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I’ll be honest, upon further review, I actually believe the Yankees are a much better trade partner for us. I’d love to get Kjerstad but just not in love with the next tier of Orioles prospects (not suggesting they are bad, but I’m worried they are a bit overrated). Yankees can offer pitching in addition to a multi-faceted OF prospect. And if you really want a middle IF prospect, I’d much rather roll the dice on Arias or Lombard than go with a near 26 year old Ortiz or a one dimensional Norby. Probably better for both sides if we deal with the Yankees and let the Orioles give up Mayo+ for Miller or Woo.

This is an absolutely absurd statement

I think Getz will want two pieces that can help this year…maybe not by OD but before the end of the season. As much as I hate to place much faith in Jerry, I don’t think he’s going to let us truly rebuild. That means getting a couple major league pieces for Cease and augmenting those and our other prospects / core players with some B & C tier free agents next off-season.

For reference, Fangraphs has released their updated Yankees top prospect list for 2024. Below is their top 10 and how it compares to BA’s: Spencer Jones, CF (55 FV) (BA #2) Austin Wells, C (50 FV) (BA #6) Jason Dominguez, CF (50 FV) (BA #1) Roderick Arias, SS (50 FV) (BA #5) Chase Hampton, RHP (50 FV) (BA #4) Will Warren, RHP (50 FV) (BA #10) George Lombard, SS (45+ FV) (BA #9) Henry Lalane, LHP (45 FV) (BA #8) Brando Mayea, CF (45 FV) (unranked) Jorbit Vivas, 2B (45 FV) (unranked) Not radically different outside of Everson Pereira who is 3rd on BA’s latest top 10 but 17th on Longenhagen’s list. The grades on him vary dramatically with the hit tool being the discrepancy at a 45 vs. 30. While I normally lean towards BA when it comes to big variances like this, it’s hard to ignore the atrocious K rates Pereira has put up throughout his minor league career.

How do you guys feel about Dominguez vs. Kjerstad specifically?

Alright, which offer would people prefer: NYY: Dominguez, Hampton, Lombard BAL: Kjerstad, Ortiz, Povich

Getz is simply acquiring a bunch of cheap placeholders and forcing prospects to earn their spots. Obviously there is no intention of competing this year and Jerry is very clearly trying to recoup his losses from last year.

What the hell do you put on your crab cakes then? But yes, 100% joking about that proposal and obviously Gavin Sheets makes zero sense you guys.

Because Sheets has a mean remoulade recipe and Elias has a known affinity for crab cakes ever since coming over to Baltimore. Seems like it’s destiny for this pairing to finally materialize.

Is it really suggesting that or do you guys simply have less org guys with below average stuff filling out rosters? Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather be at the top of that list than the bottom but not sure any real conclusions can be drawn from it without the underlying player specific details.

@Sports Guy - What conclusions are you gathering from this Statcast data point?

I think they could be…but I do like the an old fashioned AL East bidding war where Elias ultimately accepts defeat and gives up Basallo & Mayo for Cease and Gavin “The Prince of Maryland” Sheets.

I think most teams will be hesitant to give Blake Snell $200M+. I think it takes a special kind of desperation like with the Angels losing Ohtani and the Giants being unable to convince anyone from the US to take their money.

I think Boston is out of money for reasons unknown and are unlikely to add Snell or Montgomery. But yes, the Angels snagging Snell would be the best outcome for us followed by the Giants.

Boras begging for a bigger market for Snell doesn’t really bother us.

We always needed two OFs to get Sheets out of the outfield. This is one of those guys and this helps prevent Romy from automatically making the roster. As a minor league deal, this move is fine to fill the 4th OF role. We still need to find a RF and someone worth giving those innings. If they plan to platoon Phillips out there for “defense” then this is a really bad move.

They have said player in Yoelqui Cespedes, but he lacks leadership and Royals experience unfortunately

My valuations have all been data driven with very clear assumptions. I have shared my thinking with your board and no one has disputed anything other than not liking the proposed price. I think you guys want to believe you have some magical treasure chest of prospects that no one else possesses. If your top three are truly off limits, then what you have to offer can be matched.

How do you know Dominguez is not on the board?

Yankees match up better with us than the Orioles if an emphasis on pitching is true. Realistically one of their top OF prospects + two arms (or one arm plus something else) seems very doable without impacting the Yankees near-term outlook all that much.

The good thing about free speech is Bob Nightengale is allowed to present a clearly unneeded, one-sided story from Omar’s corrupt perspective while at the same time we can call out Bob for being morally bankrupt for publishing in the first place.

Why would we take guys the Yankees soured on? It sounds Ike Pereira has a LF only profile and incredibly questionable hit tool. How does that make any sense for us?

Where are you hearing this?

I’m suddenly a big Jim Duquette fan.

I really don’t those guys have that much value. Not saying they are bad players, but who is giving up a controllable arm for them plus lesser prospects?