Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 09:35 AM) Peter Gammons‏ @pgammo Following Scott Lauber's story, word around Chisox Friday was that they had scouts at every Red Sox farm games last night Honestly, it's almost too quiet on the Boston-Sale front, makes me think there could be serious discussions happening. I can't think of a more perfect pairing for a trade than our two teams. They need a top of the rotation starter and we need positional prospects. This tweet makes me cautiously optimistic. Also, I really feel like the Yankees could be a dark horse for Sale depending on what they get back in a potential Miller trade. Right now, they have some interesting pieces, but not the headliner you'd need in a Sale trade. If they got a guy like Giolito in return for Miller, suddenly they become a feasible trade partner. Giolito, Torres or Mateo, Sanchez, & Judge is a very solid starting point. The Yankees being a serious option for Sale might even get the Red Sox to up the ante.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 08:42 AM) Boston wants a World Series this year especially w Ortiz exiting and Shields could be that piece to put them over the top. Dude, just stop. James Shields is bad and isn't putting any team over the top, let the alone the Red Sox who need a top of the rotation and not a fringe back-end guy. And just because the Red Sox don't have an obvious place for him right now (3B & LF are options down the road), doesn't mean they will give up Moncada for pennies on the dollar. The will only move him if they're getting an elite player in return such as Chris Sale.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jul 30, 2016 -> 08:08 AM) I wonder if he could be had for a Shields + Fulmer right now. Gives Boston pitching now and for the future w/o having to unload a lot of prospects. Did you honestly just propose the #1 prospect in baseball for Shields & Fulmer? That has to be one the most ridiculous trade proposals I have ever seen on this board. You're undervaluation of Moncada is quite humorous.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 10:54 PM) I miss Myles Jaye. ? Myles Jaye was traded for Will Lamb.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 10:53 PM) This game is going to end in perfect time for me to watch the grand opening of Tesla's Gigafactory livestream. I have no idea what the f*** any of this means.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 10:52 PM) 1B still involves defense and that's not there. His defense isn't the problem, it's his lack of hitting this year. The DH spot would be an option if he was 2015 Abreu.

He'll either get a double play or allow a grand slam.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 10:50 PM) He's a typical KW guy. He can hit but the rest is s***. ? He's a 1B/DH, what the hell else is he supposed to do?

Kahnle about to lose this one for us.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 10:45 PM) Matters how he finishe and what he could get in arbitration. If he can get 15 million or so, you look to trade him after this season. Why? Money won't be an issue and our best bet is for him rebounding next year.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 10:36 PM) Do they have to offer him arbitration after this year if he accepts that part of his contract? He looks finished Are you actually suggesting you wouldn't offer arbitration if you could???

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 09:25 PM) Could you imagine getting 5-6 good to great bats for Sale and Quintana? It's gotta be tempting. It's not only tempting, it the right thing to do. How can we honestly fix this mess? Look at how many holes we have in our lineup right now and then look at the state of our minor league system. The only potential impact hitter in the system that will be ready anytime soon is Collins. We have a few other interesting guys, but they are far from sure things of being even average regulars at the major league level. It's finally time to stop this re-tooling nonsense and attempt to build a team from the ground-up.

Blow this team up. This offense can not be salvaged anytime soon.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 08:29 PM) Davidson was the same player at the same age. Both have tremendous power and both K way too much to make that power of value. Gallo has 80 grade power. He's on a different planet in terms of potential than Davidson.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 08:20 PM) He can't headline a deal for either of our SPs. The sox are smart enough that's why there's the Mazara talk. He can't headline a deal, sure, but he's very attractive IMO as the second piece, especially if you get Brinson back too.

QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 08:19 PM) Sale for Mazara, Profar, Ortiz and Tate. Positively do not want Gallo or Brinson. That's a horrible deal. Profar makes no sense for us at all due his limited control.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 08:18 PM) No interest in Gallo, we already have a guy with that skill set in Matt Davidson. Gallo has so much more potential than Davidson it's not even funny.

Have they shown Frazier at all in the dugout?

If Texas wants Sale, then we need a package built around Mazara, Gallo, & Brinson. That may not be as sexy as a potential Red Sox trade with Moncada and/or Benintendi, but it's still a ton of positional talent to build around going forward. We'd probably have to include Melky and I'd fully expect some lesser prospects included as well, but I think there's a framework that works for both teams. Plus it allows them to keep Profar, who fills their short-term better than our long-term ones.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 08:52 AM) I think we're going to tackle the Call vs Fisher debate in that Q&A post. But I'll just say a few basic things for now. First, in case you think we're crazy, look at the list Jim Callis (MLB Pipeline) put out - they have Fisher higher (8) and Call lower (to 24) than we do. So apparently they're even more absurd. Also, just out of curiosity, what makes people think Call is so clearly better than Fisher? If you're looking at rookie league numbers for college graduates, for a month, those should have very little bearing. If you're looking at college results, Fisher was far more impressive in a stronger league. So I guess what I'm asking is, what makes people think Call is better than Fisher? Again, not trying to be a dick. I think you guys do an incredible job and I love these lists. I just don't agree with the Call ranking. First, I put huge stock in Hostetler's assessment of Call (from raBBit's interview) and he raved about the kid. His signing bonus reflects that the Sox don't view him as reach and I believe that. Also, when it comes to the comparison vs Fisher, Call provides defensive value. Until Fisher proves he can play a position, his value is somewhat limited. Right now, Call should be hands down the higher rated prospect IMO.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 08:16 AM) This is really going to show how bad the market is. Rumor has it there's a major league piece going back to the Padres. If the Sox don't take advantage of this to some extent, then f*** them. If you don't want to deal Sale or Quintana right now, fine, but you better deal Gonzalez and/or Shields. What really sucks is other sellers are moving quickly so secondary guys like Miguel & James may not have the markets they could have. Really worried Hahn & KW will blow this.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 29, 2016 -> 07:52 AM) Sources: The Marlins, who have been looking for rotation depth, have an agreement in place to acquire Padres right-hander Andrew Cashner. https://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/758996278927695872 Getting Josh Naylor in the deal. What the f*** are Hahn & KW doing.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 11:14 PM) Exactly. They need to trade either Q or Sale (preferably) to improve this ballclub. We can act like they don't, but we also know there are no FA or realistic trade options (with our thin system) to help the 2017 team. It's really frustrating that even when we're intent on selling we still can't have it work in our favor. Hahn should be trying every damn selling tactic he can to unload some of these players. It's unacceptable otherwise because the entire course of our future depends on it. Standing pat or unloading a player like Robertson for a Hector Molina type wont get it done either In all reality we need to blow this team the f*** up. This offense is a complete joke and there is nothing on the horizon to make it much better anytime soon. Between now and this offseason, we need to trade Sale, Quintana, Gonzalez, Shields, Robertson, Duke, Frazier, Lawrie, & Melky. Recoup as many assets as possible. Stockpile draft picks the next two years and hope to be competitive in 2019, when there will be some actual free agents available to plug holes. To me, there is no other alternative. This team as currently constructed is broken and there is limited hope to fix it before Sale hits free agency. Do the smart thing for once and sell, sell, sell.

I appreciate and respect all the Future Sox writers, but Call being ranked 15th is absurd. Behind Fisher? What? Also, Micker needs to be bumped down a bit until he shows some baseball ability. And no Delmonico in the top 30? I'm not sure why he was excluded.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 28, 2016 -> 07:12 AM) Just saw sox fans talking about this on Twitter. Well use this as a Frazier thread for any rumors surrounding him. What do you think you'd want in return from the Mets? Link to these tweets?