Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 04:58 PM) This lineup needs a real LH bat They'll get one before the deadline. The good news is they only used $5M of their financial flexibility and still have all their top trade chips.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 03:25 PM) Done deal. Players being informed according to Cotillo. We should get details shortly then. Really think it might be Erik Johnson & Fernando Tatis Jr. If the Padres eat half his salary, that's a good deal for the Sox.

Rollins better not be DHing.

QUOTE (chisox802 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 12:03 PM) I am probably one of the few people that would not mind Shields. As long as we don't pay too much of his contract. The guy will pitch better than he has with SD. I feel the same way if the trade is on our terms. The words "compelling offer" scares me quite a bit.

QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 10:46 AM) This Cubs team in this National league should have a couple of WS appearances. I'm not guaranteeing it, but we all need to get over the Cubs real fast. They're not going away. Cubs aren't going away, but willhave their best shot this year and next in a weak NL and Arrieta still under contract.

It's official, Coats has been recalled.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 09:24 AM) There's little risk for one of those cellar-dwelling NL teams to stick him on a roster for one year and see if they can fix his mechanical issues...stranger things have happened. Remember, we did the same thing with Nieto at catcher and have nothing to show for it. Did Nieto really have more upside than Hawkins still carries today? I don't think so. With the continued success of Thompson and Semien, other teams might start paying a bit more attention to some of our more athletic players and figure out ways to maximize their ability. High first round draft picks are simply embarrassing for GM's to cast aside until there's no other choice, like they did with Jared Mitchell after giving him about 3 too many chances. Catcher is an incredibly scarce position, corner outfielder is not. I do agree there is some chance the ego factor could be at play and cause Hahn to protect him, although I still feel that would be the wrong decision. Courtney Hawkins will never be a good major leaguer IMO and there's no reason to waste a 40 man spot on him.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 08:31 AM) They protected Walker and Mitchell for quite awhile, didn't they? I would still be surprised if they just gave up on Hawkins...maybe next year. Not protecting someone does not mean they're giving up them. Like I said, if Hawkins continues to strike out at a 35% clip, which would be worse than his first year in AA, there would be absolutely no risk in losing him. Walker & Mitchell at least provided plus speed & defense, so there was hypothetically a chance some team would snag them in the Rule 5 and use them as a bench piece. Hawkins simply doesn't have the skillset to be a Rule 5 pick.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 08:35 AM) All that's fine and good, but there's just no way the Brewers would accept that package. And there's also no way JR would authorize taking on the Braun contract, so it's a moot point. Why wouldn't JR authorize taking on the Braun contract? And you're probably right that the Brewers wouldn't take that package, although I'd argue that the Sox taking on Braun's entire contract might be enticing to them. Back problems are always a concern and not having a DH spot as a backup option is pretty risky. Given how he's produced so far, I think they will be very motivated to move him while there a few teams still interested and willing to take a gamble on him.

QUOTE (Scoots @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 08:12 AM) Sands being sent down then? Kahnle got sent down last night.

We better f*** Pelfrey up today. Dude is a joke and if we can't get it together against him, I'm generally going to be worried about our offense.

He will be up. We know they're calling up a position player and he's the most obvious candidate. Plus he didn't play last night which pretty much confirms it. Hopefully they actually give him a couple of starts.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 07:35 AM) Just asking a simple question from the guy who really covers this stuff. How is this hateful? Lighten up. Because you have an agenda against guys like Hawkins and it was evident once again based on your post.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 3, 2016 -> 03:52 PM) Any one with any sense of actually building a winning organization that can contend year after year. But people who admire what the Padres did last season would welcome this type of proposal. I just wonder why the Brewers are rebuilding when they have such an elite core like that. Dude, every time you post I come this close to being suspended. It's literally taking everything I have not to explode right now, but posts like this make it hard. I purposely put that trade package for a reason. We'd be giving up one top 100 prospect, three organizational top 10 guys, one semi high-profile Latin American signing who is year's away, and two interesting AAA guys with big question marks. The only guy in reality it would suck losing is Fulmer. The rest are solid prospects with a high probability of never becoming above average players at the major league level. The package may appear to be a lot on the surface, but it really is not. In return we'd be getting the best catcher in baseball based on WAR, a top 10 hitter in baseball based on wRC+, and a premier left-handed reliever. This trade would address our offensive concerns while allowing us to keep two of three top prospects (Anderson & Adams). Braun & Smith both have multiple years of control, while Lucroy would only have one more of control but at a very favorable price. You talk about wanting to build an organization that can win year after year, but relying on a bunch of fringe prospects isn't the answer to that. The clock on our core is ticking and either we can go for it while these guys provide surplus value or we can wait years for the system to be able to produce impact talent on a regular basis. Your plan of a bunch of AAAA types filling out all the holes on our roster is the absolute worst solution and would completely waste the prime years of our core.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 4, 2016 -> 07:06 AM) Northsider, both Coats and Hawkins will have to be protected next off season or be at risk for Rule V. What will Sox do? Are you trolling here? Hawkins is striking out at a 35% clip in his second go around at AA. Unless he pulls a complete 180, no major league team would consider putting him on their major league roster and Sox won't be protecting him. As for Coats, you act as if we haven't put fringe prospects on our 40 man roster before. Take a look at some the names over the past few years and tell me why Coats wouldn't make the cut). Honestly, he'll probably be our 40 man roster within the next 8 hours as I expect to be called up for today's game. We all get you hate tools and focus entirely on traditional stats when evaluating prospects, but you're really reaching here with whatever statement you're trying to make.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 3, 2016 -> 08:37 PM) Wish people would stop saying Hayes deserves a spot. He's hitting .250 in AAA He's putting up a wRC+ of 149 despite that average.

This bench is just inexcusable. Our team can't hit RHP and all four bench guys (Shuck, Sands, Rollins, Navarro) have splits that clearly favor LHP. On top of that, two of those guys have no defensive versatility, while Shuck is a below average defender at the multiple OF spots he can play. What makes it even worse is there are plenty of options at AAA that could likely provide more value. If we're not going to use Sands then why not call up Luery Garcia and use him as a pinch runner & late inning defensive replacement? And why not calling up Coats or Hayes over Shuck? Both have better splits against RHP than Shuck in the minors. Coats is likely a better defender in the OF and Hayes the superior defender at 1B. No doubt neither guy is a sure thing, but at least calling up either of them would be attempting to address a weakness. This team is going nowhere if they continue to rely on guys like Avila, Rollins, & Shuck against RHP.

Lol @ the Robin supporters. DHing Rollins against RHP is ridiculous. And f*** Rick Hahn while I'm at it. If Jerry Sands can't start tonight (at DH no less) while Melky is out, then he has no place on this roster. What a f***ing joke.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 3, 2016 -> 12:07 PM) Terry Francona had Jason Kipnis and his over .800 OPS bunt last night. Had him bunt several times last season as well. Is he an idiot? He had Kipnis bunt in the bottom of the 9th in a tie game with a runner on second and no outs. Of course you bunt there because all you need is one run to win the game. Having Melky bunt in the 7th inning with the score even directly after a three day period in which our bullpen gave up multiple late inning runs is a completely different situation and you know it. Bunting isn't always bad, but it's rare that you're better off giving away an out than going for the big inning.

CarGo for Fulmer would be a huge overpay. If that's the cost, I'm going to Milwaukee to see what it costs to get Lucroy, who would provide an insane upgrade over Avila & Navarro. While I think we have to improve the DH spot, there may be cheaper, more effective ways of doing so than giving up one of our top two prospects for CarGo.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jun 3, 2016 -> 07:33 AM) It wouldn't be that crazy. It's happened before. And sometimes guys skip Triple A and go straight from Double A to the majors. I feel like it's more common with pitchers. I know Beckham skipped AAA, but I can't think of another hitter who did that in our organization.

Huge game as it's the only one in the series we don't have an obvious pitching advantage. Let's f*** these Tigers up! Go Sox!

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 2, 2016 -> 06:58 PM) Cubs' World Series win or Richard Hendricks successfully managing a girlfriend? Which happens first? Are you really making another random Silicon Valley reference? Please tell me I'm completely off-base here.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 2, 2016 -> 03:08 PM) I understand how people would think Coats is a better fit than Sands, and he may be. But it isn't obvious. .366/.411/.522, Avi Garcia's splits in AAA. It hasn't translated to a lot of success. And he did this as a 22-23 year old. Well sure, if you completely ignore defense. Coats can actually play a position and do so well, which is important for a bench player. Sands' entire value comes down to his ability to hit LHP and quite frankly there aren't enough opportunities based on our roster construction to make him a useful player. There is really no argument to make here, even if you assume Coats' offensive production drops off significantly (which is likely will).

7 for 3 trade with the Brewers, with Sox taking on all money. Who says no (other than GreenSox)? Sox Get: Jonathon Lucroy Ryan Braun Will Smith Brewers Get: Carson Fulmer Jordan Guerrero Trey Michalczewski Jacob May (or Adam Engel) Jhoandro Alfaro Carlos Sanchez Matt Davidson New Sox Lineup: 1. Eaton, RF 2. Abreu, 1B 3. Braun, LF 4. Cabrera, DH 5. Frazier, 3B 6. Lucroy, C 7. Lawrie, 2B 8. Jackson, CF 9. Saladino, SS