Kenny Hates Prospects

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 12:14 PM) That could have been a banner for local race for Comptroller. Paul Gustaffson is running this year. No, Konerko was the clearest thing I could make out. Once I saw that I could make out the rest.

I just had a small plane go over me pulling a banner saying "Vote For Paul Konerko." Are fans behind this? Maybe the one or more of the players? Pretty cool anyway.

Rios for Lowe is a horrible, horrible idea. No matter how poor he has played this year, trading a much younger multi-talented CFer at his lowest point for an old NL starter, when you don't even need starting pitching, is ridiculous. As for Quentin, I don't see why Kenny would make that deal. Not now. We need that bat, and no matter how much he wants to pander to Ozzie, he's more loyal to Reinsdorf than anything else, and he cares more about winning than pleasing Ozzie. Pierre is getting a long leash, but if Kenny needs Dayan up here then either he goes or both he and Rios see big drops in playing time. I would definitely shop Lillibridge now though. Makes too much sense not to. Does someone out there think he can be a starter, or at least a UT man who gets starters' playing time? Also, De Aza has nothing on Pierre. I'm far from a Pierre fan, but whatever De Aza is hitting in Charlotte, it doesn't matter. Pierre has tons of MLB experience and De Aza has virtually none. IMO there's really no reason for either of them to be here even in spite of some of Juan's recent heroics, but if there had to be just one, it is Pierre by a mile. I think Kenny is probably shopping Jackson, i.e. a half year of a #3 type pitcher with an ace ceiling + guaranteed Type A comp in the offseason, with the reality being that Borass likely steers Jackson to a contender in the bottom-15, which means a first and a supplemental first. That is worth an excellent haul and should bring in exactly what we really need, which in my eyes is bullpen help. Rios and Dunn simply aren't this bad and the offense should improve as the summer goes on like it always does, however the bullpen should be expected to fade a bit later on and it is very weak at the front. But if we do address the offense then I would like to see us do something along the lines of the Bourn deal, because that at least replaces a weak link that can't be reasonably expected to strengthen over time, meaning Pierre. Otherwise, I am not sure there's a fit out there. Any deal we make, it needs to make us better in August and September, not just right now in the first week of July. And as far as moving Teahen - dear God I cannot believe I am going to say this - but I like Teahen's bat off the bench in the postseason, and since we'll have to eat pretty much all of that thing, I'd rather have the PH.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jun 20, 2011 -> 06:16 PM) Sunk cost. 90% of the world understands it. The White Sox do not. EDIT: Although I don't believe they actually have that mindset. I'm fairly confident that Pierre continues to get starts because he's the type of player that Ozzie likes. This is just Rongey's (the organization's, really) way of deflecting that and giving it a more "reasonable" cause. They've shown little tendency or desire to maximize player contracts recently (signing and benching Teahen, Manny pick-up for a month, the Peavy/Rios acquisitions to an extent, etc.). I think you've hit the nail right on the head here. He's Jerry Owens. He's Dewayne Wise. He's Pablo Ozuna and Timo Perez and Darin Erstad. He's got the blood of Rob Mackowiak coursing through his veins. Ozzie does stupid s*** all the time and Kenny just backs off or backs him up -- and BTW that's the real problem with that whole relationship, not that they fight, but that they just simply don't seem to complement each other's strengths or cover each other's weaknesses anymore.

Ranger should go on the radio and trash the entire organization like any other passionate fan. Who cares about tomorrow when the sky is falling right f***ing now!!!! But Milkman is right. The corn is in the crapper, just flush and move on. We don't owe him anything beyond this year, and even if he were playing decently he still wouldn't be worth a s*** in trade since he won't bring a pick back and no one would offer arb on his old Dodgers contract. The Sox reasoning is retarded (there's something new), but Ranger is just doing his job.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 16, 2011 -> 10:27 AM) Decent my ass. He's dominating at 19. And my reign of terror will be godlike if Hudson shuts us down and Jackson is his usual mediocre, I need 100 pitches to get through 4 1/3 innings, self. I bet it'd be just like the other 11 reigns of terror you go on during a calendar year.

Where's Killibridge? Go Sox, beat these assholes tonight and send a message. The Injuns aren't real, never were, but the Twins will be in it. Gotta beat those guys this year.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 15, 2011 -> 02:49 PM) So who are the players that Hawk seems to have a love for even though they're not exactly all star players? I can think of the following: - Carlos Gomez (Team Captain) - Kurt Suzuki - Randy Ruiz - Brandon Inge - Matt Harrison

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 4, 2011 -> 12:16 AM) he really is my little hero That's kind of cute actually. I bet he walks around the dugout boasting (in a chipmunk voice) about all the steroids he does in the offseason when nobody's looking.

QUOTE (knightni @ May 5, 2011 -> 05:39 PM) Interesting segue from "All in my ass" to polish sausage. I think part of the problem is that Soxbadger's ass is expelling too much sausage. The good stuff goes in and gets digested, the bad stuff just heads for the exit like a bad movie. What's happening here is a nutritional catastrophe and Soxbadger is suffering from it. We should all lend him our support and do whatever it takes to bring back the good sausage before he ends up all sickly and anemic.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 5, 2011 -> 02:41 PM) I'm still disappointed someone added the comma to the title of the thread. The comma was never intended, neither were the quotation marks. I titled the thread "All In My Ass" deliberately because I wanted to put forth the secondary implication that this team was also a pile of s***. I understood even before I posted the thread that some others would immediately associate the title with gay sex, but I didn't really care because I figured most people would get it anyway. And actually, now that I think about it, I do kind of feel sexually violated by the performance of this sorry excuse for a baseball team, so that implication fits nicely too. Wite got it immediately. Soxbadger picked up on it shortly thereafter and the two began reeling off s*** jokes much to my delight. You get it also. IMO it is time to officially change this thread title back to what it was originally intended to be. All in favor of this motion say "I". I.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 3, 2011 -> 11:45 PM) Watching sarcastically...that's actually a good reason to see the Sox. Just have the commercials be "Hawk's Greatest Hits" with the Benny Hill Yaketty Sax music playing in the background. And then at the end they could say "White Sox Baseball.... that's all we got." Edit: you could do an entire commercial on the hiney bird explanation alone. Also the play where Beckham? IIRC fouls a ball off his nuts and Hawk laughs about it for twenty minutes, like "Heeeehhheeeeeeeeeeee heeeeheeeeeheeee HEEEEEE heeeEEEEE" like that fisherman guy on TV, whatever his name is. Nobody here knows what I'm talking about.

QUOTE (gravybread @ May 3, 2011 -> 10:42 PM) i would just like to respond to the original post. Goff actually said the pitchers DO like him. you misunderstood.

QUOTE (chw42 @ May 3, 2011 -> 11:24 PM) Truthfully, I wasn't expecting too much that year. But I sure as hell didn't expect 72 wins. We had a brand new bullpen and a new SP, all young unproven players for the most part. And we were counting on solid years from the likes of Pods, Contreras, etc. Yeah, I didn't see 72-90 but being a non-contender wasn't all that surprising. 2006 was surprising, but the Sox were a very good team all year until the typical choke job late where they let the Twins eat their lunch (as usual). That was a flawed team, but in baseball where you have a 25-man roster and maybe 30-40 different players take the field over the season, is there any such thing as a team without flaws? That team was disappointing in that they only won 90 games in a division with IIRC a 95-win and a 96-win team. But here in 2011 we're in a bad division and we should be expected to win 90+ games without even trying, and yet we're on pace to win about 18.

Can't really get the stallion image there, but now that you mention it, Chris Bosh does look like a turtle. Seriously, lol. Edit: Too bad he's not a turtle because then he wouldn't be able to get up after flopping like a b****.

QUOTE (knightni @ May 3, 2011 -> 11:10 PM) "All in your ass?" That sounds painful. If you're used to being full of s*** then the extra stretching isn't so bad.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 3, 2011 -> 11:05 PM) Oh, it's terrible. I saw him live for the first time of ever seeing his standup. It was funny because I was drinking and it was Danny Tanner cursing and talking about f***ing the Olsen twins. I saw a special of his since then, and it was the exact same routine. I mean exactly the same. Same story for me. I thought he was funny so I checked out more of his stuff. Same thing exactly. Same words, same order of words. He strikes me as the kind of dude who calls his credit card company under the guise of clarifying a statement but really just to ramble off old John Stamos stories to someone who is paid to not hang up. He loves John Stamos IIRC, I mean like really.

Liriano did to us exactly what Ryan Bukvich did to both Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz of the Red Sox that one time during the 2007 season by inexplicably retiring good hitters.

2011 because there's just no reason for this at all. Kenny built a team on paper that should be at least in 2nd place right now. The players are vomiting all over themselves and Reinsdorf looks like an idiot for actually believing in his team enough to run out the highest payroll in Sox history. And that brings me to another point, which is that this 2011 team may go down in history, at least for the next 5+ years, as the singular reason why JR won't spend anymore. And it would be hard to blame him. And if that happens, we can all thank these great players, managers, and coaches for their contributions this season, on and off the field. This isn't on Kenny and it isn't on JR IMO. Even Mark Teahen has a pulse for God sakes. This is all on the players.

LOL at Dick Allen and fathom. Brooks needs to see this thread.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 3, 2011 -> 10:39 PM) We could even have Bob Saget host it! Off topic, but has anyone seen his stand-up act since Full House? It's f***ing miserable. Same tired material interspersed with Full House stories. He's a zombie. The only worthwhile thing he's done in 15-20 years was a cameo in Half Baked.

Elvis dog night? Halfway to Christmas? Bobblehead appreciation night? Somewhere in Chicagoland a disconsolate and idealess Brooks Boyer is staring blankly at an unforgiving promotional poster. Free handjob night?

QUOTE (Pale Sox @ May 3, 2011 -> 10:00 PM) At his reflection, preferably. lol zing

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ May 3, 2011 -> 10:07 PM) Two things: 1.) Best thread title in Soxtalk history 2.) I saw this happen in person. As disappointing as it was, it was still pretty cool to watch something historic For those of you who are Facebook friends with me, I'm uploading the video of the final out right now (with extremely brief commentary at the very end). Congrats! Since we're clearly doing nothing this year, you just happened to luck out for what will probably be the most relevant game of the season. BTW I'm in no way angry at the Twins, Liriano, any of those guys. Congrats to them all. But Liriano was hittable tonight - very hittable. Not diminishing the accomplishment either. We just suck.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 3, 2011 -> 10:01 PM) I would suggest that the White Sox run another blackout, except this time it is called "JACKOUT BLACKOUT". Except instead of giving out black shirts, they give out .375's of Yukon Jack, and before the game, everyone must chug it. Then the drunkest must attack the Twins. It's flawless. How about we just pave the field and roll out the monster trucks? Forget this baseball stuff entirely. But if the game must go on, then I do like the idea of getting the fans as drunk and belligerent as humanly possible. We could have a promotion where the first 6,000 fans get a bottle of Boone's Farm, and that way when only 3,000 show up (infernal weather!) each fan gets an extra bottle. Sounds like a plan to me. Oh, and we can have an Amway get rich quick scheme promotion too! Fill the parking lot with beat up Ford Escorts and the stadium with bad tie-wearing, marker board-toting independent business owners! Presentations all day! Make money now!