Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 10:02 PM) I dont think Texas will go for it...like I've been saying they would have to sacrifice lineup players. Plus they actually cant trade Gallo right now. Maybe Boston...but DD is going to play stupid games until the last second We have lineup players we can include. Melky Cabrera would make a lot of sense for them, especially if they were to include Mazara in the deal.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 09:56 PM) I guess the Cubs fans that were outraged they traded for a wife beater are over it once they see triple digits on the gun. Giving my wife s*** about this right now. What a joke that fanbase is.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 09:56 PM) Rangers are now only 2.5 games ahead of the Astros With Texas, Houston, & Boston all competing for two spots, we should be able to get a haul from one of them for Sale or Quintana. One of them will definitely get desperate.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 08:32 PM) Remember back when Ranaudo was the worst fathom had ever seen and Soxfest was sad about him starting? Lol good times Don't forget Dick Allen immediately calling him a "AAAA pitcher" after a tough first inning!

QUOTE (daa84 @ Jul 27, 2016 -> 07:11 AM) i don't even think its a question .320/.432/.483 and 5 HR 8 SBs in 36 games so far Collins & Fulmer are our top two guys. I would say the next four should consist of Burdi, Hansen, Adams, & Call. Right now, I'd probably put Call 5th, just ahead of Burdi but it's close.

At bare minimum, we should trade Robertson & Duke now, as relievers are always worth more at the deadline than in the offseason. We should also seriously explore trading Frazier & Melky. Those two should have some value and it should be much higher now when they can contribute to two playoff runs than just one.

QUOTE (oneofthemikes @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 09:44 PM) BBTN just had a segment about Sale and what it would take to get him. Boston - Said Bogaerts and Betts are totally off limits and that Moncada, Benentendi, Kopech, and Swihart was too much. Said Moncada, Kopech, Swihart, and Eduardo Rodriguez was a fair return for the White Sox. Rangers - Said Mazara, Gallo, Profar, and Dillon Tate was too much and that Mazara, Profar OR Gallo, Luis Ortiz, and Dillon Tate was a fair return. I don't think I'm good with either of the "fair" packages. Especially with some of the trades that have already happened in the past couple weeks. Three and a half years of a top 5 pitcher in baseball on an extremely team friendly deal is going to have to be an unprecedented package of talent in return and I'm not seeing that in the afore mentioned proposals. I'd probably do those deals for Quintana, but definitely not for Sale.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 09:07 PM) The trade deadline tease is upon us. Yup, I bet KW is already on the phone trying to sell teams on all our star minor leaguers!

No walks!

One more out!

Come on Robertson, no walks tonight! Let's get a win and build up that trade value!

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 08:11 PM) Yeah it's 2 1/2 years and just under $30M left for Robertson. Really not unreasonable at all in my opinion. Take out 3 bad outings this year and there really isn't much to complain about Eh, he's walked a ton of guys this year. I'm worried he could have a steep falloff in the next season or two and I'd rather take a prospect or two for him and call it a day.

Saladino is easily my favorite player on this team! Make them pay bud!

QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 08:12 PM) Posted this over in the Trade Winds forums as well, but Sanchez was pulled early in the bottom of the 3rd for Delmonico. Anyone got any ideas the reason behind that? Seems odd to pull him so early. #HugWatch? Injury?

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 08:05 PM) http://mlbfarm.com/index.php?team=CWS&date=2016-07-26 Alex Call 2-4, HR. Stud. He may be a top five prospect in our system at this point. Dude looks legit IMO.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 08:04 PM) He has a year and a half of control too. Robertson? He has two and half years of control right?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 07:57 PM) The Nationals have some guys even besides their top ones who could get a deal done. Yeah, this is Robertson we're talking about. The 5th or 6th prospect in a strong system is good enough as the headliner if we're not eating any salary.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 07:33 PM) Rick Hahn seems like such a nice guy. I don't want to hate him. Not according to Caulfield.

1-0 Sox! Let's get one more here!

That list is pretty depressing when you consider how much some of those prospects have fallen this season. The top half of the list should be a lot more exciting with the 2016 draftees in there. Regardless, I'm still not sure how Buddy Bell has his job. For a while you could argue there was a serious talent issue, but it's clear as night and day that we have an issue on the player development side.

If we don't sell, I'm going to take a break from White Sox baseball until there are changes in the front office. Failure to sell in the ultimate seller's market when we're 6.5 games out of a playoff spot would be one of the most short-sighted decisions in franchise history. I'm trying to remain optimistic that they've finally learned that endless retooling doesn't lead to sustainable success, but with this braintrust & ownership group it's hard not to fear the worst.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 05:24 PM) Wonder if adding Robertson and eating some money would help land both in a Q deal? Red Sox are not paying a premium in prospects for cash savings. And Robertson is nowhere near good enough to warrant an elite prospect being included.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 05:22 PM) I can see only one for Quintana but both for Sale. I agree with this. Don't think they'll give up both for Q.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 03:56 PM) I think that it is a common fallacy among fans to assume the extent that previous trades for given player archetypes "set the market" in the MLB. This is due to two factors: (1) the buyer is who determines the maximum price paid, since the deal isn't made if the seller's demands aren't met, and (2) every time a deal is made, it removes a team from the running in future deals, and the team that just got removed just so happened to be the one that was willing to pay the highest price for the similar player. The Red Sox are not removed from adding a top of the rotation starter because of Pomeranz. In fact, I'd argue it's still their biggest need and one that DD would love to address. Whether they'll end up paying that price remains to be seen, but no way the Sox should accept anything less. Given the lack high-end starters in the league right now, someone will pay a ridiculous price eventually.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 26, 2016 -> 03:44 PM) No chance we'd get both Moncada and Benintendi, but either is perfectly reasonable as a centerpiece if the other pieces are strong. Benintendi is going to be an absolute monster. The contact rate is good, the plate discipline is good, and I've seen the power with my own eyes -- he played our team the year he was drafted, and hit two homers, one of which is the only ball I've ever seen clear the fence, the road, and land in the water outside the Staten Island Ferry. The pop is legit. For Sale? If Chapman & Pomerez are worth top 20 prospects (plus some for Chapman), you're telling me Sale isn't worth two top 10 prospects? I'm definitely not dealing Sale to the Red Sox without both Moncada & Benintendi in the deal. Anything less is a huge undersell IMO.