Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 8, 2018 -> 02:43 PM) Was this in reference to his most recent performance or when he was left off last year? He said “prior to the trade” which to me means around the trade deadline.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 8, 2018 -> 01:39 PM) Wasn't Nick Delmonico left off the top 30 list last season? He could bounce back and be relevant. Norris called him “one of the more universally panned prospects” he talked with scouts about.

Another interesting nugget is Gillaspie not making the top 30 list. Not very glowing comments about him either.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 8, 2018 -> 12:40 PM) The Chiefs Kingdom (Ver 2.0) @1_ChiefsKingdom Bombshell! Nagy to Bears was a done deal before Chiefs playoff game. Reid took back play scheming and calling to allow Nagy time to prep for his interview. Nagy helped script first 15 plays with Reid, who then took over play calling. Wow, glad to hear that's what happened. Because Nagy was probably #1 on my list before that second half meltdown.

QUOTE (KnightsOnMintSt @ Jan 8, 2018 -> 12:31 PM) Hansen was the one I was very curious about. I wonder if he cracks the Top 40? Robert was 45th on their midseason list and I can’t imagine his stock fell much. Hansen should theoretically have a chance of being top 40 if they rank him above Robert.

I wonder how many of our guys crack the top 100 list now. Obviously the top 4 are all but a certainty and probably all top 50 prospects. Will be interesting to see if/where those next few guys slot in. Just for some context, Rutherford & Cease were ranked 36th & 83rd respectively on their mid-season list. Cease has clearly fallen off the list if he’s behind Sheets. As bad as Rutherford was for us, I don’t see him completely dropping off the list given how high they were on him before. Landing 8 top 100 prospects does seem unlikely IMO, although I think cases can definitely be made for Dunning, Collins, & Burger.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 7, 2018 -> 08:39 PM) My complaint with Nintendo consoles is the lack of longevity and the sever lack of quality titles. However, the quality titles are indeed great. Super Mario Galaxy remains one of the greatest games I’ve ever played, and if I wanted to burn my money, I’d get rah Nintendo console that releases one or two Mario games. Alas, there’s no longevity and they stop developing for the systems way too quickly. I can agree with this. I do think Nintendo moving to one platform will help with the software droughts. And Mario Galaxy and it’s sequel are two of the greatest games of all-time. They both definitely deserve the GOAT praise they receive.

QUOTE (KagakuOtoko @ Jan 7, 2018 -> 03:31 PM) Saints -7, +101 ~ $100 to win $101 Risky pick but hopefully the worst that comes is a push Thanks, appreciate the tip!

QUOTE (KagakuOtoko @ Jan 7, 2018 -> 11:13 AM) Bills +9. Both teams inexperienced. Jags are pretenders. I was tempted to take Bills outright, but this is the safer play. -120 ~ $120 to win $100 Nice pick here! What are you doing in the Saints-Panthers game?

QUOTE (danman31 @ Jan 7, 2018 -> 02:03 AM) Take it easy. I didn't say it was bad, but there is a definite bias with Nintendo. It got the same boost that all Nintendo games get. The "ranked as one of the best of all time" hyperbole certainly doesn't help. Again you say all this without having actually played the game. And maybe instead of there being a bias, is it possible that Nintendo simply makes some of the best, most polished pure gameplay experiences in the industry? How have you formed this opinion that a bias exists? Do you actually play Nintendo games every now & then? I’d love to hear your thoughts on what other Nintendo games are overrated.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Jan 6, 2018 -> 11:16 PM) I haven't played Zelda so I won't hate on it, but I was definitely surprised at how critics compare the two games. Horizon was so much damn fun and I can't shake the feeling if Zelda wasn't a Zelda game made by Nintendo it wouldn't receive the same level of praise. So you think a game that’s literally ranked as one of the best of all time only received those kudos because it’s published by Nintendo. It’s amazing how many people feel the need to hate on the game without actually playing it.

QUOTE (KagakuOtoko @ Jan 6, 2018 -> 07:01 PM) If you take that line at that price, you should just take the Titans to cover. Why?

I took Chiefs - 3 1/2 @ -250.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 6, 2018 -> 01:44 PM) Charge him! Hah. I like Tennessee and LA What do you like about the Titans?

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 6, 2018 -> 12:57 PM) Can't believe you guys are spending all this time arguing about Joakim Soria. Lol. Kagaku, you betting on either of the NFL games today? If so, mind sharing your picks?

My predictions: 1. Jimenez, OF 2. Kopech, RHP 3. Robert, OF 4. Hansen, RHP 5. Rutherford, OF 6. Cease, RHP 7. Dunning, RHP 8. Collins, C 9. Burger, 3B 10. Adolfo, OF

With the list coming next week, thought it would be fun to predict the order. I’ll update this post with the actual list once it becomes available.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Jan 5, 2018 -> 08:22 AM) Is Breath of the Wild just a poor man's Horizon Zero Dawn? Struggling to understand the hype here. The plot premise is really really similar, but BotW's storytelling, characters, combat, graphics, sound, UI, and exploration are all far worse. Some of these design decisions (crafting to heal, weapons that break every 5 minutes, stamina system) are baffling. The only area it excels so far is with the puzzle shrines. I'm only like 5 hours in. Does this get better? You may be the first person on the planet to call the exploration in BoTW far worse than Horizon. That’s biggest single element of the game. I’m guessing you’re still in the Great Plateau, because once you leave the game opens up like none other.

The posters on SSS have a much different view on this trade.

I see Robert on a Hansen like track. A month in low A, most of the season in high A, and a month in AA.

Just to provide some context on how he performed based on leverage: FIP Low: 1.81 Med: 2.60 High: 2.28 wOBA Low: .232 Med: .277 High: .278 BABIP Low: .296 Med: .328 High: .364 LOB % Low: 76.2% Med: 93.5% High: 30.4% At face value, it seems like he got pretty unlucky in high leverage situations which would explain the amount of blown saves.

QUOTE (FT35 @ Jan 5, 2018 -> 12:23 PM) I don’t know...I’m not sure it’s wise to think that other GMs besides Hahn and a few others are not patient and know what they are doing. There are a few who need to go, but this day in age, the model for success has been illustrated and executed enough, that it takes the thinking part out for most GM’s. They know the nuances of their jobs just like we know ours. Now that it’s been proven that there’s an art to rebuilding, you’re going to see teams model theirs after what’s worked before you see a true fire sale where GMs essentially give away their organizational assets for nothing. I just think those days are behind us. It's not that they don't know what they're doing, it's more about not having the endless job security that comes with being a Reinsdorf front office. Some GMs are going to have much less leeway to be patient and will need to pick a direction to appease their owners.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 5, 2018 -> 09:02 AM) I don't see where getting rid of their best asset for whatever they can get for him without holding out for something better, be it next week, next month, next year, gives them a better direction. If the Sox traded Q for whatever they could get last winter, the rebuild would be a little bit further back than what it is now. Again, not disagreeing with anything your saying, but not every front office is going to be as patient as Hahn was. Nothing that Jeter & his staff could do would surprise me at this point.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 5, 2018 -> 10:19 AM) This peripherals argument is weak. I look at his peripherals in 2016 and they suggest he is well on the road to done. Now his peripherals, like his traditional stats improve and suddenly he is a good flip candidate. The trade was fine, but lets not talk about him being a good flip candidate. A good flip candidate gets you something interesting back. This guy will get you maybe, if all goes well, a 26 year old in A ball who throws 100 and walks about 1 an inning. Lol what? There’s no guarantee he’ll be good next year and that we’ll get something solid for him, but the possibility most definitely exists and the peripherals & velocity support that.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 5, 2018 -> 09:56 AM) Even if you were to separate the deal into signing Soria to 1/7 plus an option year and a second deal trading Peter for Avilan, it is still a good deal. 100% agree.