anyway, he would go ahead and try his creation that got everyone killed. And then we could have tied that part in to the "he takes over the traits of those he kills" theory, because before he killed Uncle Jack, Uncle Jack grabs his cigarette and takes one last drag. I wanted to see Walt smoke some meth, and then close his eyes as the camera floats away, not knowing if he closed his eyes because he is feeling the euphoria, or because he is dead at that moment. But obviously that didn't happen, and maybe it's because that would have been a little TOO out of character for him.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 29, 2013 -> 09:42 PM) Excellent beatdown post! Some of the people who were begging for us to lose every game (not Fathom, I think he really wanted the draft pick) struck me as having very little pride in the Sox and being a Sox fan. It's almost like they were glad we were out of it so they didn't have to worry about us being in a pennant race or something. I could be mistaken but I caught a weird vibe from the draft people, almost like they preferred not having a good team. It's like they only want a great team that runs away with the division and if we cant have that, they are fine with 99 losses. You managed to entirely miss what anyone wants. You blanketed exactly 0 people with that statement. *POW* *BANG* *SHAZAAM* ***B-B-B-B-BEEEEEATDOWN POST!!!***

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 29, 2013 -> 09:27 PM) That is absolutely the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. Being average is not the worst thing because that means you are winning some and that you are at least relatively close to having a winning team. Being terrible and losing most of your games is the worst thing which is why sport leagues give high draft picks and the right to pick the very best players in the draft to those worst teams. By your logic, the Sox could lose 90-100 games for the next 50 years and it'd be perfectly fine by you. I mean, if you can lose for 1 year and it's a good thing, then you can assuredly lose for the next 50 years and it'd be good too. What does winning 70 games every season for 50 years get you? The fact that the worst teams get the best draft picks is EXACTLY why being average is the worst thing you can be. You don't get anything good for being an average team. EDIT: And I never said being terrible was better than being great. If you aren't going to have a good year, the next best thing is a bad year. The order in fates you want for your team go.... 1) Very good 2) Very bad 3) Average

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 29, 2013 -> 10:58 PM) Thing is, at this stage of his career why would he be unfocused? He's just starting his career; he should be so happy to be playing MLB. I wouldn't say he is just starting his career. He has been in the majors for parts of 6 years, and he will be 30 in April. His career is halfway done, at least.

Wish we could have seen what happened to Skyler.

QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 29, 2013 -> 11:15 PM) De Aza's faults are correctable and that's a good thing You can't fix stupid.

In Talking Bad all they keep talking about is how every loose end was tied up, but I can think of at least 3 or 4 loose ends right now that we never saw.

Could have been better, but I feel a little let down right now.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 29, 2013 -> 09:52 PM) First 50 minutes of this finale is terribad. Not terrible, but certainly slow and uneventful after Walt left Gretchen and Elliot's.

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 29, 2013 -> 08:19 PM) Since nobody knows Hanks buried in the middle of the desert, I'd say you'll be wrong. Haha, yes, yes, but I assumed they still make some sort of grave marker for people lost in battle without a body to bury. Hank would have been missing for at least 3-4 months, plus whatever flashforward we could get again. Maybe this is not something that is done, I don't know, I just feel like they are somehow going to show us a scene where the family mourns losing Hank but doesn't give any consideration toward's Walt's death.

My Breaking Bad prediction for tonight is that at some point we see Skyler at a grave site, or maybe we see Walt Jr as well, and instead of it being Walt's grave like we all expect, it will be Hanks grave. Kind of a weird and vague prediction, but it just came to me. Not sure what the rest will entail.

I guess I'll be playing Danny Woodhead next week.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 29, 2013 -> 05:53 PM) Getting an A-ball player is basically nothing. With two years of team control left, he still is competent enough to have value. A player like him is perfect for a rebuilding team. He can hit and was much better defensively in 2012, so he's not a lost cause. Good, I hope other teams think he has value and think he become an average defensive CF. Let some other team find out if that's true.

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 29, 2013 -> 04:03 PM) I thought she was pretty hot last year but yikes. She's not ugly or anything. Just took me by surprise. Last night: Last year:

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Sep 29, 2013 -> 02:47 PM) I'm still fairly early in the game (just did ), but I like it a lot more than IV. I thought they took things way too seriously with that one and the characters were mostly forgettable (and the ones that weren't were because I found them annoying as hell). I've already done a bunch of crazy s*** and I find the characters far more interesting. I also LOVE that they finally added in-mission checkpoints. I almost broke my controller at the end of IV because I had to repeat the last mission from the very beginning like 20 times because I kept missing the jump in the middle. No more! The lack of checkpoints was a gamebreaker for me in GTA 4. I didn't mind the story or the rest of the game, but I got sick and tired of driving 5 minutes to start every mission that I failed. So stupid.