Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 07:10 PM) Not Coats, I said play Tilson the rest of this season. I think Melky's value is as high as it ever will. See if some team could use a .300 hitter( both a veteran and a lefty) for the stretch run. Tilson should get everyday at-bats in CF regardless of what we do with Melky. Coats is simply the next guy in-line for corner outfield playing time if a spot should open up in the very near future.

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 06:54 PM) No thanks. Coats is not a major leaguer. Probably not, but he's exactly the type of prospect you give 200 at-bats to in a lost season.

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 06:11 PM) Who said the Sox are going into a rebuild right now? If they are, they need to move either Sale or Q between now and March. Guys like Melky and Robertson aren't going to get you enough talent to do it properly. I think it's a lot more likely that the Sox try to retool a little over the next six months and save the major trades for next July. That would be so incredibly risky IMO. First off, your odds of building winner for the 2017 are incredibly low. Second, you're passing on potential value that guys like Melky & Gonzalez could get you now. Finally, you're gambling that your prized assets don't get hurt between now and next July. Why take that risk? This organization needs to be smart for once and blow things up between now and the offseason.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 06:08 PM) You shouldn't be worrying about that going into the beginning of a rebuild. They need to assemble as much young talent as possible and figure out how to piece it together later. Yup, absolutely no reason not to deal Melky and give Coats a two month trial in LF.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 05:37 PM) 3 outs away from such a scenario. And Street just pulled a Robertson.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 05:56 PM) Reasonable looking prospect too. If Gonzalez and Shields are still here Tuesday we riot. I agree, short of a crazy Sale or Quintana trade. And even then, Shields should at least be gone.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 05:54 PM) Quintana, Sale deals still in play for White Sox https://t.co/VPtpZKe3tI via @mlb https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/759884479313960960 I'll take this as a positive.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 05:03 PM) If the Red Sox lose in Anaheim, they will be tied with the Tigers for the second wildcard. Only ahead by a percentage point. 3 outs away from such a scenario.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 05:24 PM) Melky is better than Jay Bruce. Can't believe teams that want Bruce aren't calling about Melky who is a better pure hitter and is a switch hitter. Doesn't have his power but makes up for it with contract, average and OBP. Color me shocked Yeah, I'd be shocked if teams with OF needs weren't calling us about Melky. He'd actually be a perfect fit for Texas where he could DH and play a little OF. The question is whether or not Melky is even available. If you're going for it in 2017, you pretty much have to keep him. Like I said previously, if he's not dealt, it's probably an indication of our plans for next year.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 05:11 PM) I'm cautiously optimistic. I think by tomorrow, the availability and affordability of both Sale and Quintana will be too much for one of these playoff-bound teams to pass up, and they will, in fact, meet the steep demands the Sox have out there right now. I wish I could be this optimistic. That Duke trade has me spooked.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 05:01 PM) Almost leads me to believe Melky isn't on the block or Hahn is expecting a #1 prospect in return. He's done nothing but make good solid contact since June of last year. Obviously not good in the field, but I wouldn't call him a burden either. He'd fit great into the top 6 of the lineup for any playoff team. I will say this, if Hahn doesn't move Melky between now and tomorrow, it strongly supports the idea they'll be going for it in 2017.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 04:57 PM) It's going to be glorious. Standing pat. Robin Ventura getting an extension. Various IF and OF pieces traded for. Talk about high expectations with playoffs in mind and missing them. Then 1 year less on Sale and Q's contracts. What really needs to happen is Hahn needs to be fired and a new GM needs to be brought in to rebuild. I'll be honest, I will never abandon the White Sox. They will always be my passion, first and foremost. Having said that, if they try retooling it again, I'll be taking a long f***ing break. I won't be supporting this team with my money or time until changes are made. And I'm fully aware that will have no impact on their decision-making, but I can't sit by year after year as this organization continues to f***-up and continue to support this product. I really hope I'm wrong and they make some big trades by tomorrow or at the very least in the offseason. Going for it once again in 2017 is a big f*** you to our entire fanbase.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 04:44 PM) See I dont think they are willing to give up either of the two top prospects for Q. I think if you want one of them(Your only getting 1) you need to give up Sale. Then you simply can't do a deal with them. Right now, I'm thinking the Yankees may be our best match. They desperately need another starter and have a ton of money coming off the books over the next couple years, which means they can simply spend to fill a lot of their positional holes. I think they may be more motivated than anyone to get a cost-controlled ace and may be willing to do something stupid right now. Not sure if the Red Sox are just posturing, but they're acting as if they're not willing to play ball for Sale. Maybe a nice Yankees offer would spur their interest a bit.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 03:19 PM) Hahn probably wants to rebuild. We know jerry doesnt and kenny is always going for it. Kinda fighting a up hill battle for hahn If that's all true, then Hahn should consider resigning, because his bosses are setting him up for failure.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 03:11 PM) Yes, they are going to blow it. I know there's still time but it would be so unlike us to make big trades. Maybe a Robertson one but that's all. Hope I'm wrong. Starting to feel this way as well. Have a bad feeling we'll get a minor league catcher for Robertson and Hahn/KW will argue that said player and Tilson can be everyday regulars. Would be such a Hahn/KW plan two make two or three smaller moves and hope the players acquired can immediately plug holes.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 03:10 PM) This. If we don't trade them, we didn't get a good enough haul. Or they simply are unrealistic with their demands. The reality is we'll never know. However, the rest of the moves they make should speak volumes. If they only make a couple smaller deals and then try to convince us that guys like Tilson can fill our holes, I'll assume they were always prepared for more retooling BS and were never serious about dealing Sale or Quintana.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 03:06 PM) I would be really curious to see what is actually being offered before really judging whether the Sox screwed this up or not. Without knowing what was on the table, it is all assumptions. No doubt, but all the insiders are implying we're not very serious about dealing Sale. That message is a bit worrisome IMO.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 03:00 PM) But again that comes down from jerry not hahn or kw choices or whoever Comes from both. Obviously Reinsdorf has ultimate say, but it's up to Hahn & KW to convince him that going for it in 2017 in a foolish strategy.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 02:59 PM) Yes but not alot of teams has what it takes to acquire sale or Quintana. Going to be most likey same teams now that are in contention and the off season. Boston, texas, dodgers and now the yankees are probablya few of the teams that have resources to acquire sale or q. Not sure really any other teams that can. That's my view as well. The teams that would want Sale and have the means to acquire him are in the playoff hunt right now. Not sure waiting until the offseason is going to benefit us with him.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 02:54 PM) Sucks we don't have the resources to bring in other good relievers and offensive pieces. We just traded for a 4th OF type and he was ranked as our 5th best prospect by MLB.com. That should be a wake up call to everyone that this organization doesn't have the resources needed to put together a winning team anytime soon. We need to blow it up whether or not Hahn & KW are in charge or not.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 02:49 PM) I have come around to wanting to stand pat. Whereas I thought even a poor front office could get a great return for Sale or Q, I found out that was false. I would prefer we try this with a new group leading it. Zero confidence vote. Problem is this front office is going nowhere. Typically when your GM comes out and says the team he put together is "mired in mediocrity" that should be a cue to ownership that a change should be made here. Not gonna happen here though. If we don't rebuild with Hahn & KW, then we'll certainly reload with them.

QUOTE (daggins @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 02:43 PM) Jayson Stark - Based on what i've heard, "less than 5% chance" Sale is moved. "More curious than serious". Looks like Charlie Tilson could be our big addition! Only half kidding.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 31, 2016 -> 02:36 PM) Melky is a nice all around player. Would be a complimentary player for a team. Bruce is a run producing bat that can help put you over. Unfortunately hes not a good fielder. I would think melky would have interest. Hes been the most consistent hitter for the sox. Jay Bruce has a significant edge in power, but is far worse at contact and getting on-base. They'll fairly close as hitters IMO. However, Bruce has actually been worse defensively. If I were a GM, I would definitely prefer Melky over Bruce but that's just me.

Holy f*** that was crushed.

Why is Bruce getting all this buzz while there's been basically nothing on Melky? Seems like Cabrera is arguably the better player, surprised there haven't been more rumors on him.